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For the gurus: Can a transfer qb bring plays with him?
Posted on 8/28/18 at 10:42 am
Posted on 8/28/18 at 10:42 am
I don’t know how it works, having only played up to high school. If I were rolling out a new offense like Ensminger and had a junior transfer coming from a really good offfensive system, I would want to know a few of his favorite plays to see if I could incorporate them into my offense (assuming the blocking scheme wasn’t completely different). If the other players could learn 5-7 plays well enough to call them in a game, they could pull them out in critical situations and Burrow would have 3 years of experience vs a few weeks.
Is this something that is done, or is it just “forget your old offense and learn our system”?
Is this something that is done, or is it just “forget your old offense and learn our system”?
Posted on 8/28/18 at 10:44 am to olgoi khorkhoi
I'm sure that would go over well.
New kid: "Hey coach, I have this notebook with some banger plays I'd like you take a look at."
Coach: "STFU and start stretching."
New kid: "Hey coach, I have this notebook with some banger plays I'd like you take a look at."
Coach: "STFU and start stretching."
Posted on 8/28/18 at 10:45 am to olgoi khorkhoi
Terminology would likely be different but the plays the same. I'm sure Coach E has done this with Burrow especially with RPO's.
Posted on 8/28/18 at 10:45 am to olgoi khorkhoi
Why are you down voting this? Legit question or is that against the Orgeron narrative?
Posted on 8/28/18 at 10:46 am to olgoi khorkhoi
I would assume a good OC would do something like that, generically anyway.
But i'm not sure if a transfer has to sign a non-disclosure or something like that whereas not to share exact info/plays, etc.
But i'm not sure if a transfer has to sign a non-disclosure or something like that whereas not to share exact info/plays, etc.
Posted on 8/28/18 at 10:47 am to olgoi khorkhoi
This guy would tell you to go the frick home.
Posted on 8/28/18 at 10:47 am to olgoi khorkhoi
I guess the ones who downvoted feel like we're to good to run anything from OSU playbook
Posted on 8/28/18 at 10:48 am to olgoi khorkhoi
Coaches will try and incorporate some of what the kid has learned at his previous school, if they understand that offense and stuff. Or at least try and relate it to the offense they wanna run at the new school so the player can be familiar with reads and route combinations and all that.
This post was edited on 8/28/18 at 10:59 am
Posted on 8/28/18 at 10:49 am to olgoi khorkhoi
Reminds me of Malik Henry. Because in case you didn't know, he was "around one of the greatest coaches of all time" and he knows better than all of his current coaches.
Posted on 8/28/18 at 10:50 am to sicboy
I didn’t really say the QB should be suggesting plays, did I? I said if I was E, I’d be curious about his favorite handful of plays because he’s a smart guy, so they’re probably well-designed and he’d be very comfortable with the reads on those plays.
I’m going to start a mailing list for the Rant and send out some elementary school readers.
I’m going to start a mailing list for the Rant and send out some elementary school readers.
Posted on 8/28/18 at 10:51 am to olgoi khorkhoi
any coach or player can bring any plays. Les Miles brought all of his plays over from the 70's.
Posted on 8/28/18 at 10:51 am to olgoi khorkhoi
This is quite possibly the dumbest thread I've seen this week, and that's saying something.
Posted on 8/28/18 at 10:52 am to olgoi khorkhoi
Have an upvote. There can't possibly be a non-disclosure agreement. The games are on TV. I could run any play they run if I wanted too. It's not like a Trademark. There is ZERO chance JB and CSE haven't discussed this. There is ZERO chance CSE hasn't reviewed OSU game film extensively.
Great thought. I'll take a downvote or two now.
Great thought. I'll take a downvote or two now.
Posted on 8/28/18 at 10:57 am to kkv75
quote:
Why are you down voting this?
Because everyone on this board is an offensive coordinator
Posted on 8/28/18 at 11:01 am to olgoi khorkhoi
I'm sure he does/did.
I also have no doubt that the similarity between the actual plays run were of no shock.
One thing that will, always, be different is timing. How fast does back get to mesh point, etc.
And one thing many discount, that can be very helpful is the playcalls, namely how they are communicated. Some teams run players in and out (very few in P5 anymore), most signal from sideline, with or without dummy calls. Some signal formation and play separately with a game-coordinator (e.g. "passing game coordinator") getting people ready. Every team has their system of who signals what and especially who gets the substitutions ready to enter.
tOSU uses placards for the most part; probably just either play or formation with signals from OC for the other. The reason you see 2 (or more) placards may be dummy calls, or it requires 2 (or more) calls for a personnel grouping (e.g., one is for OL, one is for backs/WRs).
What Burrow, or any transfer, could possibly bring to the table is a more efficient way of communicating formations and plays.
I also have no doubt that the similarity between the actual plays run were of no shock.
One thing that will, always, be different is timing. How fast does back get to mesh point, etc.
And one thing many discount, that can be very helpful is the playcalls, namely how they are communicated. Some teams run players in and out (very few in P5 anymore), most signal from sideline, with or without dummy calls. Some signal formation and play separately with a game-coordinator (e.g. "passing game coordinator") getting people ready. Every team has their system of who signals what and especially who gets the substitutions ready to enter.
tOSU uses placards for the most part; probably just either play or formation with signals from OC for the other. The reason you see 2 (or more) placards may be dummy calls, or it requires 2 (or more) calls for a personnel grouping (e.g., one is for OL, one is for backs/WRs).
What Burrow, or any transfer, could possibly bring to the table is a more efficient way of communicating formations and plays.
Posted on 8/28/18 at 11:01 am to olgoi khorkhoi
Excellent question! If you are a think outside the box OC, you'd definitely determine Burrow's favorite 10 plays from Ohio State's offense and incorporate them into your playbook now that he is the starter. Hopefully our OC thinks outside the box as a way of performing his job.
Posted on 8/28/18 at 11:04 am to JAB528
quote:
This is quite possibly the dumbest thread I've seen this week, and that's saying something.
There is some dumb in here, but it's not the thread.
Posted on 8/28/18 at 11:07 am to olgoi khorkhoi
They discussed a lot of strategy when he visited and they spent 4 hours n film room. They looked at similarities in E’s offense and what JB had been doing
Posted on 8/28/18 at 11:09 am to TigerFanFromBama
Yeah because the BIG 12 Playbooks are known for putting up points against DEFENSES???
Ohhhh wait,
You assumed they played defense in the big12...
I get it now!!!!
FYI OSU would get there assess waxed in the SEC and their offense would look as Mediocre as ours!
On a Final Note: Wasn't Les Miles the Head Coach at OSU, and believe it or not, he was KNOWN FOR BEING AN OFFENSIVE GENIUS in the Big 12..... Suckaaaaa
Ohhhh wait,
You assumed they played defense in the big12...
I get it now!!!!
FYI OSU would get there assess waxed in the SEC and their offense would look as Mediocre as ours!
On a Final Note: Wasn't Les Miles the Head Coach at OSU, and believe it or not, he was KNOWN FOR BEING AN OFFENSIVE GENIUS in the Big 12..... Suckaaaaa
Posted on 8/28/18 at 11:09 am to olgoi khorkhoi
As soon as he got here I bet they picked his brain and he offered his opinions on different packages. That’s part of film study.
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