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re: For the Coach O denouncers, what does he realistically need to do (W/L) to win you back?
Posted on 8/13/18 at 2:48 pm to SammyTiger
Posted on 8/13/18 at 2:48 pm to SammyTiger
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What I love about the "they'll hate him even is he beats bama and wins a championship" argument is
1. He hasn't come close to doing the things they ever say
No he hasn't, Not even close.
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2. They're the same people who shite on Miles won won a NC AND beat bama before.
Exactly! That's the crazy part of it to me. Miles took shite each and every year, no matter what the teams record was. From 8-5 seasons to 13-1 seasons and everything in between. Didn't matter if we won a NC or finished fifth in the West.
Now, those same people are crying like little school girls cause they think o isn't being treated right.
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Posted on 8/13/18 at 2:49 pm to NawlinsTiger9
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The bulk of my fanhood/formative years came during the Les era, so it just feels weird approaching a season without championship expectations.
Miles proved even an average coach can come into an already established LSU program and have this type of success.
Why should LSU simply settle for less? Because they once were crap? They have so many advantages, #1 recruiting grounds/talent and no major college threat in the same state. They also have a big time NFL pedigree atm.
Miles did run a tremendous program.
Posted on 8/13/18 at 2:52 pm to Topwater Trout
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its been almost 2 years...everyone pretty much agrees he was a bad hire.
It's not even that he's a bad hire....it's that he's a completely unproven one AND THEN people want to treat him like he was a normal, high expectation, high flexibility hire. He very specifically isn't that.
His leash should be extremely short and the Canada situation, with the consequential Ensminger promotion, should throw up copious amounts of red flags. And the media does catch on, mostly, but reject to actually printing the news story: "Alleva is a close to incompetent AD who made a program defining blunder." But even they still treat O like any other ole hire.
Posted on 8/13/18 at 2:54 pm to Freauxzen
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It's not even that he's a bad hire....it's that he's a completely unproven one AND THEN people want to treat him like he was a normal, high expectation, high flexibility hire. He very specifically isn't that.
That's what gets me.
"Oh yeah well he was a bad hire but let's afford him all of the concessions that someone that actually deserved the job should get." It's bullshite.
Posted on 8/13/18 at 2:58 pm to Goldrush25
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"Oh yeah well he was a bad hire but let's afford him all of the concessions that someone that actually deserved the job should get." It's bullshite.
Exactly.
Posted on 8/13/18 at 2:59 pm to Freauxzen
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His leash should be extremely short
should have been, which was my one comfort.....then months later we found out Alleva gave the man a fricking nice sized buyout. I didn't think it was possible to think any less of Joe until that news dropped.
Posted on 8/13/18 at 3:00 pm to RedTigerRulz
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he sorta rebounded
He didn't rebound. We started 3-2 and finished up going 3-2. If anything we limped home with our worse record since 2014 and our worse total offense since 2014.
It was one win better than the poorest team performance we have had in the last seventeen years.
Yeah, we coming!
Posted on 8/13/18 at 3:01 pm to LSU Groupee
quote:It was 2017... that's just 2 years removed.
2014 and our worse total offense since 2014.
Posted on 8/13/18 at 3:06 pm to ell_13
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It was 2017... that's just 2 years remove
2015, 2016, 2017 adds up to three where I went to school.
Are you a ULL grad?
Posted on 8/13/18 at 3:11 pm to justice
Saban was 8 and 4. Then 10 and 3. Then 8 and 5.
Orgeron was 6 and 2. Then 9 and 4. Now what. Looks pretty even to me.
Orgeron was 6 and 2. Then 9 and 4. Now what. Looks pretty even to me.
Posted on 8/13/18 at 3:21 pm to Goldrush25
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"Oh yeah well he was a bad hire but let's afford him all of the concessions that someone that actually deserved the job should get." It's bullshite.
not nearly as frustrating as people suddenly being concerned with finances or optics.
"you absolutely CANNOT, I repeat, CANNOT fire O after this season. Can you imagine how bad that would look if LSU fired its head coach and was trying to hire someone while paying two other head caoches?!?!"
yeah, because college football coaches have shown that they care about integrity.
Posted on 8/13/18 at 3:21 pm to mhc4tigers
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Saban was 8 and 4. Then 10 and 3. Then 8 and 5.
Orgeron was 6 and 2. Then 9 and 4. Now what. Looks pretty even to me.
do we need to break down why this comparison is awful or can we just call you a dumbass and move on?
Posted on 8/13/18 at 3:21 pm to BilJ
no I want him to come defend this.
Posted on 8/13/18 at 3:23 pm to Dave England
He won’t, because people who make Saban comparisons always do so in a vacuum and ignore the state of the program when they took over.
This post was edited on 8/13/18 at 3:25 pm
Posted on 8/13/18 at 3:26 pm to LSU Groupee
quote:Separated by 2 seasons between them. You didn't understand that point? Did you graduate high school?
2015, 2016, 2017 adds up to three where I went to school.
Are you a ULL grad?
Posted on 8/13/18 at 3:37 pm to TigerLunatik
Would 9-4 losing to the 4 best teams on the schedule be a huge accomplishment?
Would beating Miss St, Florida and A&M really make that a good season?
I like Mullen by Florida has a dearth of talent on Offense. A&M doesn’t have a good defense or a QB. And I think MSU takes a step back with the new coach.
I think The DC is a downgrade too.
Would beating Miss St, Florida and A&M really make that a good season?
I like Mullen by Florida has a dearth of talent on Offense. A&M doesn’t have a good defense or a QB. And I think MSU takes a step back with the new coach.
I think The DC is a downgrade too.
Posted on 8/13/18 at 3:44 pm to SammyTiger
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Would 9-4 losing to the 4 best teams on the schedule be a huge accomplishment?
no but since they've built the narrative that this is the hardest schedule in the history of football, 9-4 will be enough to get O to year 3. Clearly, that's enough for some in this thread.
Posted on 8/13/18 at 4:05 pm to ell_13
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Separated by 2 seasons between the
It was three full seasons total and that's the point.
ULL is in your history.
Posted on 8/13/18 at 4:17 pm to LSU Groupee
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finished up going 3-2.
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finished up going 3-2.
We finished 6-2 last 8 games.....love the way you narrowed it to the last five to fit your agenda a-hole.
Posted on 8/13/18 at 4:18 pm to BilJ
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a 5-6 loss season
Grounds for immediate dismissal.
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