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Posted on 6/3/14 at 11:20 am to PurpleAndGold86
PM made a mistake with the way he handled the pitching starting in the 7th inning and he would probably be the first to admit it.
Posted on 6/3/14 at 11:24 am to TigerCub
His mistake was leaving in McCune too long. Broussard for three innings was definitely NOT a mistake.
Posted on 6/3/14 at 11:27 am to PurpleAndGold86
I bet if you asked him he would tell you he should have left Bouman in.
Posted on 6/3/14 at 11:31 am to Baloo
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Completely agree. It's not innings, it's the number of pitches. And the fact he was in total control. You want to have him on a short leash? Fine. Have Fury up in the pen at the first sign of trouble.
But there was no trouble yet, and that move was just looking for it. Then he leaves McCune in during the 8th. Not just to start the inning, but after he loaded the bases. Heck, not even then, not until after he gave up a 2-RBI single.
He removes Bouman on the grounds of hypothetical trouble, but leaves McCune in during actual trouble? And waits until its at disaster levels to pull him?
This.
And, then I'll add that once we are facing a situation with 2 on in a 4-2 game with 2 outs, he went to Fury instead of Broussard. That makes no sense.
If you are willing to win or lose with Broussard in that game (obviously he was willing to do that given that he pitched him in a tie game) then the time to have him ready was in the top of the 8th in case trouble happened.
How we ended up with Fury pitching in that situation is beyond me. And, he kind of did it again on Monday when he went to Domingue instead of Fury in a tough spot.
Posted on 6/3/14 at 11:32 am to TigerCub
He already said "we couldn't ask any more of him" and "out bullpen has been performing so well as of late" on the decision to pull Bouman.
Posted on 6/3/14 at 11:43 am to PurpleAndGold86
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You trust your preparation and game plan at that point.
No. So if bouman gets lit up for 10 runs over the first 3 innings you still let.him go 2-3 more? Because that was the game plan right.
Posted on 6/3/14 at 11:46 am to dgnx6
Agreed. Because game plans always work. Just ask Les (1/9).
Posted on 6/3/14 at 11:58 am to PurpleAndGold86
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Was, without and ounce of doubt, the right thing to do.
Just one inning too late.
Posted on 6/3/14 at 12:11 pm to Mickey Goldmill
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He already said "we couldn't ask any more of him" and "out bullpen has been performing so well as of late" on the decision to pull Bouman.
At only 62 pitches and cruising they could have asked plenty more of bouman. Fact is CPM over analyzed and pulled him. Not because bouman was tired but because CPM was scared that bouman MIGHT give up a run or two.
Posted on 6/3/14 at 12:17 pm to RB10
Yes he was worried about extending a guy who had no experience going that deep into a game and in such a pressure situation.
It's not that unreasonable of a decision.
It's not that unreasonable of a decision.
Posted on 6/3/14 at 12:21 pm to Mickey Goldmill
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It's not that unreasonable of a decision.
I agree with this now. I don't think it was the right move but there are definitely arguments for doing it. However, COM saying they could ask nothing more of bouman is bullshite. I bet if you asked bouman he would say he had AT LEAST one more inning in him.
Posted on 6/3/14 at 12:22 pm to RB10
Look I'll agree that if it were me, I would have probably extended him another inning. CPM thought that was enough with the way our bullpen has been. It didn't work. Nobody knew for a fact that it would fall apart like that.
Posted on 6/3/14 at 12:25 pm to Mickey Goldmill
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He already said "we couldn't ask any more of him"
Because he'd never trusted him entering the game to give them any more. I would've definitely asked more of him.
Posted on 6/3/14 at 12:33 pm to Mickey Goldmill
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Yes he was worried about extending a guy who had no experience going that deep into a game and in such a pressure situation.
It's not that unreasonable of a decision.
This is such a fricking stupid comment that you keep making thread after thread. It was a stupid move.
Posted on 6/3/14 at 12:34 pm to Tigerdew
No it wasn't. It didn't work out but it wasn't a baseless or dumb move. He had legit reasons to make the move.
Posted on 6/3/14 at 12:34 pm to Mickey Goldmill
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Nobody knew for a fact that it would fall apart like that.
go read the in game posts re: bringing in mccune
Posted on 6/3/14 at 12:39 pm to Mickey Goldmill
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He had legit reasons to make the move.
i'm sure his gameplan was "bouman- 6 innings" and just went with that.
bouman had gas in the tank and was doing great. between 6 and 7th inning, start warming up a guy just in case bouman gets in trouble. he was just cruising right along.
mainieri sabotaged the season with his overmanagement.
Posted on 6/3/14 at 12:48 pm to Mickey Goldmill
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No it wasn't. It didn't work out but it wasn't a baseless or dumb move. He had legit reasons to make the move.
I wonder how many other coaches would've made the same move?
Posted on 6/3/14 at 12:55 pm to Tigerdew
Mainieri=Analysis Paralysis
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