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re: For all those butthurt about this CA bill

Posted on 10/3/19 at 3:47 pm to
Posted by CalRipkenJr
Denham Springs
Member since Jan 2007
1576 posts
Posted on 10/3/19 at 3:47 pm to
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YOU are naive if you think this doesn’t get completely out of hand. Money has always and will always cause people to do stupid shite.


Exactly, it has FAR reaching potential impact! As it stands now no athletes should be receiving money so when they do it's questioned. If it's all of the sudden okay to receive money for your "NIL" how long before that money comes with the caveat that you shave points or take a dive? The thing is, now there wil be a perfectly good explanation as to why this guy received $5K from this dealership who happened to place a bet and win some extra cash! It's a snowball waiting to be pushed downhill!
Posted by koLSU86
Member since Aug 2012
3471 posts
Posted on 10/3/19 at 3:48 pm to
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No, dumb frick.


You're a real bad arse on this message board aren't you? I just wonder if you have the balls to talk to people like that to their face when there's a chance you'd get punched right in the fricking mouth.
This post was edited on 10/3/19 at 3:49 pm
Posted by TchPowDog
Zachary, LA
Member since Sep 2015
4798 posts
Posted on 10/3/19 at 3:48 pm to
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What makes you think it won't?

Because the states have been fighting the NCAA for decades trying to relieve the 100% restrictive rules. The states have not been fighting for removing them entirely.

The bill is written the way it is to force the NCAA to change.
Posted by TchPowDog
Zachary, LA
Member since Sep 2015
4798 posts
Posted on 10/3/19 at 3:49 pm to
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You're a real bad arse on this message board aren't you? I just wonder if you have the balls to talk to people like that to their face when there's a chance you'd get punch right in the fricking mouth.

Ok, badass
Posted by RB10
Member since Nov 2010
43822 posts
Posted on 10/3/19 at 3:50 pm to
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The bill is written the way it is to force the NCAA to change.


The bill is written with no restrictions to earnings. You have no idea whether they will accept the NCAA putting a cap on earnings for players.
Posted by Solo Cam
Member since Sep 2015
32633 posts
Posted on 10/3/19 at 3:50 pm to
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If players get a cut...they should contribute to the cost of running a university and the costs of all their sports programs
Lol what? How the hell do you think the athletic department makes money?

People pay to come see them.

Dumbest shite I’ve ever seen on here.
Posted by koLSU86
Member since Aug 2012
3471 posts
Posted on 10/3/19 at 3:52 pm to
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Ok, badass


I'm just asking since you're the one calling everyone dumb frick for having a different outlook on the negatives this could have on college sports. You seem to be on one side of the fence and everyone on the other side is fricking idiot. I don't really see why you are even continuing this discussion if you're already so fricking certain about all of it.
Posted by Crusty
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2011
2427 posts
Posted on 10/3/19 at 3:55 pm to
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The bill is written the way it is to force the NCAA to change.


This bill was written so California can cash in on the additional tax revenue. With all of the under the table payments the athletes get now, the government gets zero. But with all of the above board payments, the state of California gets paid too.
Posted by RB10
Member since Nov 2010
43822 posts
Posted on 10/3/19 at 3:56 pm to
The easiest way around this for the NCAA is for them to say that every program can pool a certain amount (let's say $200K) earned from advertising that uses the athletes, which will then be distributed to the student athletes. The catch would be it gets split evenly among all of the student athletes, regardless of sport.

That's the only way they will be able to keep this from blurring the lines between getting paid for your likeness and getting paid for play.
This post was edited on 10/3/19 at 3:57 pm
Posted by TchPowDog
Zachary, LA
Member since Sep 2015
4798 posts
Posted on 10/3/19 at 3:57 pm to
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I'm just asking since you're the one calling everyone dumb frick for having a different outlook on the negatives this could have on college sports

I didn't call you a dumb frick for having a different opinion. I called you a dumb frick because you obviously didn't read my OP and you put words in my mouth.

I think student athletes on full ride scholarships shouldn't be able to get anything on the side. But that's not most of college athletes.

Most college athletes are fighting to pay tuition in school just like you and I had to do and the NCAA is telling them "you can't use your likeness to earn money" - just think about that for a second. That is beyond wrong!
Posted by Pleasenewdc
West Monroe
Member since Oct 2008
1514 posts
Posted on 10/3/19 at 3:57 pm to
I remember speaking to Don Shows when Cam Robinson committed to Alabama, and I asked, “Why did he choose Bama over LSU?” Without skipping a beat, his reply was, “More money!”

Cam had a brand new truck, and his momma didn’t work, but she somehow lived a comfortable lifestyle. Now, imagine this scenario when “making money off your likeness” is permitted. You’re naive if you think some well-connected booster isn’t going to dip into his deep pockets to get that huge recruit to school or keep a huge contributor from darting off to the NFL.
Posted by Crusty
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2011
2427 posts
Posted on 10/3/19 at 3:59 pm to
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I think student athletes on full ride scholarships shouldn't be able to get anything on the side


So the top tier athletes should turn down the scholarships knowing that they will make more money paying their own way?
Posted by koLSU86
Member since Aug 2012
3471 posts
Posted on 10/3/19 at 4:01 pm to
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Most college athletes are fighting to pay tuition in school just like you and I had to do and the NCAA is telling them "you can't use your likeness to earn money" - just think about that for a second. That is beyond wrong!


Look man, I understand what you're saying and I get your point, but if you think people won't try to exploit it you're being a little naive. Now, if the NCAA puts a cap on it then fine, but the NCAA isn't known for handling things in the appropriate way and I can just see the potential for it being a bad thing for college sports. I'm not saying it will be and if it's done correctly it could be great for the people you're talking about, but if they frick it up like the do most things and leave loop holes it could become a nightmare.
This post was edited on 10/3/19 at 4:03 pm
Posted by lsusteve1
Member since Dec 2004
41903 posts
Posted on 10/3/19 at 4:03 pm to
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My prediction: In 10 years, college athletes will be complaining that they can't receive enough pay.


Exactly, once you give up something it will never end.

Just like liberals
Posted by TchPowDog
Zachary, LA
Member since Sep 2015
4798 posts
Posted on 10/3/19 at 4:06 pm to
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So the top tier athletes should turn down the scholarships knowing that they will make more money paying their own way?

I don't think you've paid attention to what I've said. NCAA would cap these earnings.
Posted by RB10
Member since Nov 2010
43822 posts
Posted on 10/3/19 at 4:09 pm to
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I don't think you've paid attention to what I've said. NCAA would cap these earnings.


How the frick are you in here calling people stupid because they aren’t buying in to what you think MAY happen?

What if they don’t cap it? Then it becomes a free for all to pay top football and basketball recruits.
Posted by slimySand
225
Member since Aug 2018
883 posts
Posted on 10/3/19 at 4:14 pm to
What irritates me is paying players falls under the category of people feeling entitled to more money. They dont value the free education theyre receiving and all the perks that come with being on the team (free LSU gear, free tudoring, special student facilities used only for athletes, free top notch on-campus housing, free food, free physical therapy, and all the awesome gifts for reaching conference championships/bowl games). Everyone else has to pay to go to that college and they dont get any of it without paying for it. Paying players will only speed up the gap between the schools who cant afford to pay players and the ones who can.

If they're going to pay players, they need to go away from scholarships entirely and then just pay them the money they would get normally for an athletic scholarship plus some commission on jersey sales, and see if they use their money wisely. They will have to pay tuition and pay for all the other fees associated with life just like the rest of the students and we'll see how they like treating college football like businesses do their employees.

It'll never be enough no matter how much you give them because they dont appreciate what they already have.
This post was edited on 10/3/19 at 4:15 pm
Posted by ndub1630
Lafayette
Member since Oct 2016
20 posts
Posted on 10/3/19 at 4:25 pm to
Regardless, there will always be an advantage for athletes that are on scholarships. Yeah, maybe one or two non-scholarship kids will make a good bit of money, but majority will be your best top notch athletes which are the athletes on scholarship.
Posted by Keltic Tiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2006
19288 posts
Posted on 10/3/19 at 5:10 pm to
One aspect of the Calif. bill that is being ignored is that it gives the players the right to hire an agent to negotiate for them. Is there any reason to feel that these agents will be honest and upfront, following the law? Once an agent gets his foot in a player's house, honesty and integrity are out the window.
Posted by Srobi14
South Florida
Member since Aug 2014
3517 posts
Posted on 10/3/19 at 5:21 pm to
If they arn't allowed to make money off of a jersey with their name on it. Who should? Some fat NCAA guys?
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