re: Football Scrimmage Info

Folks just dont see the importance of legs on a QB.

One would think that after watching mobile QBs eat our arse up, we would understand the importance of mobility.

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Flynn rushed for 402 yds and 4 tds in 07. and was the 3rd leading rusher on the team.

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Boy is that wrong... Flynn had 100 runs for 215 yards after you count the yards he had lost.... You know a nice 2.2 YPC
Also I have issues with a QB being the second leading rusher on a team with the backs that LSU had in recent seasons. LSU hasn't had a Cam Newton type runner at QB so there is no need to act like we have.

in 2006:
JR 52 carries 142 Yards 1 TD

in 2005:
JR 61 carries -22 Yards 2 TD

2003:
Mauck 79 carries 97 Yards 1 TD

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* 1999: 39/53 (73.6%) for 490 yards, 3 Passing TDs and 1 Rushing TD; with 3 Interceptions
* 2000: 228/415 (54.9%) for 2914 yards, 16 Passing TDs and 2 Rushing TDs; with 18 Interceptions
* 2001: 221/377 (58.6%) for 2717 yards, 13 Passing TDs and 1 Rushing TD; with 12 Interceptions
* 2002: 309/489 (63.2%) for 3942 yards, 33 Passing TDs and 4 Rushing TDs; with 10 Interceptions

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I agree that it's possible for JJ to improve but look at Palmer's stats, he threw a lot of picks but was still able to get yards and TDs being somewhat effective in the passing game

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both those anointing JJ and those ready to downgrade Mett

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"anointing"???

The guy is a 2 year starter for a team that has won 20 games in that period and finished last season as a Top 8 program.

As to Mett, I hope the guy does great, but lets give him a break and not expect him to be Cam II or anything as unreasonable.

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How many people still think JJ should start, only because, once again, the alternative is caucasian?

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Are you asking if people want JJ to start. . .because he is black?

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How many people had no problem booing J. Lee, but insisted that it was unruly when it happened to JJ?

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There was a HUGE outcry against the booing of Lee. Not so much with JJ.

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Or to broaden this a little bit, how many people are pulling for JJ or Mettenberger along racial lines?

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Besides you. . .?

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I will also say this, both of LSU's national titles came when we had qbs that could competently read defenses, stay in the pocket, and pose a threat to passing.

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So?

JJ's stats in 09 compare well to Flynn's in 07.

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If you find yourself not liking JL in 08, but still defending JJ with a more anemic pass offense, you should question your motives. period.

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This is where racists such as yourself get confused.

Nobody on this board thinks JJ is a great QB. . .hell, I don't even think he is good. However, outside of JJ you have a guy that is worse (Lee), and a guy who is unknown (Mett).

You can cry and moan all you want about JJ. . .but if you are willing to give the reins to Lee, or to Mett, sight unseen. . .

. . .Perhaps it is YOUR motives that are in question here.

I want the best guy to play. If that is Mett or JJ, fine. Mett is an unknown commodity at the moment, but if he beats out JJ he should obviously play.

It seems that the arguments in this thread go like this:

Guy 1: I want Lee to start.

Guy 2: Why?

Guy 1: Because JJ sucks.

Guy 2: Lee sucks more.

Guy 1: Lee is better by virtue of his not being Jefferson.

Guy 2: That's fricking stupid.

Guy 1: Then we need to start Mett.

Guy 2: Why?

Guy 1: Because he is not JJ, and I hear he was pretty good in JUCO.

Guy 2: What if Jefferson is outpacing him in practice?

Guy 1: Then we start Mett anyways.

Guy 2: So you start one player over another, even if it means you are playing the worse player?

Guy 1: JJ is worse.

Guy 2: Based on?

Guy 1: JJ's performance last year versus. . .

Guy 2: . . .Mett's hype.

Guy 1: Exactly.

Guy 2: You are an idiot.

Guy 1: Why did we never move Trindon to DE?

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With all the runners LSU has, the QB doesn't have to run.......just hand off and pass......

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Is it Spring 2010 again?

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Both Lee and JJ suffered from a LACK of the 3-C's-
consistincy, composure, and confidence. This can be corrected. I look forward to the spring game, optimistcly antisipating this. Metz is the backup plan- IMO only. This team can be a contender if JJ and Lee develop. Metz can be incorporated into the gameplan, slowly thru the course of the season if Qb play alows it.

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Both Lee and JJ suffered from a LACK of the 3-C's-
consistincy, composure, and confidence. This can be corrected. I look forward to the spring game, optimistcly antisipating this. Metz is the backup plan- IMO only. This team can be a contender if JJ and Lee develop. Metz can be incorporated into the gameplan, slowly thru the course of the season if Qb play alows it.

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I agree.

I would like nothing better than to see ONE of our QBs step up, grab the QB position by the throat, and make it his and I don't give a flying flip who does it.

Having said that, reason and some experience watching LSU/college football in general leads me to believe that QB will far more likely be JJ/JL as opposed to someone new to the program/SEC/FBS football.

I'm just glad LSU APPEARS to be deeper at the QB slot than we have been in years, but we will see if that turns out to be a fact or a delusion on my part.

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I'm going to have to disagree with you there, at least until the last 3rd of the season

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I'm not gonna tell you that the QB/O didn't struggle at times cause it certainly did, but I think it a tad short sided to lay all those struggles on the back of guy or one position.

We don't have a new OC cause JJ/QB was "horrific", but cause the OFFENSE under performed and was inconsistant.

Does JJ/QB have to accept some portion of responsibility for those struggles...of course.

But lets not overlook the RB fumbles, the O-line holding calls, the coaching staff play calling/formation screw ups, and the R drops which came all to often in that part of the season you referenced.

Hopefully, the QBs and O can tighten it up and fewer blown coverages in the D backfield would be welcomed as well. imo