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re: Florida Rep Proposes bill to pay college athletes
Posted on 10/2/19 at 9:56 am to Metaloctopus
Posted on 10/2/19 at 9:56 am to Metaloctopus
The university sells jerseys with numbers not players names on it. Let me know when they start selling jerseys with names on the back. I get that you don’t like Title IX.
Posted on 10/2/19 at 10:10 am to Dizz
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The university sells jerseys with numbers not players names on it. Let me know when they start selling jerseys with names on the back. I get that you don’t like Title IX.
The whole stink a while back was that jerseys were being sold with current numbers of star players on them, and this was somehow considered the same as "likeness". It's supposed to be illegal for anyone to sell college jerseys with actual names of current players on the back. So where is this even taking place, and why aren't we talking about enforcing the law?
If it's only about names now, then what are we even talking about this for?
Posted on 10/2/19 at 10:33 am to Metaloctopus
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It's supposed to be illegal for anyone to sell college jerseys with actual names of current players on the back.
There is no law against selling jerseys with a name on the back it was just prohibited by the NCAA . The bottom line is these laws address agreements between players and private business not schools.
Posted on 10/2/19 at 10:52 am to Dizz
The jersey thing won’t be an issue because the schools will just pivot and sell retired jersey numbers like number 20 or 21 for LSU.
Schools are good at getting around the rules to keep their money.
As for the big corporations: Nike, for example, can’t funnel all the 5 stars to Oregon cuz they will piss off the other 75 schools that have nike contracts and it would cost them money. Now, they could offer to sponsor one player per school or something like that but that’s still not a huge issue cuz any school that has an adidas or some other outfitter contract will just get that company to do the same. Not to mention this shite already happens so let’s not act like we are creating a system that doesn’t already exist.
Back to my point yesterday about Lincoln, the specifics of Lincoln’s intentions and beliefs don’t matter. The point is that you don’t impede progress or accept the status quo because change will be difficult.
Schools are good at getting around the rules to keep their money.
As for the big corporations: Nike, for example, can’t funnel all the 5 stars to Oregon cuz they will piss off the other 75 schools that have nike contracts and it would cost them money. Now, they could offer to sponsor one player per school or something like that but that’s still not a huge issue cuz any school that has an adidas or some other outfitter contract will just get that company to do the same. Not to mention this shite already happens so let’s not act like we are creating a system that doesn’t already exist.
Back to my point yesterday about Lincoln, the specifics of Lincoln’s intentions and beliefs don’t matter. The point is that you don’t impede progress or accept the status quo because change will be difficult.
This post was edited on 10/2/19 at 10:57 am
Posted on 10/2/19 at 11:03 am to Dizz
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The bottom line is these laws address agreements between players and private business not schools.
Really? Not this one: LINK
And you can bet there will be more stupid proposals where that came from. All of this is an effort to ultimately force the NCAA to pay. Some are playing the long game, and some are coming right after them. But it's a bad plan.
This post was edited on 10/2/19 at 11:05 am
Posted on 10/2/19 at 11:09 am to Metaloctopus
And that very bill brings up just what I've been talking about. This guy wants ALL students athletes to get an equal revenue share. Why? Because these politicians are all about equality, even when most student athletes generate zero interest, and zero revenue. This isn't professional sports. They want to treat it that way.
Posted on 10/2/19 at 11:18 am to Bert Macklin FBI
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As for the big corporations: Nike, for example, can’t funnel all the 5 stars to Oregon cuz they will piss off the other 75 schools that have nike contracts and it would cost them money. Now, they could offer to sponsor one player per school or something like that but that’s still not a huge issue cuz any school that has an adidas or some other outfitter contract will just get that company to do the same. Not to mention this shite already happens so let’s not act like we are creating a system that doesn’t already exist.
No, you can't funnel them all to a couple of teams, because you only have so many scholarships to give out. It's that all of these Nike and Adidas sponsored schools stand to benefit more than all of the other schools. And they don't sponsor all of their schools with the same percentage of money. Kansas, as we found out during the FBI investigation, gets a ton of special treatment from Adidas.
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Back to my point yesterday about Lincoln, the specifics of Lincoln’s intentions and beliefs don’t matter. The point is that you don’t impede progress or accept the status quo because change will be difficult.
It does matter, because you gave a bad example. You don't win arguments with faulty examples. But even if we, just for the sake of argument, go with revisionist history's version of Lincoln, you compared two entirely different situations. Lincoln had the power, as he demonstrated, to do what he wanted. He was a dictator. Not to the extent of a Hitler, or Stalin, but a dictator he was, nonetheless. The NCAA faces legal challenges that would likely force them to pay all athletes equally, even though most of them are not real revenue generators. That is bad economics.
It's not just that it's "difficult", it's that it's a bad idea.
This post was edited on 10/2/19 at 11:20 am
Posted on 10/2/19 at 11:29 am to Chicken
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don't like this at all. No one forcing them to play college
True.
The players that get paid should not be eligible for scholarships or if they get a scholarship get a 1099 to go along with it.
Posted on 10/2/19 at 11:33 am to Metaloctopus
It would be great if every college athlete was paid. The states would save millions & millions . The athletes could pay their own way to a school , being as how they would have a job. Pay today. 
Posted on 10/2/19 at 11:44 am to cheeser
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It would be great if every college athlete was paid. The states would save millions & millions . The athletes could pay their own way to a school , being as how they would have a job. Pay today.
As I understand it, athletic scholarships are provided through the revenue generated by athletics.
Posted on 10/2/19 at 11:57 am to Metaloctopus
So if a school withdrew from the NCAA, they would forfeit the payout of conference money from bowls, TV contracts, etc. right ? Few schools can have their own TV networks like ND and Texas. They would give up lots of $$$.
Posted on 10/2/19 at 12:47 pm to tiger81
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So if a school withdrew from the NCAA, they would forfeit the payout of conference money from bowls, TV contracts, etc. right ? Few schools can have their own TV networks like ND and Texas. They would give up lots of $$$.
Precisely.
Posted on 10/2/19 at 6:30 pm to ELchapoLSU
A new industry is going to pop up to take advantage of these kids. People will offer to pay them in lump sums for the rights to their likeness. Some will end up borrowing against future potential. If the poverty and income issues that are driving these changes aren’t addressed many of these athletics will end up worse off. I could be wrong and this will all work out well.
Posted on 10/2/19 at 6:35 pm to LsuNav
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will offer to pay them in lump sums for the rights to their likeness. Some will end up borrowing against future potential
I can see this happening, especially if they aren't allowed to use agents for this stuff.
They will borrow against their potential then if they dont pan out, who will save them. Then some liberal lawmaker will want to bail them out because their just "kids" they didnt know any better
Posted on 10/2/19 at 7:01 pm to TigerDat
I can’t wait for the inevitable 5* GoFundMe: LSU or Bama, most cash gets the commit.
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