- My Forums
- Tiger Rant
- LSU Recruiting
- SEC Rant
- Saints Talk
- Pelicans Talk
- More Sports Board
- Coaching Changes
- Fantasy Sports
- Golf Board
- Soccer Board
- O-T Lounge
- Tech Board
- Home/Garden Board
- Outdoor Board
- Health/Fitness Board
- Movie/TV Board
- Book Board
- Music Board
- Political Talk
- Money Talk
- Fark Board
- Gaming Board
- Travel Board
- Food/Drink Board
- Ticket Exchange
- TD Help Board
Customize My Forums- View All Forums
- Show Left Links
- Topic Sort Options
- Trending Topics
- Recent Topics
- Active Topics
Started By
Message
re: Fired “without cause” but
Posted on 10/18/21 at 7:54 am to The Pirate King
Posted on 10/18/21 at 7:54 am to The Pirate King
quote:
They still released all the dirt, but just hid behind it as “anonymous sources”. It’s a joke.
Lol you think all of the dirt was the gas station comments.
0
Posted on 10/18/21 at 8:11 am to TeTiger
The "without cause" option is the BATNA for O's people and a good move by Woodward. O is going quietly, even somewhat helpfully by some views and LSU doesn't have to battle him in court over what the meaning of "is" is.
Everyone can wash their hands and move on.
Everyone can wash their hands and move on.
Posted on 10/18/21 at 8:44 am to Mid Iowa Tiger
quote:
The "without cause" option is the BATNA for O's people and a good move by Woodward. O is going quietly, even somewhat helpfully by some views and LSU doesn't have to battle him in court over what the meaning of "is" is. Everyone can wash their hands and move on.
Or another possibility, they never had cause.
Or yet another possibility, they had cause and didn't do anything about it at the time.
LSU has responsibilities to address any bad behavior with Ed, you can't hold things in ones back pocket.
Posted on 10/18/21 at 8:55 am to GeauxFightingTigers1
"Plausible deniability" until it all comes out at a later date and LSU doesn't pony up on the full buyout.
Posted on 10/18/21 at 9:01 am to TeTiger
There was obviously a credible threat of CAUSE, otherwise Orgeron would never have agreed to that buyout schedule, which significantly lowers the cost of the buyout. Unless, that is, the contract allowed that buyout schedule.
Posted on 10/18/21 at 9:05 am to TeTiger
quote:
title IX issues stuck to O
Wouldn't those issues also stick to the university if the university made a point to use them to fire him?
Posted on 10/18/21 at 9:07 am to GeauxFightingTigers1
quote:
Or another possibility, they never had cause.
Or yet another possibility, they had cause and didn't do anything about it at the time.
LSU has responsibilities to address any bad behavior with Ed, you can't hold things in ones back pocket.
Firings for cause are rarely a one event item. They typically are a demonstrated pattern of behavior. Those patterns take time to spot, document, and then prove up. Usually it’s easier and less contentious for all involved to agree to move on.
Posted on 10/18/21 at 9:07 am to TeTiger
If Woodward could have saved $17 million he should have done it.
Posted on 10/18/21 at 9:10 am to Mid Iowa Tiger
quote:
Firings for cause are rarely a one event item. They typically are a demonstrated pattern of behavior. Those patterns take time to spot, document, and then prove up. Usually it’s easier and less contentious for all involved to agree to move on.
No, you have to address those things when they happen, you can't hold them in the back pocket. Now... whether the total amount of behavior constitutes "for cause" could take many events. However, I seriously doubt they addressed anything with Ed.
People were just making shite up.
Posted on 10/18/21 at 9:12 am to Kingpenm3
quote:
Wouldn't those issues also stick to the university if the university made a point to use them to fire him?
Title IX investigations deal with the university that receives federal funding.
So, yes. 
Posted on 10/18/21 at 9:28 am to kengel2
Why is there not a morality/ethics or good behavior clause in O's contract? This would at least give AD leeway to offer or negotiate a lower Buyout settlement based on conduct detrimental to the university.
Posted on 10/18/21 at 9:36 am to MLU
No it’s not
It is creepy as all get out but not any thing to do with employment
It is creepy as all get out but not any thing to do with employment
Posted on 10/18/21 at 9:37 am to TeTiger
Let's be honest here. He got the full buyout because while LSU has a ton of dirt on him. He also has a bunch of dirt on LSU and could bury the program. He got the buyout to be quiet.
Posted on 10/18/21 at 9:38 am to Ponchy Tiger
quote:
Let's be honest here. He got the full buyout because while LSU has a ton of dirt on him. He also has a bunch of dirt on LSU and could bury the program. He got the buyout to be quiet.
Let's actually be honest instead of you not being honest.
You don't know, and people were potentially posting bullshite.
Posted on 10/18/21 at 9:43 am to Penrod
quote:
There was obviously a credible threat of CAUSE, otherwise Orgeron would never have agreed to that buyout schedule, which significantly lowers the cost of the buyout. Unless, that is, the contract allowed that buyout schedule.
Except that if there was a credible enough threat wouldn’t fighting it out in court and prolonging paying it for several years be the more prudent choice? I mean, that’s a lot of money if there’s a chance it may not be legally owed.
I think maybe there was a credible threat, not of Cause but of a lot of other embarrassing things that would have come out.
Posted on 10/18/21 at 9:59 am to GeauxFightingTigers1
quote:
Let's actually be honest instead of you not being honest.
You don't know, and people were potentially posting bullshite.
No I don't know specifics. But you tell me why they didn't fire him for cause, when just what we do know is enough. Why is it that it is extremely rare for a coach to be fired for cause when all of their contracts are loaded with moral standards they must follow. Its because big time college athletics is dirty and this isn't exclusive to the ones that have been caught in the past. Yes these things even happened at out beloved LSU, it happens everywhere.
Posted on 10/18/21 at 1:03 pm to TrouserTrout
The BOS?
Posted on 10/18/21 at 1:05 pm to Ponchy Tiger
quote:
No I don't know specifics. But you tell me why they didn't fire him for cause, when just what we do know is enough. Why is it that it is extremely rare for a coach to be fired for cause when all of their contracts are loaded with moral standards they must follow. Its because big time college athletics is dirty and this isn't exclusive to the ones that have been caught in the past. Yes these things even happened at out beloved LSU, it happens everywhere.
I have no verified information as to what he could have fired him for cause for. That doesn't mean it doesn't exist, only I don't know about it.
This post was edited on 10/18/21 at 1:05 pm
Posted on 10/18/21 at 1:23 pm to GeauxFightingTigers1
I never said you don't address them as they happen. I said in most cases a for-cause dismissal is based on a behavior pattern and not a single event.
I have no idea if LSU pulled O aside and said "coach you can't be hitting on married women", "coach, you can't have your bimbos and their kids interrupting practice".
I have no idea if LSU pulled O aside and said "coach you can't be hitting on married women", "coach, you can't have your bimbos and their kids interrupting practice".
Posted on 10/18/21 at 4:05 pm to LSUStar
The Rant
Page 2 of 3
Popular
Back to top
Follow TigerDroppings for LSU Football News