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re: Feels like Joe Brady is the OC in waiting

Posted on 6/12/19 at 8:29 pm to
Posted by Buckeye Jeaux
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Posted on 6/12/19 at 8:29 pm to
I think Brady has a shot at OC. Maybe after a successful launch of the Spread/RPO this season, and then a year or two at co-OC.
Posted by SammyTiger
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Posted on 6/12/19 at 8:31 pm to
Optics of firing second OC in 2 years
Posted by SammyTiger
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Posted on 6/12/19 at 8:35 pm to
I don’t think he forced the Idea on E

I think E can kinda see what’s working in college football

But it’s one thing to see it and another to make your own offense based on concept that you’re not completely familiar with.

Posted by Bayou_Tiger_225
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Posted on 6/12/19 at 8:45 pm to
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The thought of handing it over or using it as a tutoring session for a glorified GA in 2019 or 2020 is mind boggling, but I guess this is the new normal.
If this is the new normal then it won't be for long. Scott Woodward didn't come back to just sit on his arse at home. He has high expectations for this University and will see to it that those expectations are met.

Everyone saying in the national news Coach O is off the hot seat should wait and see how hot that seat get's if he drops 3-4 games this year.
Posted by 225Tyga
Member since Oct 2013
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Posted on 6/12/19 at 8:49 pm to
Paired with the right OC, co-coordinators might work out well like at Clemson
This post was edited on 6/12/19 at 9:11 pm
Posted by OPTIMAX CAT
Mississippi River Delta On Mars
Member since Nov 2007
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Posted on 6/12/19 at 8:50 pm to
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And last year was Cragg and his Super Bowl Ring.



He went nearly insane trying to get that super bowl ring to add a notch in Edward's ole belt...

According to Ree, the best moves that Orgeron makes is and always will be the very last move that O just made.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
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Posted on 6/12/19 at 8:50 pm to
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There is nothing worse than co-coordinators.


Florida has em.
Posted by Tiger Voodoo
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Posted on 6/12/19 at 8:53 pm to
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This whole thing makes no sense to me. Joe Brady was hired to be the OC in waiting, and could take over as soon as next year, yet he has never called plays and had never recruited before(has he signed anyone to date?). But yeah the plan is for that guy to be our offensive coordinator in the next one to two years after being mentored by are current mediocre offensive coordinator. Meanwhile we're competing against offensive coaches like Mullen, Fisher, Moorehead, Gus, Saban(Four of these guys coached a Heisman player FWIW). And this actually sounds like a good idea to some people?



Pretty much


Posted by Buckeye Jeaux
Member since May 2018
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Posted on 6/12/19 at 8:54 pm to
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Never ever ever ever do co-ANYTHING. There is nothing worse than co-coordinators. That’s been proven
Jeff Scott and Tony Elliott at Clemson (co-OC's) would disagree.

Bama, Ohio State, Oklahoma, etc. regularly use co-OC's

This post was edited on 6/12/19 at 8:59 pm
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
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Posted on 6/12/19 at 8:56 pm to
Clemson has co-coordinators
Posted by Bayou_Tiger_225
Third Earth
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Posted on 6/12/19 at 8:58 pm to
Would you consider that a statistical outlier? It isn't very often you see co-coordinators workout.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
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Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 6/12/19 at 9:01 pm to
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isn't very often you see co-coordinators workout.


Most offensive material need head coaches are de facto co-OCs.
Posted by Damone
FoCo
Member since Aug 2016
32966 posts
Posted on 6/12/19 at 9:05 pm to
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Passing Game Coordinator/Wide Receivers


What is Mickey Joseph doing?

What will Brady be doing on Gameday? Will he be involved in personnel groupings? If so, will that be E, Joseph, Brady and O all having a hand in the WR personnel groupings?
Posted by Goldrush25
San Diego, CA
Member since Oct 2012
33897 posts
Posted on 6/12/19 at 9:07 pm to
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I don’t think he forced the Idea on E

I think E can kinda see what’s working in college football


Still, Ensminger being here in the first place is an unnecessary pathway towards what you want to do, if that's not the philosophy in which he's versed.

We're taking the most convoluted, roundabout path towards the destination instead of taking the shortest route there.
Posted by Buckeye Jeaux
Member since May 2018
17756 posts
Posted on 6/12/19 at 9:09 pm to
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Would you consider that a statistical outlier? It isn't very often you see co-coordinators workout.

No.

Nearly every program in contention for the playoffs regularly (but not always) use co-OC's. The outlier would be top programs who don't.
This post was edited on 6/12/19 at 9:12 pm
Posted by Damone
FoCo
Member since Aug 2016
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Posted on 6/12/19 at 9:12 pm to
If the head coach can be considered a co-OC, and since O is involved with the offense, are O and E co-OC’s?
Posted by deaux
Member since Oct 2018
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Posted on 6/12/19 at 9:13 pm to
Posted by dgnx6
Member since Feb 2006
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Posted on 6/12/19 at 9:13 pm to
I think he was a good hire. It's one thing to say you visit with x team and get some ideas. Totally diff to have a guy see your players everyday and in meetings everyday to help bring new ideas.

My issue is with the people thinking he's just going to overhaul the offense and we are going to look like the saints.

Even if he did, what does it say about E? So far the Canada and E experiments have not moved this offense forward.
This post was edited on 6/12/19 at 9:22 pm
Posted by Buckeye Jeaux
Member since May 2018
17756 posts
Posted on 6/12/19 at 9:21 pm to
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My issue is with the people thinking he's just going to overhaul the offense and we are going to look like the saints
O & E are rebuilding the offense. Brady worked for a couple great "architects", and is bringing all the highly detailed blueprints.
This post was edited on 6/12/19 at 9:23 pm
Posted by The First Cut
Member since Apr 2012
14740 posts
Posted on 6/12/19 at 9:22 pm to
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Would you consider that a statistical outlier? It isn't very often you see co-coordinators workout.


There is no "right" formula; every team is different. Clemson has co-offensive coordinators. Bama had co-offensive and co-defensive coordinators in 2018. In 2019 Bama has two associate head coaches and an associate defensive coordinator.

This board keeps wringing its hands over such trivial things.
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