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re: Feels like Joe Brady is the OC in waiting

Posted on 6/12/19 at 6:44 pm to
Posted by Rosenblatt
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Posted on 6/12/19 at 6:44 pm to
Awesome. Thanks Ree!

Do you know if he will have input in play calling?
Posted by Triple Bogey
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Posted on 6/12/19 at 6:45 pm to
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It won’t. Eaux has said it’s not the same


Posted by SammyTiger
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Posted on 6/12/19 at 6:45 pm to
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Actually yes I can. After every new hire I imagine this is going to be the guy who fixes it. I've done it for the past two years with Canada and Sullivan. And we've seen how that turned out. Speaking of Sullivan, I wonder how many glowing reviews he got considering he's got a 30-plus year NFL coaching career.


Neither of those guys improved our offense.

And as much as I hate Os approach to the offense

It was different in 2017 and in 2018 scheme wise.

I honeslty Think 2018 was E’s best attempt at an RPO Offense. Brady knows what that actually is.
This post was edited on 6/12/19 at 6:48 pm
Posted by Bayou_Tiger_225
Third Earth
Member since Mar 2016
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Posted on 6/12/19 at 6:48 pm to
Last year's offense was very different than the 2016 and 2017 offense. Sadly that didn't correlate to it being much better statistically.

LSU's offense next year is going to be better regardless. We have an offense that is chock-full of returning players in the key positions, and two stud running backs coming in which is the easiest plug-and-play position. It is in my opinion that the improvement we see in the offense will have more to do with those factors than anything Joe Brady incorporates.

I look forward to being proven wrong this year, however history is on my side.
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
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Posted on 6/12/19 at 6:48 pm to
I doubt He calls plays this year.
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
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Posted on 6/12/19 at 6:51 pm to
You must not know the rules with his kind

If the resume is bad it doesn’t count, if the resume is good that’s all they’ll talk about.
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
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Posted on 6/12/19 at 6:51 pm to
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LSU's offense next year is going to be better regardless. We have an offense that is chock-full of returning players in the key positions, and two stud running backs coming in which is the easiest plug-and-play position. It is in my opinion that the improvement we see in the offense will have more to do with those factors than anything Joe Brady incorporates.


I’vw heard all that before too.

Sorry. It the offense scheme has actively held back our team as much as talent or experience (and more when we have both)

2017 we actually had a returning QB, RB, 2 WR, TE, LT, C RT. We basically returned everyone but the guards.

Posted by tandrews37
Member since Jun 2019
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Posted on 6/12/19 at 6:55 pm to
Someone should tell him that “body of work” means the whole thing...not the parts you want to include and exclude.

Do people at Kansas only talk about Miles’ time at LSU? I’d hope not, since his time at Oklahoma State is probably more applicable, considering miles built OK st from scratch as compared to walking into a top 5 program here.
Posted by Tiger Ree
Houston
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Posted on 6/12/19 at 6:56 pm to
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Do you know if he will have input in play calling?


It certainly sounds like it is very possible.

Quotes that I just posted from his LSU bio.
"Brady will work alongside offensive coordinator Steve Ensminger in the overall development of the Tigers offense"
Posted by Bayou_Tiger_225
Third Earth
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Posted on 6/12/19 at 6:56 pm to
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I honeslty Think 2018 was E’s best attempt at an RPO Offense.
I asked this question in a different thread earlier today. If Steve ensminger wanted to run an RPO offense last year, then why did he and coach O hire an old traditional NFL coach who in his 30-plus year career had no experience installing an RPO offense?

The one thing I will say about the Brady higher is that for once Coach O hired a guy who's offensive background actually aligned with what Coach O said he wanted to do. At the same time I asked why would Coach O say it's not an X's and O's issue, but a Jimmies and Joes issue, and then proceed to hire someone who is apparently going to give LSU a different offense than they had last year?
Posted by tandrews37
Member since Jun 2019
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Posted on 6/12/19 at 6:56 pm to
I’m assuming you meant con man but I see your point.

I forget how fast Lincoln Riley went from no one knew his name to now NFL guys are saying that OU is going to have to fight like hell to keep him from the NFL poaching him.
Posted by Bayou_Tiger_225
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Posted on 6/12/19 at 6:59 pm to
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2017 we actually had a returning QB, RB, 2 WR, TE, LT, C RT. We basically returned everyone but the guards. 
right but in 2017 the best offensive coordinator available (per Coach O) was stuck at tight ends coach. and as I just said in my other post Coach O called it a Jimmy's and Joe's issue not an X's and O's issue.
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
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Posted on 6/12/19 at 7:00 pm to
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I asked this question in a different thread earlier today. If Steve ensminger wanted to run an RPO offense last year, then why did he and coach O hire an old traditional NFL coach who in his 30-plus year career had no experience installing an RPO offense


Because O thought that would work. And I guess They figured they could collectively figure it out. Honestly it was a bad fricking idea. O likes E and doesn’t want to just boot him.

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The one thing I will say about the Brady higher is that for once Coach O hired a guy who's offensive background actually aligned with what Coach O said he wanted to do. At the same time I asked why would Coach O say it's not an X's and O's issue, but a Jimmies and Joes issue, and then proceed to hire someone who is apparently going to give LSU a different offense than they had last year?


O says a lot of shite. He’s also said the offense is gonna be different. It looked pretty different at the Spring Game too.
Posted by UncleRuckus
Member since Feb 2013
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Posted on 6/12/19 at 7:05 pm to
How is getting the current shitty OC grooming the OC in waiting a good thing?
Posted by Tiger Ree
Houston
Member since Jun 2004
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Posted on 6/12/19 at 7:08 pm to
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At the same time I asked why would Coach O say it's not an X's and O's issue, but a Jimmies and Joes issue, and then proceed to hire someone who is apparently going to give LSU a different offense than they had last year?


You hire the BEST person available. The old WR coach retired, Eaux and Slinger had both been very impressed with Brady and they hire him.

I believe it was Rakim Jarrett (LSU's 5-star WR commit) who when asked when he decided he would commit to LSU said "When they hired Joe Brady from the New Orleans Saints".
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
66342 posts
Posted on 6/12/19 at 7:10 pm to
E’a Biggest issue is scheme.

Joe can still learn about the day to day administrative responsibilities of the position, and get some recruiting pointers.
Posted by tandrews37
Member since Jun 2019
721 posts
Posted on 6/12/19 at 7:13 pm to
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You hire the BEST person available. The old WR coach retired, Eaux and Slinger had both been very impressed with Brady and they hire him.


This post makes no sense.

So because Orgeron and Ensminger were impressed that means he was the best person available?
This post was edited on 6/12/19 at 7:14 pm
Posted by League Champs
Bayou Self
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 6/12/19 at 7:15 pm to
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he is not going to be our OC next year.

lulz

If EdO loses 3 games, he won't be around next year. Neither will Brady.
Posted by Bayou_Tiger_225
Third Earth
Member since Mar 2016
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Posted on 6/12/19 at 7:16 pm to
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Because O thought that would work. And I guess They figured they could collectively figure it out. 
And there is the issue. Coach O was brought in to fix the offense. Not to spend years playing trial and error until he figures out what works. He was suppose to get us on the right track offensively in 2017, so in 2019 we would have a settled offensive identity ready to compete for championships. Instead we now have the 4th new offense in 4 years.

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Honestly it was a bad fricking idea.
Yes it was. So was banking on Lane Kiffin to being your OC with no back-up plan.

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O says a lot of shite.
Yes he does. Which is why I'm convinced he's just flip flopping around with offensive styles until he find which one that works, rather than committing to an offensive style and building the program around it. Are we USC 2003? Are we the saints passing offense? Are we Penn state's RPO? Or are we whatever the hell we were last year when he said the scheme was fine?
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
66342 posts
Posted on 6/12/19 at 7:19 pm to
Yeah O is flip flopping.

He’s honestly making changes till something works.

Which I guess Is better than riding a broken offense till he’s fired.

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