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re: Faggie Coaching Model should be our blueprint

Posted on 10/19/25 at 9:56 am to
Posted by EastWestConnection
Denver/Shenzhen/Belfast
Member since Jul 2024
1209 posts
Posted on 10/19/25 at 9:56 am to
most people here were screeching not long ago that lsu is not a place that hires "up and coming coaches"

we are LSU so we get the big name coaches.

But outside of like two big name coaches it's all a crapshoot.
Posted by The Hurricane
Gulf of Mexico
Member since Aug 2011
9778 posts
Posted on 10/19/25 at 10:00 am to
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Graves being worth $17 BILLION

Is that a smart decision for Graves though? As a businessman, you’re not blindly giving away $50m without getting more leverage in return. He shouldn’t be solely responsible for funding Woodwards mistakes.
Posted by raginjeauxcajun
somewhere between here and there
Member since Sep 2010
507 posts
Posted on 10/19/25 at 10:04 am to
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IMO, Clark Lea makes a lot of sense for us.... has built a solid team basically from the ground up, in the SEC, and would be on the cheaper side, vs. some other bigger name coaches.... what's he been able to accomplish at Vandy in his time there, is impressive


Lea is coaching at his Alma Mater and childhood team. Also he was quite shite without Pavia
Posted by EasterEgg
New Orleans Metro
Member since Sep 2018
5299 posts
Posted on 10/19/25 at 10:08 am to
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Graves being worth $17 BILLION


Mercy, that chicken costs way too much. When I was at LSU caniacs were $7 and still came with 7 fingers!
Posted by RGT
Member since Aug 2024
1556 posts
Posted on 10/19/25 at 10:09 am to
Yea let’s see how Lea does without Pavia.Is he another Curley without Favre.
Posted by Lakeboy7
New Orleans
Member since Jul 2011
28207 posts
Posted on 10/19/25 at 10:10 am to
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up & coming coach


Elko is 60

He needs to pull Kelly in and ask him if he would be agreeable to a deal. There is zero incentive for Kelly to do that other than he may be tired of the grind. He is 65 and there are no days off in modern college football. If he would waive a year we can buy him out and maintain the roster.

Brohm and Dillingham would be first two calls, but Brohm may already have the PSU job.
Posted by notbilly
alter
Member since Sep 2015
6762 posts
Posted on 10/19/25 at 10:16 am to
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Kiffin would 1000% take the job


He's not coming. He's making $9M at ole miss. They would match or beat anything we throw at him. If this position is available, how attractive is it that we fired a guy 4 years in after inheriting a shite show? Yes, Kelly should be doing better, but in the scenario where BK gets fired this year, what makes this job attractive? That also means we've depleted all resources paying him and his staff's buyouts. So the new coach doesn't have shite to spend on NIL b/c it's all going to BK and his staff.

Your options at this point are very likely: 1) keep BK and overhaul the offensive staff. Lots of NIL $ needed to fill the roster as well. OR 2) shell out $70M+ in buyouts and hire someone on the cheap, hoping they work out and don't drive the program further into the abyss.

I hate the situation we are in b/c I don't see a way out of this in the short term.
Posted by John Rambeaux
Heauxpe, WA
Member since Oct 2023
537 posts
Posted on 10/19/25 at 10:17 am to
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Lea is coaching at his Alma Mater and childhood team. Also he was quite shite without Pavia



Insane that people think Lea is an option.

Go look at his record. End of discussion.
Posted by LSUScores
Member since Oct 2015
1346 posts
Posted on 10/19/25 at 10:22 am to
If I’m not mistaken, a basketball school just signed their football coach for $92M for 8 years
This post was edited on 10/19/25 at 10:23 am
Posted by Tiger Prawn
Member since Dec 2016
25112 posts
Posted on 10/19/25 at 12:29 pm to
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Cig’s is a special one. You have a school that has absolutely no business competing for a national title and he has them headed in that direction for the 2nd year now.
Only halfway through year 2. Plays one of, if not the worst OOC schedule in the country. Got blown out by the only 2 ranked teams they played last year. Only 2-2 vs ranked teams at Indiana.

Its amazing what he’s done with that program, but that’s not really a resume you’d expect to now have the 3rd highest salary and 3rd highest buyout in the country. Especially right at a time when you have at least 4 coaches that have among the biggest buyouts in CFB either fired already (Franklin) or have schools that would love to fire them but can’t because of how huge the buyout cost is (Kelly, Norvell, Stoops)
Posted by airbornetiger
SATX
Member since Sep 2006
1483 posts
Posted on 10/19/25 at 12:38 pm to
So, with this logic we would not have hired ANYONE—the only SEC retread we hired (backed into) was CEO and his prior SEC experience would not have warranted a hire.

Posted by Geauxldilocks
Member since Aug 2018
5492 posts
Posted on 10/19/25 at 12:41 pm to
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Do you really think those same people will want to give a lot more money to a HC they have no faith in?


Woody and Austin going to tap into their best fundraising skills next several months to build a portal roster that can compete in 2026.

BK and Unity Field BS not helping matters at all.
Posted by airbornetiger
SATX
Member since Sep 2006
1483 posts
Posted on 10/19/25 at 12:42 pm to
You ruined it with the childish “Faggie Coaching Model…”
Posted by Bestbank Tiger
Premium Member
Member since Jan 2005
79119 posts
Posted on 10/19/25 at 12:44 pm to
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They then went and found an up & coming coach (not an established guy that's going to want a 10 yr / $100MM contract) and worked it out to pay him in massive incentives while getting through the Jimbo payout.


That's the future.

But can you imagine tMelt if we hired a Sunbelt head coach or a coordinator to replace O?
Posted by Tiger in NY
Neptune Beach, FL
Member since Sep 2003
31383 posts
Posted on 10/19/25 at 12:48 pm to
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I want a head coach with solid SEC experience


This is a tired trope. 2 of our titles came from coaches with no SEC experience and the 3rd was a guy that was like 10-30 in the SEC prior
Posted by Demonbengal
Ruston
Member since May 2015
4858 posts
Posted on 10/19/25 at 12:56 pm to
To me if you want to pay high dollar per year you can, but keep the contracts to 4-5 years.
Posted by Basura Blanco
Member since Dec 2011
11376 posts
Posted on 10/19/25 at 12:56 pm to
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No one is getting these contracts any more and the massive buyouts are gone as well.


Everyone is getting these contracts with the same massive buyouts. What you are seeing is schools sticking with failing coaches longer due to contracts. Watch what Florida and Auburn give their next two coaches in the very near future.
Posted by geauxjo
Gonzales, LA
Member since Sep 2004
15283 posts
Posted on 10/19/25 at 12:58 pm to
I know this isn’t quite how it works but:

1. We have to make wholesale changes to offensive coaching staff. That’s a given.

2. IF Baker gets an offer/makes a move for whatever reason- you also have to replace defensive staff.

3. The timing of all that would possibly be not optimal - BUT at that point I’d rather just blow the whole thing up and start over from top-down.

Coaching changes are a flip of the coin. Unless someone just falls in your lap through timing it’s typically unpredictable. But if we’re just going to keep playing “plug the hole” with BK - I’d rather us get off the rollercoaster.
Posted by Basura Blanco
Member since Dec 2011
11376 posts
Posted on 10/19/25 at 1:02 pm to
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Bama seems to be doing alright with a coach who didn’t have SEC experience



The guy initially struggled to replace the best coach in history with the most talented roster in the country. I agree he is succeeding, but I would say he is closer to meeting expectations as opposed to exceeding at this point in his tenure. The next two months will will tell us a lot about him and that program. It certainly looks like they look like they are the best team in the country THIS year.
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