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re: Explain to me how Orgeron was an upgrade over Miles.

Posted on 11/11/18 at 10:07 am to
Posted by oOoLsUtIgErSoOo
Louisiana
Member since Aug 2006
26411 posts
Posted on 11/11/18 at 10:07 am to
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Takes more than a yr to fix depth problems on the lines,........ you must not know football


I didn't say this. Quote the entire message, instead of twisting it. I said we were told by the O lovers, that the depth on the lines was fixed.
Posted by bencoleman
RIP 7/19
Member since Feb 2009
37887 posts
Posted on 11/11/18 at 10:10 am to
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provided evidence to back up my argument, all you provided was excuses


No you didn't. You pulled some stupid shite out of your arse. Trying to defend the indefensible. All you want is validation for your hatred of the coaches. You don't actually want to have an objective discussion. The stupidity on this board is exhausting.
Posted by epicopt116
Member since Nov 2017
1904 posts
Posted on 11/11/18 at 10:10 am to
I support O, and I’ll be first to tell ya the lines are definitely not fixed.

I would like to know why the mass loss on the lines though, if anyone has some sauces....

Will take a couple of yrs to fix those lines, I do expect playoffs next yr, if not O can pack his bags. He had a good try at it, but if he can’t get their next yr, then he can go.

We need immediate change on offense here
Posted by Topwater Trout
Red Stick
Member since Oct 2010
67589 posts
Posted on 11/11/18 at 10:12 am to
Miles would have lost to ark last night...as well as at Auburn
Posted by Lonnie4LSU
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2008
9525 posts
Posted on 11/11/18 at 10:12 am to
“ The offensive line play has been abysmal”

Be that true or not, the blame for that rest squarely on the shoulders of Coach O. Just as it did on miles, Saban, or any other LSU head coach.

For what ever the reason, our offense is performing badly overall and being a detriment do the defense and the team overall. The fact that hasn’t changed under two different HC and three different OCs is pretty dang frustrating to most people.

Anyone who doesn’t like these discussions, need to take it up with Coach O because he’s the one responsible for it.
Posted by epicopt116
Member since Nov 2017
1904 posts
Posted on 11/11/18 at 10:13 am to
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Miles would have lost to ark last night...as well as at Auburn



I agree, Miles was slowly killing this program.

O is staying afloat, we need to get out the damn water!!
Posted by oOoLsUtIgErSoOo
Louisiana
Member since Aug 2006
26411 posts
Posted on 11/11/18 at 10:13 am to
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No you didn't. You pulled some stupid shite out of your arse


What is one thing I listed in the OP that wasn't a fact?

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All you want is validation for your hatred of the coaches.


I have zero hatred for Orgeron, and don't think he should be fired after this season. I do, however, have concerns about the long term state of the football program.

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You don't actually want to have an objective discussion


Its funny, because that is exactly what was happening until you showed up in the thread.
Posted by Imber
Member since Sep 2017
12998 posts
Posted on 11/11/18 at 10:14 am to
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That would have come here? Can you name a few? Fedora? Fleck?




Don't know. The next HC candidate Alleva interviews will be his first.
Posted by oOoLsUtIgErSoOo
Louisiana
Member since Aug 2006
26411 posts
Posted on 11/11/18 at 10:14 am to
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Miles would have lost to ark last night...as well as at Auburn


You have zero way of knowing this.
Posted by epicopt116
Member since Nov 2017
1904 posts
Posted on 11/11/18 at 10:18 am to
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The next HC candidate Alleva interviews will be his first.




Yep!!!!!

Alleva is the main problem here!!
Posted by Imber
Member since Sep 2017
12998 posts
Posted on 11/11/18 at 10:18 am to
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The dude that has WSU out of nowhere into a possible playoff spot was reportedly inquiring about it. There are others don’t be such a jackass


Leach/Aranda 2019
Posted by bencoleman
RIP 7/19
Member since Feb 2009
37887 posts
Posted on 11/11/18 at 10:20 am to
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Its funny, because that is exactly what was happening until you showed up in the thread


bullshite. You started the name calling because you didn't want to hear that the offensive line I'd terrible. You keep claiming that they're all world when their performance doesn't back that up.
Posted by jimmy the leg
Member since Aug 2007
34124 posts
Posted on 11/11/18 at 10:21 am to
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There were probably 20-30 more qualified, better candidates, that would have come for WAY less than 100 million. 


I was not a fan of the Orgeron hire but ignoring how toxic LSU football had become in the minds of the country at that point is revisionist history. Stating that therefore 30 more qualified candidates willing to step in with some of the stipulations in place is disingenuous imo. Keeping Miles and shitting on Jimbo in the process is something that the whole world saw. Ben is right in that Jimbo should be in year three. Aleva and Fuc King get the blame, but we can't leave President Jindal out of the debacle. Again, I'm not a Orgeron fan, but let's see where this goes. I called for 10-2 and a bowl win. If he is falling short, then he too can hit the bricks. Let's just hope that Kansas hires Led and frees up some money just in case we are looking at another buyout.

TLDR

Jindal,Fking,and Aleva = Orgeron

Win out or hot seat time.

Posted by tduecen
Member since Nov 2006
161244 posts
Posted on 11/11/18 at 10:23 am to
He was supposed to bring in a real OC and let them do their job and just focus on recruiting.


Les gave him a legit DC, O hasn't lived up to his part of the deal.
Posted by Jack Crevalle
USVI
Member since Aug 2018
6715 posts
Posted on 11/11/18 at 10:24 am to
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There were probably 20-30 more qualified, better candidates that would have come.

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I'm not a CEO apologist but that's utter bullcrap. That's the Larry Fedora argument and it doesn't wash.


All realistic, highly more qualified targets. Shall I keep going?







Posted by oOoLsUtIgErSoOo
Louisiana
Member since Aug 2006
26411 posts
Posted on 11/11/18 at 10:24 am to
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You keep claiming that they're all world when their performance doesn't back that up.


Stop making stuff up idiot. Not once did I say anything close to the offensive line being "all world." I've actually stated in this thread that they have sucked.
Posted by bencoleman
RIP 7/19
Member since Feb 2009
37887 posts
Posted on 11/11/18 at 10:26 am to
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Stop making stuff up idiot. Not once did I say anything close to the offensive line being "all world." I've actually stated in this thread that they have sucked


Stop being an insufferable a-hole then.
Posted by TickledTiger
Down & Out
Member since Dec 2007
2837 posts
Posted on 11/11/18 at 10:31 am to
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everything miles should be gone from the team on offense!!
Posted by OKTGR580
Baton Rouge to Houston, TX
Member since Apr 2018
6318 posts
Posted on 11/11/18 at 10:35 am to
“We’re gonna spread things out. Go mostly 4 wide and sometimes 5 wide. Move the ball around get space”



Yeah right.
Posted by TigerChief10
Member since Dec 2012
10858 posts
Posted on 11/11/18 at 11:48 am to
No, all I'm saying is the trajectory of the program since weve moved from Miles to Orgeron has changed and started getting better instead of worse. No matter how slowly it is, the trajectory is going up and thats all im saying there. I want to win the west and beat bama. Les sure as hell wasnt gonna get it done and the entire program was moving back instead of forward.
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