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Posted on 11/26/18 at 11:52 am to Y.A. Tittle
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I think I vaguely remember this one. Was the clock deemed stopped the moment the ball crossed the out of bounds line?
I think they said the clock stopped the moment it hit something OOB.
Posted on 11/26/18 at 11:53 am to pvilleguru
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I think they said the clock stopped the moment it hit something OOB.
Is that when a clock operator is instructed to stop it? I guess.
Posted on 11/26/18 at 11:54 am to Buda
Look at you. Sooooooooooo even-handed and rational, not a homer, not biased. You are SO fair-minded and virtuous.
Posted on 11/26/18 at 11:55 am to Y.A. Tittle
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Is that when a clock operator is instructed to stop it? I guess.
Either then or at the whistle, but if needed, they can review to set the clock at the moment it became dead (when it hit something OOB).
This post was edited on 11/26/18 at 11:57 am
Posted on 11/26/18 at 11:58 am to Buda
2) The first down on 4th and 18. Good call.
The yellow line drawn by the network was incorrect. There are many articles on the web that show this to be true. The receiver was past the actual first down marker. Again, it sucks; but this was also the correct call.
Forget about the yellow line. The issue is where the ball is when the receiver hits the ground as compared to where the Line Ref spotted it (walks in from the top of the screen after the receiver rolls forward). The Line Ref was clearly wrong giving him an extra yard on the spot...and the first down.
The yellow line drawn by the network was incorrect. There are many articles on the web that show this to be true. The receiver was past the actual first down marker. Again, it sucks; but this was also the correct call.
Forget about the yellow line. The issue is where the ball is when the receiver hits the ground as compared to where the Line Ref spotted it (walks in from the top of the screen after the receiver rolls forward). The Line Ref was clearly wrong giving him an extra yard on the spot...and the first down.
This post was edited on 11/26/18 at 11:59 am
Posted on 11/26/18 at 11:58 am to Buda
You are correct on all counts!
And Greedy does like to trash talk. I distinctly saw him trash talking with an aTm receiver earlier in the game (don't remember whether it was in regulation or a previous OT) and a ref had to intervene (not sure if it was the same ref who made the PI call). So, my suspicion is that Greedy had been warned to watch his mouth earlier and; while the original PI call was still horrible, Greedy was already on a short least and this was the "second offense" so to speak.
Just my theory!
And Greedy does like to trash talk. I distinctly saw him trash talking with an aTm receiver earlier in the game (don't remember whether it was in regulation or a previous OT) and a ref had to intervene (not sure if it was the same ref who made the PI call). So, my suspicion is that Greedy had been warned to watch his mouth earlier and; while the original PI call was still horrible, Greedy was already on a short least and this was the "second offense" so to speak.
Just my theory!
Posted on 11/26/18 at 11:59 am to pvilleguru
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Either then or at the whistle, but if needed, they can review to set the clock at the moment it became dead (when it hit something OOB).
This is what I don't get. When was it determined that there can be some sort of definitive instantaneous visual cue that can trump a whistle?
Posted on 11/26/18 at 12:02 pm to Y.A. Tittle
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When was it determined that there can be some sort of definitive instantaneous visual cue that can trump a whistle?
I don't think it really became an issue until replay began. Once you could review and pinpoint when the ball hits the ground, that has to take precedent over an official with a slow whistle.
Posted on 11/26/18 at 12:03 pm to Mo Jeaux
bullshite, that’s a damned fumble. 100%
You had no issue with that call?
You had no issue with that call?
Posted on 11/26/18 at 12:04 pm to Y.A. Tittle
I know in the NFL, touchdowns and turnovers are automatically reviewed; not 100% certain about the NCAA but I would assume the same applies.
Posted on 11/26/18 at 12:05 pm to pvilleguru
It just creates sort of a logical fallacy to me to say, we are going to apply a standard of absolute timekeeping precision at THIS moment of the game, but for the rest of the time we're cool with all sorts of human error being built into it.
And for the record, I'm not saying I wouldn't be arguing this should go in LSU's favor if the shoe was on the other foot. I'm just speaking for purposes of general logical discussion of the issue.
And for the record, I'm not saying I wouldn't be arguing this should go in LSU's favor if the shoe was on the other foot. I'm just speaking for purposes of general logical discussion of the issue.
Posted on 11/26/18 at 12:06 pm to EvrybodysAllAmerican
This is what baffles me! How do you run 100+ plays and only three penalties are called!!!
Posted on 11/26/18 at 12:08 pm to tschla1
I was at the game and my biggest takeaway was around the 2nd or 3rd overtime when one of the corner video boards flashed the number of penalties for each team...at that point A&M had 1.
Posted on 11/26/18 at 12:08 pm to Y.A. Tittle
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It just creates sort of a logical fallacy to me to say, we are going to apply a standard of absolute timekeeping precision at THIS moment of the game, but for the rest of the time we're cool with all sorts of human error being built into it
You ready for a 4 quarter game to take 4 and a half hours? You have to let it go until you get down to the end of the game.
Posted on 11/26/18 at 12:10 pm to Buda
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4) The Sternberger fumble/incompletion. Very much a judgment call. The review was correct not to overturn because it was called incomplete on the field. The original call could have gone either way and, whichever way it went, the review would not have overturned. Unfortunate 50-50 call.
Correct me if I am wrong, but this play was not reviewed by the booth. That is the upsetting thing about the whole play. Even the announcers were stating that it was a fumble and the game should have been over.
Posted on 11/26/18 at 12:10 pm to Buda
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I agree this was the correct call, but you're not addressing the importance of it being missed on the field. The 10 second runoff was NOTHING compared to the absolute chaos that would have resulted from the call of "QB down" being made in real time. LSU wins if call on field is correct.
The chaos that would have ensued after a whistle just before the pass would have certainly ran off more than 10 seconds
Posted on 11/26/18 at 12:11 pm to pvilleguru
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You ready for a 4 quarter game to take 4 and a half hours? You have to let it go until you get down to the end of the game.
Nah. I think perhaps we should stick with the whistle rule, though.
Posted on 11/26/18 at 12:13 pm to Le Tenia
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It is impossible to snap and spike with :01 on the clock and have no additional time run off.
The rule states if spiked under 3 seconds time expires. If he did indeed get it off with ONE SECOND LEFT the game should still have been OVER
This post was edited on 11/26/18 at 12:14 pm
Posted on 11/26/18 at 12:14 pm to Le Tenia
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It is impossible to snap and spike with :01 on the clock and have no additional time run off.
Can someone help me here? Without seeing a video (which will help if someone can link it) so I'm goin on memory, I thought he snapped at 3 seconds and it hit the ground at 1 second. What am I missing here?
This post was edited on 11/26/18 at 12:15 pm
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