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re: Ethan Frey...Is the plan for him to take over for JJ at 1st??

Posted on 6/11/25 at 12:47 pm to
Posted by Ranger Call
Lonesome Dove / Montana
Member since Apr 2023
453 posts
Posted on 6/11/25 at 12:47 pm to
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Astros gave him an OF glove and are playing him in LF. As far where things rank on the difficulty scale in baseball, playing LF is not near the top.


He seems so out of place in LF. I still haven't gotten used to seeing him out there.
Posted by Lester Earl
3rd Ward
Member since Nov 2003
285297 posts
Posted on 6/11/25 at 12:49 pm to
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All I heard last year is guys like Jared Jones grow on trees n don't carry a super high valve to mlb teams. We think a guy with half that production that doesn't have a position defensively is definitely going pro? I don't see it...




why do yall fight this every draft season
Posted by tke_swamprat
Houma, LA
Member since Aug 2004
10558 posts
Posted on 6/11/25 at 12:57 pm to
I think the “leverage” argument is so overblown these days with NIL.

It’s pretty simple. Jay will be honest with him regarding his position if he stays whether it be 1B, OF, or DH.

He will get drafted and then way those options. NIL could very well get him back to LSU. Another year working with better coaches, facilities, and facing tougher competition never hurt anyone.
Posted by BayTiger13
Louisiana
Member since Feb 2022
2431 posts
Posted on 6/11/25 at 1:01 pm to
What is overblown is the amount of money people think baseball players are getting in NIL..
Posted by notbilly
alter
Member since Sep 2015
6263 posts
Posted on 6/11/25 at 1:01 pm to
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Link?


No link. I just know a guy that is involved in some things. You don’t have to believe me. I don’t care. But do you think Bear skipped the draft last year to come back for a $100k? He would have made a lot more than that in last years draft.

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And there’s the difference between he and Jones


You are missing the point completely, but carry on.
Posted by Tigerfan1274
Member since May 2019
4087 posts
Posted on 6/11/25 at 1:10 pm to
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All I heard last year is guys like Jared Jones grow on trees n don't carry a super high valve to mlb teams


They don't. There were only two true 1B picked in the first round a year ago. And they still might try Caglione in the OF before all is said and done.

Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
Member since Sep 2008
69258 posts
Posted on 6/11/25 at 1:10 pm to
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I think the “leverage” argument is so overblown these days with NIL.

well it's not
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NIL could very well get him back to LSU

name a junior who chose to come back because of an NIL package. I'll wait.

I don't know why our fans do this to themselves every year. Same shite with Herring last year "he can just take an NIL package...he needs to prove he can be a starter...he can make more money by coming back." Flash forward...he signed for almost $900k and is crushing it as a starter in AA
Posted by Lester Earl
3rd Ward
Member since Nov 2003
285297 posts
Posted on 6/11/25 at 1:11 pm to
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I think the “leverage” argument is so overblown these days with NIL.




feel free to prove your theory
Posted by Tigerfan1274
Member since May 2019
4087 posts
Posted on 6/11/25 at 1:12 pm to
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think the “leverage” argument is so overblown these days with NIL.


Okay, I'll play. Can you provide a single example of a Top 150 - 200 Jr who returned to college for his Sr. year? At LSU or anywhere else.
Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
Member since Sep 2008
69258 posts
Posted on 6/11/25 at 1:12 pm to
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But do you think Bear skipped the draft last year to come back for a $100k? He would have made a lot more than that in last years draft.


draft eligible sophomores have a different kind of leverage than a junior does. A junior either signs when he's drafted or gets paid peanuts as a senior. If Frey is a top 5 round pick, he's not coming back and unless he cares nothing about money
Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
Member since Sep 2008
69258 posts
Posted on 6/11/25 at 1:13 pm to
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What is overblown is the amount of money people think baseball players are getting in NIL..

x100000
Posted by moneyg
Member since Jun 2006
59735 posts
Posted on 6/11/25 at 1:13 pm to
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Why do you think him coming back is best? Im guessing you dont realize he’ll lose all financial leverage as a senior. And lose a year of age that teams very much care about.


Any guess as to what kind of signing bonus he will get?

Posted by josh336
baton rouge
Member since Jan 2007
80681 posts
Posted on 6/11/25 at 1:14 pm to
Depends where he is drafted, prob in the neighborhood of 500k
Posted by ProjectP2294
South St. Louis city
Member since May 2007
74308 posts
Posted on 6/11/25 at 1:14 pm to
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Any guess as to what kind of signing bonus he will get?


Somewhere over $400k is my amateur guess.
Posted by moneyg
Member since Jun 2006
59735 posts
Posted on 6/11/25 at 1:16 pm to
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The only way he comes back is if teams are leery of his injury history and that causes him to slide down passed the point where NIL could realistically be more than a signing bonus.


What do you think his draft position is assuming his injury history isn’t a concern?
Posted by Lester Earl
3rd Ward
Member since Nov 2003
285297 posts
Posted on 6/11/25 at 1:17 pm to
I think he will get between $500k-$700k
Posted by notbilly
alter
Member since Sep 2015
6263 posts
Posted on 6/11/25 at 2:03 pm to
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name a junior who chose to come back because of an NIL package. I'll wait.


As someone else pointed out, NIL is still new and that is especially new in college baseball. I don't know if it's happening yet, but it will eventually.

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Same shite with Herring last year "he can just take an NIL package...he needs to prove he can be a starter...he can make more money by coming back." Flash forward...he signed for almost $900k and is crushing it as a starter in AA

Herring signed for $797,500, and his slot value was $339,600. That isn't the norm. He had more leverage than usual b/c he was a sophomore, plus he was promised a spot in the starting rotation if he returned to LSU. The Yankees had to go way above slot to get him. Smart move on their part.
Posted by AkronTiger
Rubber City
Member since May 2021
2387 posts
Posted on 6/11/25 at 2:05 pm to
He's a junior who loses leverage after this season. He's likely gone.
Posted by Tigerfan1274
Member since May 2019
4087 posts
Posted on 6/11/25 at 2:09 pm to
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As someone else pointed out, NIL is still new and that is especially new in college baseball. I don't know if it's happening yet, but it will eventually.


NIL is not going to help with the age aspect in this. Vast majority of guys are simply not going to want to start their pro careers at 22 when the overwhelming majority are starting at 21. This a real component in returning to school or not, even for draft eligible sophomores who are already 21 at draft time.
Posted by notbilly
alter
Member since Sep 2015
6263 posts
Posted on 6/11/25 at 2:19 pm to
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NIL is not going to help with the age aspect in this. Vast majority of guys are simply not going to want to start their pro careers at 22 when the overwhelming majority are starting at 21. This a real component in returning to school or not, even for draft eligible sophomores who are already 21 at draft time.


Vast Majority? sure. But Jared Jones is on this team b/c he was able to get an NIL deal. He had a bonus number that he told teams he needed in order to leave LSU. That number needed to exceed what he was promised in NIL.
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