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re: ESPN - Shady's Bar employees: "Victims threw first punch"

Posted on 8/25/11 at 11:04 pm to
Posted by Antonio Moss
The South
Member since Mar 2006
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Posted on 8/25/11 at 11:04 pm to
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Right there is where I know your full of shite.


Your world . . . .

I want to live in it.
Posted by dreaux
baton rouge
Member since Oct 2006
40882 posts
Posted on 8/25/11 at 11:04 pm to
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Do you mean insurance liability?
Posted by ProjectP2294
West St. Louis County
Member since May 2007
78479 posts
Posted on 8/25/11 at 11:04 pm to
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Right there is where I know your full of shite.


not too quick on the uptake are you?
Posted by USMCTiger03
Member since Sep 2007
71176 posts
Posted on 8/25/11 at 11:05 pm to
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im not buying he was knocked out considering right after the fight he is posing for pics
I forget where the knocked our thing came from. It wasn't mention in the police report.
Posted by bmy
Nashville
Member since Oct 2007
48203 posts
Posted on 8/25/11 at 11:05 pm to
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I forget where the knocked our thing came from. It wasn't mention in the police report.


It came after the fact. Probably once the douche realized he had no serious injuries.
Posted by Wild Thang
YAW YAW Fooball Nation
Member since Jun 2009
44181 posts
Posted on 8/25/11 at 11:06 pm to
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you seem like good people, even if you are an Auburn fan and a deadly sin.



Which part in the movie was that one?
Posted by tigerskin
Member since Nov 2004
46727 posts
Posted on 8/25/11 at 11:06 pm to
Posted by ninthward
Boston, MA
Member since May 2007
22751 posts
Posted on 8/25/11 at 11:06 pm to
So the cops are doing all of this because captain America said he.started the fight? Uh no
The statement was he went to rescue a fellow embattled American
.nope not anymore third party witness,one with its own interest to protect called Lowery the instigator
Kick to the head irrelevant now Lowery is indeed a toxic witness
Posted by tigerskin
Member since Nov 2004
46727 posts
Posted on 8/25/11 at 11:06 pm to
You mean once he talked to his attorney.
Posted by dreaux
baton rouge
Member since Oct 2006
40882 posts
Posted on 8/25/11 at 11:07 pm to
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Just because the "victims" are now being reported as "throwing the first punch," doesn't mean players won't be charged. If someone is getting kicked while on the ground...that's a battery. The force is excessive, regardless of whether the guy on the ground hit first.

Bottom line, though: Too many conflicting stories. Unsympathetic victims. And the burden of proof at trial is beyond a reasonable doubt...that means every element of the offense. I don't practice law in Louisiana, but I'm sure there exists a disorderly conduct statute that probably uses language like "brawling or fighting." The DA can charge anyone he is certain was involved in the fight...players and victims, alike. Offer all Defendants to plead as charged (with the opportunity to amend the charges to battery--felony or otherwise--in the DA's back pocket if anyone wants to fight it). Let everybody fight out the restitution, medical, dental, and other bills in a civil setting. Call it a day.

It's too public to not file something. Disorderly (or whatever Louisiana calls their disorderly statute) sounds like a weak charge to the public considering the allegations against the players, but if he plays up the fact that disordely conduct covers this kind of activity (blame the legislature for passing such weak laws regarding bar fighting), and that there wasn't sufficient evidence to go forward with more severe charges, maybe it will be acceptable to reasonable minds. Fact of it is...there are a lot of places in Louisiana and across this country where nothing would have been filed because the DA can't expect to go to a jury and receive a guilty verdict with the current facts.







i have said from the beginning that this will not end up in criminal court. It will go to civil and he won't get a dime unless he can somehow sue the school.
Posted by USMCTiger03
Member since Sep 2007
71176 posts
Posted on 8/25/11 at 11:07 pm to
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Which is why we have 34907 marines and their family members trashing JJ's fan page?
That was pretty shitty.
Posted by jrodLSUke
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Posted on 8/25/11 at 11:07 pm to
This post was edited on 8/25/11 at 11:08 pm
Posted by bmy
Nashville
Member since Oct 2007
48203 posts
Posted on 8/25/11 at 11:07 pm to
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You mean once he talked to his attorney.


Exactly. He went back in to the hospital right after his meeting with his lawyer
Posted by redstick13
Lower Saxony
Member since Feb 2007
40874 posts
Posted on 8/25/11 at 11:07 pm to
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You know I'm just sitting here thinking about what the reaction of all those outraged marines will be when JJ is cleared and Lowery is charged...


We want our thumbs!
Posted by graychef
Member since Jun 2008
30517 posts
Posted on 8/25/11 at 11:08 pm to
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Which is why we have 34907 marines and their family members trashing JJ's fan page?


Apparently, there was some mass e-mail sent with a paragraph from the WAFB report indicating a marine was beaten by LSU football players. JJ's name has been on this whole thing, so naturally they go to his page to trash him.
Posted by Statestreet
Gueydan
Member since Sep 2008
13901 posts
Posted on 8/25/11 at 11:08 pm to
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Posted by tigerskin
The more I think about it, I really can't believe this guy is pressing charges that somebody kicked him when he started a fight.




Andrew STARTED the fight And got his arse handed to him. If he had won the fight then he wouldnt have pressed charges
Posted by hubris
Member since Aug 2011
427 posts
Posted on 8/25/11 at 11:09 pm to
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LOL you guys are really rallying tonight. Can't wait to see how you guys act when the rest of the police investigation progress gets released tomorrow

Typical Bammer response when they lose ground in an argument.



Same goes to this guy:

Elcid96
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Right there is where I know your full of shite.

That is all you needed to say.

hahahahahahhahahahahahahahaha
Posted by dreaux
baton rouge
Member since Oct 2006
40882 posts
Posted on 8/25/11 at 11:09 pm to
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It came after the fact. Probably once the douche realized he had no serious injuries.


ding ding! People always tell the truth lol

What does he have to lose NOTHING.
Posted by ProjectP2294
West St. Louis County
Member since May 2007
78479 posts
Posted on 8/25/11 at 11:09 pm to
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Which part in the movie was that one?


The only part of that movie I saw was "What's in the boxxxxxxx?"
Posted by TheLittleAristotle
On my couch absorbing MFP 3:16
Member since Feb 2006
3909 posts
Posted on 8/25/11 at 11:09 pm to
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I just want an official Apology from Doucet.


speaking of doucet and wafb, how did they handle the stalking/restraining order news?
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