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re: ESPN - Shady's Bar employees: "Victims threw first punch"
Posted on 8/25/11 at 10:30 pm to tigerskin
Posted on 8/25/11 at 10:30 pm to tigerskin
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So there we have it. JJ kicked the douche that threw the first punch. Guy isn't seriously hurt. Case closed.
unless the guy the kicked the douche isn't jj and jj is the one that pulled the guy out of the truck.
Which i don't see JJ doing. Dude has never done anything like this at all.
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Posted on 8/25/11 at 10:30 pm to Elcid96
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Now you are just coming off as a butt hurt little bitch...Just stop
quote:I don't know any of you but you are still coming off arse a little bitch..Sorry
Just cause you think a retarded Rant attorney who tries to hold trial on the rant and make claims against evidence he has never seen...is awesome..that is you getting your butt an feelings hurt..anyone who has to yell I M A frickING ATTORNEY ON THE RANT..tells me he hasn't been practicing long and comes on the rant to stroke his ego to the fools who think he know what the frick he is talking about. I am guessing he has been out of law school for may be a year.
And trust me I know Nathan and this clown is no Nathan.
Posted on 8/25/11 at 10:31 pm to graychef
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According to him. Yes. I guess it's in that video somewhere.
After watching it -- I see him get kicked, stand up, and walk off. To any lawyers.. how do you prove that someone was knocked unconscious if he wasn't sprawled out on the ground.. I can't imagine a victims word being enough.
This post was edited on 8/25/11 at 10:32 pm
Posted on 8/25/11 at 10:31 pm to ProjectP2294
Cracked vertabrae could be his tailbone/arse if he got cold cocked and fell straight down.
Posted on 8/25/11 at 10:32 pm to Antonio Moss
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Loss of consciousness is enough to warrant a 2nd degree charge. Lowery claimed loss of consciousness.
I'm not declaring whether its true or not.
my bad. Still loss of consciousness is subjective and refutable. Not saying it didn't happen of course, but it is far from fact.
Posted on 8/25/11 at 10:32 pm to Cadello
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Cracked Vertebrae looks more like a stomp injury than a kick in the head injury.
Actually, the type that gets your released from the ER in two hours in more likely due to compression - as in falling on your arse on concrete.
Posted on 8/25/11 at 10:32 pm to bmy
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After watching it -- I see him get kicked, stand up, and walk off.
I know there's an extended video, but the main portion is only a few seconds long. Can you be unconscious for only a few seconds?
Posted on 8/25/11 at 10:32 pm to ProjectP2294
I've been at a fantasy draft party and just saw this thread. Has TigrLEE jumped yet? I missed the news, too.
Posted on 8/25/11 at 10:32 pm to ColdDuck
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Cracked vertabrae could be his tailbone/arse if he got cold cocked and fell straight down.
Exactly!
Posted on 8/25/11 at 10:33 pm to ProjectP2294
If Lowery threw the first punch would he not be the one charged with simple battery? The defender was acting in self defense to the first blow.
Posted on 8/25/11 at 10:33 pm to Cadello
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I'd be willing to bet anyone $100 he doesnt, right now.
I think Miles may have to do this from a PR standpoint FWIW.
Posted on 8/25/11 at 10:33 pm to graychef
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I know there's an extended video, but the main portion is only a few seconds long. Can you be unconscious for only a few seconds?
Sure, but I don't see any legit way to prove that unless you can test for it in the hospital -- something I have never heard of. You may be able to see that he has a concussion but that does not indicate the loss of consciousness.
This post was edited on 8/25/11 at 10:34 pm
Posted on 8/25/11 at 10:33 pm to LJGFORMVP
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didnt lowery get knocked unconscious?
According to him, but it surely didn't look like it on the video. That was more clear than telling if he was kicked and by whom.
Posted on 8/25/11 at 10:34 pm to bmy
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After watching it -- I see him get kicked, stand up, and walk off. To any lawyers.. how do you prove that someone was knocked unconscious if he wasn't sprawled out on the ground.. I can't imagine a victims word being enough.
I saw it too. even the worst attorney could have a felon with 2 strikes plea this down to simple lol
Posted on 8/25/11 at 10:34 pm to Cash
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wait wait wait. the guy kicked isn't the guy with the cracked vertebrae?
correct
Serious Clark?
Well frick. How did the cracked Vertebra happen?
Posted on 8/25/11 at 10:34 pm to tc5140
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If Lowery threw the first punch would he not be the one charged with simple battery? The defender was acting in self defense to the first blow.
Yes, he could. I hope that after this stink is finished he will be charged and convicted.
Posted on 8/25/11 at 10:34 pm to dreaux
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my bad. Still loss of consciousness is subjective and refutable. Not saying it didn't happen of course, but it is far from fact.
i'd just about guarantee there is a neurological test that can detect head trauma and whether someone shows signs of recently losing consciousness
Posted on 8/25/11 at 10:34 pm to Cadello
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I'd be willing to bet anyone $100 he doesnt, right now.
You're making Doc nervous
Posted on 8/25/11 at 10:34 pm to bmy
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Sure, but I don't see any legit way to prove that unless you can test for it in the hospital -- something I have never heard of. You may be able to see that he has a concussion but that does not indicate the loss of consciousness.
Yeah, that's what I'm getting at here. If he was unconscious during the video, it's almost impossible to prove because everything happened so fast.
Posted on 8/25/11 at 10:34 pm to Antonio Moss
quote:Trauma person said this 2 days ago on here.
Actually, the type that gets your released from the ER in two hours in more likely due to compression - as in falling on your arse on concrete.
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