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re: Eric Reid takes a knee....on Veterans Day weekend
Posted on 11/13/17 at 3:16 pm to Lsuismyfav
Posted on 11/13/17 at 3:16 pm to Lsuismyfav
quote:
Protesting is very patriotic
I am not the one protesting
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Posted on 11/13/17 at 3:17 pm to Lsuismyfav
So you don’t think people can genuinely be offended by someone kneeling during the anthem? I guess you and I were raised differently which is fine. I used to notice people that didn’t take their hat off or were talking and thought that was disrespectful.
But continue with your narrative....
But continue with your narrative....
Posted on 11/13/17 at 3:17 pm to old man tiger
Air Force Member protecting Reid's safe place.
Posted on 11/13/17 at 3:19 pm to Run DMC
You should realize that most of those guys have an IQ about equivalent to that of the football they toss around. Most have no clue as to why they're kneeling. Seriously, it's monkey see, monkey do.
Posted on 11/13/17 at 3:28 pm to Run DMC
I’m not reading this whole thread, but I hope at some point somebody pointed out that this fellow is following his conscience. You are choosing to be offended because you interpret it as disrespectful to the troops. It doesn’t have anything to do with that. He’s not being disrespectful to the troops anymore than he’s being disrespectful to blueberry pancakes or laundromats. It has nothing to do with troops. It is and always has been a protest about people of color and their interactions with law-enforcement.
This guy is doing what he thinks is right, because of his religious beliefs. He is by the way doing this sort of charitable works you say he should be doing instead of this, not that he gets any credit for that. It is disheartening but not at all surprising to see you so called LSU fans denigrate the person who was a great tiger for following his conscience and peacefully protesting in a way that harms no one and does not intend disrespect to the flag, the troops or anything of the kind.
It’s also not surprising that of the relatively few comments that I did read, the ones that try to make similar points were flooded with down votes, so go ahead. Maybe at some point it will occur to some of you that if anyone is dishonoring the sacrifice of our brave soldiers and Marines, it’s the people who devalue the freedom that they fought and died for.
This guy is doing what he thinks is right, because of his religious beliefs. He is by the way doing this sort of charitable works you say he should be doing instead of this, not that he gets any credit for that. It is disheartening but not at all surprising to see you so called LSU fans denigrate the person who was a great tiger for following his conscience and peacefully protesting in a way that harms no one and does not intend disrespect to the flag, the troops or anything of the kind.
It’s also not surprising that of the relatively few comments that I did read, the ones that try to make similar points were flooded with down votes, so go ahead. Maybe at some point it will occur to some of you that if anyone is dishonoring the sacrifice of our brave soldiers and Marines, it’s the people who devalue the freedom that they fought and died for.
Posted on 11/13/17 at 3:33 pm to swlaLSUfan
The protest is fine but could & would be MUCH better rec'd in actual communities where violence is rampant.
The original protest by Kap included "pig" socks and THAT is my issue.
Change can only come when both sides come together & actually listen. Disrespecting the Anthem & Flag isn't the way.
The original protest by Kap included "pig" socks and THAT is my issue.
Change can only come when both sides come together & actually listen. Disrespecting the Anthem & Flag isn't the way.
Posted on 11/13/17 at 3:33 pm to TDcline
I am an old Korean vet so he can stick it where the sun don't shine!!!
Posted on 11/13/17 at 3:39 pm to lsusteve1
quote:
Change can only come when both sides come together & actually listen. Disrespecting the Anthem & Flag isn't the way.
Amen brother
Posted on 11/13/17 at 3:45 pm to Run DMC
Man y'all a bunch of snowflakes...
So damn sensitive
So damn sensitive
Posted on 11/13/17 at 3:50 pm to LSUinMA
Terrorists are following their conscience too.
So that’s an acceptable excuse now?
So that’s an acceptable excuse now?
This post was edited on 11/13/17 at 3:51 pm
Posted on 11/13/17 at 3:52 pm to lsusteve1
True. Without realizing it they've damaged the very cause they are representing.
If you want change go to where the problem is. Meet with the police and the communities. Host town halls with both and encourage a respectful exchange of grievances. Seek solutions. Even if they are doing these things, the divisiveness of the venue chosen to protest is drowning out the message.
If you want change go to where the problem is. Meet with the police and the communities. Host town halls with both and encourage a respectful exchange of grievances. Seek solutions. Even if they are doing these things, the divisiveness of the venue chosen to protest is drowning out the message.
Posted on 11/13/17 at 3:54 pm to The Mick
quote:
So you don’t think people can genuinely be offended by someone kneeling during the anthem? I guess you and I were raised differently which is fine. I used to notice people that didn’t take their hat off or were talking and thought that was disrespectful.
You can be offended by whatever you choose to. If someone tells you that the reason for you being offended is not their intent in something they are doing, how you move thereafter is on you. He met with a veteran to come up with a way to do it that would not be disrespectful and you know that. Yet you refuse to take him at his word. He has veterans in his family.
I'm disabled and make sure someone takes off my hat for the anthem. You're probably right, we were raised different.
Posted on 11/13/17 at 4:01 pm to ForeverEllisHugh
ThIs the anthem of a nation that is more introspective of its social problems than any other nation on earth and is continually trying to improve. TheUSA has made incredible strides in opportunity for all even though we still have a way to go. If the NFL cannot at least acknowledge this then I have no respect for the organization and will not support it.
Posted on 11/13/17 at 4:02 pm to Lsuismyfav
quote:He could also be back peddling on his reasoning but it really doesn't matter. Regardless of what his original intent was, it's still disrespectful. Just like when people are talking during the anthem - they're not talking about how shitty the country is and the military sucks. But, they're talking during the anthem. The very act of kneeling or talking during the anthem is disrespectful, intended or not.
You can be offended by whatever you choose to. If someone tells you that the reason for you being offended is not their intent in something they are doing, how you move thereafter is on you.
Posted on 11/13/17 at 4:04 pm to lsusteve1
quote:
The protest is fine but could & would be MUCH better rec'd in actual communities where violence is rampant.
If I posted articles showing that this is and has been happening for years, would you all stop posting this?
quote:
The original protest by Kap included "pig" socks and THAT is my issue.
I can understand and respect that.
quote:
Change can only come when both sides come together & actually listen. Disrespecting the Anthem & Flag isn't the way.
Then you bring up something that you know was not his intent.
The issue has been going on for years, what stopped both sides from coming together before this protest?
Posted on 11/13/17 at 4:07 pm to Run DMC
So fricking What, I'm a veteran I Don't Care!
Posted on 11/13/17 at 4:11 pm to The Mick
quote:
He could also be back peddling on his reasoning but it really doesn't matter. Regardless of what his original intent was, it's still disrespectful. Just like when people are talking during the anthem - they're not talking about how shitty the country is and the military sucks. But, they're talking during the anthem. The very act of kneeling or talking during the anthem is disrespectful, intended or not.
Thanks for being honest, it doesn't matter to you. The interpretation of it is more important to you than the actual intent.
Posted on 11/13/17 at 4:23 pm to Lsuismyfav
quote:Your reading comprehension isn't the best. I'm not interpreting anything. I'm saying regardless of the message/messenger, if you kneel during the anthem you're being disrespectful whether you're intending to or not. Where's in the interpretation in that?
Thanks for being honest, it doesn't matter to you. The interpretation of it is more important to you than the actual intent.
Whether I care about his protested issue or not is irrelevant to my point. (and I do care, but you've already made up your mind that anyone that thinks kneeling is disrespectful automatically doesn't care about police brutality). That is really ignorant.
Posted on 11/13/17 at 4:29 pm to P bean
While Reid is kneeling the fans are on their phones, yelling, fighting, not being quiet.
LINKEric Reid: Why Colin Kaepernick and I Decided to Take a Knee
LINK Baton Rouge Advocate Nov 12: Better way to handle NFL controversy
Those kneeling black athletes are the true American patriots. They represent the disproportionate number of african americans who have been jailed or killed by profiling, the war on drugs, income inequality, voter discrimination - like some banana republic:
1. Rising Income Inequality and Shrinking Middle Class
2. Unchecked Police Corruption and an Ever-Expanding Police State
3. Torture
4. Highest Incarceration Rate in the World: war on drugs, sentences for non-violent offenses longer than murder
5. Corrupt Alliance of Big Business and Big Government
6. High Unemployment
7. Inadequate Access to Healthcare
8. Lower Life Expectancy
9. Hunger and Malnutrition
10. High Infant Mortality
Trump has relentlessly harped on this putting pressure on the NFL to fire players. He is just throwing red meat to his base.
Senator McCain, the prisoner of war, who was held and tortured for five-and-a-half years in Vietnam, struck back at the president's attack on athletes who take a knee in protest.
"That’s their right to do what they want as citizens,”
McCain pointed out that Trump dodged the Draft 5 times by getting doctors to say he was unfit. When Trump says NFL players who kneel to protest police misconduct and social injustice are also disrespecting the flag and military, he’s not just being a hypocrite, he is deliberately confusing the issue and deceiving the public about black patriotism.
Unlike Trump, black men step forward, enlist, and serve our country at disproportionately high rates.
Amendment I. Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the government for a redress of grievances.
LINKEric Reid: Why Colin Kaepernick and I Decided to Take a Knee
quote:
In early 2016, I began paying attention to reports about the incredible number of unarmed black people being killed by the police. The posts on social media deeply disturbed me, but one in particular brought me to tears: the killing of Alton Sterling in my hometown Baton Rouge, La. This could have happened to any of my family members who still live in the area. I felt furious, hurt and hopeless. I wanted to do something, but didn’t know what or how to do it. All I knew for sure is that I wanted it to be as respectful as possible.
That’s when my faith moved me to take action. I looked to James 2:17, which states, “Faith by itself, if it does not have works, is dead.” I knew I needed to stand up for what is right.
LINK Baton Rouge Advocate Nov 12: Better way to handle NFL controversy
quote:
It appears to me that the players have been respectful. They do not make noise or rude gestures; instead, they kneel or sit quietly. They seem to be showing respect for our country and our Constitution, which allows individuals to speak out about matters perceived as injustice. This is exactly what differentiates our country from others such as Russia, where you can be arrested, jailed or killed for expressing displeasure with the government. Instead ours is government of the people, by the people, for the people.
Those kneeling black athletes are the true American patriots. They represent the disproportionate number of african americans who have been jailed or killed by profiling, the war on drugs, income inequality, voter discrimination - like some banana republic:
1. Rising Income Inequality and Shrinking Middle Class
2. Unchecked Police Corruption and an Ever-Expanding Police State
3. Torture
4. Highest Incarceration Rate in the World: war on drugs, sentences for non-violent offenses longer than murder
5. Corrupt Alliance of Big Business and Big Government
6. High Unemployment
7. Inadequate Access to Healthcare
8. Lower Life Expectancy
9. Hunger and Malnutrition
10. High Infant Mortality
Trump has relentlessly harped on this putting pressure on the NFL to fire players. He is just throwing red meat to his base.
Senator McCain, the prisoner of war, who was held and tortured for five-and-a-half years in Vietnam, struck back at the president's attack on athletes who take a knee in protest.
"That’s their right to do what they want as citizens,”
McCain pointed out that Trump dodged the Draft 5 times by getting doctors to say he was unfit. When Trump says NFL players who kneel to protest police misconduct and social injustice are also disrespecting the flag and military, he’s not just being a hypocrite, he is deliberately confusing the issue and deceiving the public about black patriotism.
Unlike Trump, black men step forward, enlist, and serve our country at disproportionately high rates.
Amendment I. Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the government for a redress of grievances.
Posted on 11/13/17 at 4:30 pm to Run DMC
This has to be a joke! If you don't like it don't watch it! Why subject yourself to something you don't like! Because he kneeing for change! Instead of crying how about his peaceful protest how about we come together because we know it's not about the military. And if you think he's the problem than your head is in the clouds or your part of the problem.. sorry not sorry
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