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re: Eric Reid takes a knee....on Veterans Day weekend

Posted on 11/13/17 at 2:01 pm to
Posted by old man tiger
Member since Feb 2009
2383 posts
Posted on 11/13/17 at 2:01 pm to
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Then Trump made a deal out of it, saying it was disrespecting the flag


Wrong it was already a big deal. Some sponsors had already cancelled their ads. I know of many including myself that cancelled their NFL direct tv ticket and direct tv gave me all my money back showing their support for our military. You can spin this any way you want, but you will be in the minority on this. And only for that one moment this will continue. There are a hell of a lot more patriots than not.
Posted by earl keese
A Thousand Miles from Nowhere
Member since Jan 2014
7029 posts
Posted on 11/13/17 at 2:08 pm to
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Put on a uniform homey and serve...then you might understand.


I served in the Navy during the tail end of the Vietnam war. I wouldn't take a knee during the national anthem but what some of them are doing isn't making me lose sleep at night.

Some of us served and fought to defend our nation and the rights that everyone is afforded. These players are peacefully protesting which they have the right to do.

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If you have served and feel this behavior is fine...shame on you.


Again, this isn't what I would do, but they aren't destroying property or lives with their protests

I'm personally more upset about protests where you have one group of people playing "army" carrying Nazi flags and shouting "Jews will not replace us" and then another group facing off with them and next thing you know, people are losing their lives.
Posted by Lsuismyfav
Kentwood, LA
Member since Mar 2007
1784 posts
Posted on 11/13/17 at 2:09 pm to
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Ooohhhhh I see. You got this all figured out huh? Do tell! What is this hidden agenda that everyone seems to have have?



It's evident in every thread about this. The narrative quickly changes to black on black crime, why don't they protest about crime in their community, blacks commit 50% of violent crimes, 1% of cops are bad, cops are not riding around looking to kill blacks, etc.... Most people that are offended by it, simply do not care about the issue. One of the hardest things to do is to convince someone to care about something that doesn’t affect them.
Posted by atltiger6487
Member since May 2011
20149 posts
Posted on 11/13/17 at 2:28 pm to
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How does protesting before kickoff interrupting the game? It has never affected the game for me.

they're inserting a political/social issue into a football game. Wrong place, wrong time. And that is most definitely an interruption.
Posted by Lsuismyfav
Kentwood, LA
Member since Mar 2007
1784 posts
Posted on 11/13/17 at 2:36 pm to
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they're inserting a political/social issue into a football game. Wrong place, wrong time. And that is most definitely an interruption.



The game is not played during the anthem. It does not interrupt the game. Only people that disagree with the issue feel the way you do. Do you think the pink socks are an interruption?
Posted by Tiger_Stripes
New Orleans
Member since Apr 2013
903 posts
Posted on 11/13/17 at 2:39 pm to
Bunch of pissy-arse snowflakes in here.
Posted by old man tiger
Member since Feb 2009
2383 posts
Posted on 11/13/17 at 2:40 pm to
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Only people that disagree with the issue feel the way you do. Do you think the pink socks are an interruption?


Interruption is not the word here, disrespect is the word. And there are many that feel this way. NFL is already feeling the crunch of the many patriotic americans who do not want anyone to disrespect this country.
Posted by Tiger_Stripes
New Orleans
Member since Apr 2013
903 posts
Posted on 11/13/17 at 2:41 pm to
It's not yours you little bitch
Posted by The Mick
Member since Oct 2010
45120 posts
Posted on 11/13/17 at 2:47 pm to
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One of the hardest things to do is to convince someone to care about something that doesn’t affect them.
And disrespecting the USA in the process makes it even tougher. He fricked up by choosing to protest during a moment that is reserved for honoring and respecting the flag and country. He tried to be controversial, and he got what he wanted.
Posted by Lsuismyfav
Kentwood, LA
Member since Mar 2007
1784 posts
Posted on 11/13/17 at 2:52 pm to
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Interruption is not the word here, disrespect is the word. And there are many that feel this way. NFL is already feeling the crunch of the many patriotic americans who do not want anyone to disrespect this country.



The "My interpretation of you protesting during the Anthem offends me" argument is so idiotic. He told you what it is about and what it's not about many times, how you react to it says a lot about you.
Posted by GeauxTigerTM
Member since Sep 2006
30596 posts
Posted on 11/13/17 at 2:56 pm to
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And this freedom you speak of was given to you by men and women of all races who fought for this freedom.


No...it wasn't given to me by them. It was certainly protected by their actions, but certainly not given by.

BTW...why say "freedom" like that, as if it's a dirty word?

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The least a person can do is show some respect for that one damn moment.


You can't force someone to respect you, or anything else, can you? People will either show respect or not...or they may show respect to something you personally don't respect while not showing respect to something you do. would you want compulsory respect to be shown to you, by the way? Is it REALLY respect if it's forced?

No...what you can do is handle YOURSELF in a matter that you find appropriate, and allow for others to do as they please. My respect for any number of things is not effected in any way by someone else's lack of respect for the same thing. I don't need everyone, regardless of the thing in question, to all gather in lock step agreement for me to be happy.

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Those men and women would appreciate it very much.


With all due respect to them, it's not their call to make. They do not have the authority to demand respect, and I ask again...if you're to the point of having to demand it, is it real in the first place and what do you gain by forcing it? A show of will?

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And if they can't do this simple thing of standing for the anthem, then I have no time for them or anyone who supports their disrespecting gesture.


Understood. I not only disagree with your position, but I take the position that it is just as asinine a position as the various left wing positions so many people rightfully look at and declare snowflakey in their desire for offense. I'm sure you feel you're right...just as I'm sure most of those folks feel they're right. I'm simply not moved by either side's declaration that their being offended by something should matter to me in any way.
Posted by Lsuismyfav
Kentwood, LA
Member since Mar 2007
1784 posts
Posted on 11/13/17 at 2:57 pm to
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And disrespecting the USA in the process makes it even tougher. He fricked up by choosing to protest during a moment that is reserved for honoring and respecting the flag and country. He tried to be controversial, and he got what he wanted.



If you say it and hear it enough, eventually it will become truth to you. Propaganda at it's finest.
Posted by The Mick
Member since Oct 2010
45120 posts
Posted on 11/13/17 at 2:58 pm to
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If you say it and hear it enough, eventually it will become truth to you. Propaganda at it's finest.
What do you mean?
Posted by Hugo Stiglitz
Member since Oct 2010
72937 posts
Posted on 11/13/17 at 2:59 pm to
Give me a fricking break, a good section of NFL players have a criminal record and no one says a word about them.




Eric Reid is a good man and a great player.

You snowflakes need to grow the frick up.


Posted by old man tiger
Member since Feb 2009
2383 posts
Posted on 11/13/17 at 3:00 pm to
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how you react to it says a lot about you.


Yes myself and many others are very patriotic and appreciate the people who gave us this freedom to say and protest what and when you want to. does not mean we have to like the when you want to part. And how I react to it does say a lot about me. How you react to it says a lot about you was well.
Posted by lakelanier
Member since Oct 2014
1017 posts
Posted on 11/13/17 at 3:03 pm to
He along with Odell have taken this to extremes and it self absorbed behavior. Do something in communities that need help.
Posted by RedTigerRulz
BFE
Member since Oct 2013
15317 posts
Posted on 11/13/17 at 3:04 pm to
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. I wouldn't take a knee during the national anthem but what some of them are doing isn't making me lose sleep at night.


Point taken...I'm not losing sleep over it.

I do think its hilarious that the dumbass that started this stupidity is currently unemployed and considered toxic by most of the owners.
Posted by Lsuismyfav
Kentwood, LA
Member since Mar 2007
1784 posts
Posted on 11/13/17 at 3:07 pm to
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What do you mean?



You know it's not about disrespecting the flag, country, or military, it's been said so much that it has become truth to you. It's ok to say that you don't care about the issues they are protesting about. When your wife brings up a conversation that you don't care to discuss, do you change the subject or you deal with it?
Posted by Lsuismyfav
Kentwood, LA
Member since Mar 2007
1784 posts
Posted on 11/13/17 at 3:12 pm to
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Yes myself and many others are very patriotic and appreciate the people who gave us this freedom to say and protest what and when you want to. does not mean we have to like the when you want to part. And how I react to it does say a lot about me. How you react to it says a lot about you was well.





Protesting is very patriotic.
Posted by old man tiger
Member since Feb 2009
2383 posts
Posted on 11/13/17 at 3:15 pm to
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you don't care about the issues they are protesting about


this was not directed towards me, but since we have been engaged in conversation I feel that this was directed at me. Many people care about the issues that faces minorities. I know I do. There again when you piss off so many people with the disrespect of the national anthem, you turn off a lot of people who have been donating to certain causes or who have been very active in helping to mold disadvantaged youth. You are on the wrong side here with your argument. One that you cannot win either. You can spin this any way you want to but it is a bark with no bite at all.
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