re: Elite program?

and true

funny thing is i keep hearing they have a top 3 program. yeah they are ranked in the top 3 this year but lsu, uf, and uga all have been the better program the past decade. Not to mention you have to throw in osu, ut, usc, and ou before you can even mention bama.

and to the saban lovers, we were not considered elite until after he left.

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I think they are a elite program now

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Sorry, I just don't get where a year and a half makes a team elite.....10-2 and lost their last 2 games...THE very 2 games that would have caused them to possibly be called "elite"--and they LOST them....Now, we're only part of the way through the year. Can we at least wait until the year is up to see if they even make the SEC championship game....or even win a bowl game...or even finished ranked in the top 10?

firefighter, do you know them?

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'Bama under Saban has climbed back into elite status. UGA may actually fall off the elite plateau if they don't right the ship pretty quick.

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I follow your thinking somewhat, and they may be like ships passing in different directions, but you do know that at least Ga. has actually won an SEC title lately.

Bama currently has ZERO wins in BCS bowls and their last bowl victory was the Indepence Bowl.

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lsu82bill, isnt that what this site is for? I am stating my opinion and i really dont care if u agree or not.

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Well then maybe you just don't understand the meaning of the word "elite". There are plenty of schools that haven't won championships in the last few years that most college football experts would consider, within the context of historical record, prestige, great former players, top facilities, the abiity to attract top recruits, the willingness of bowl committees to extend an invitation, the willingness of TV networks to put that school on national TV....to be "elite" programs. If you thinks schools like Boise State and Oregon and Oklahoma State are "elite" schools because or recent success and schools like Alabama, Notre Dame, Michigan, Florida State are not....so be it.

Meh, you got Nicky, you're elite.

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saying bama is currently elite because of (distant) past titles is like calling egypt a modern super power because of the pyramids.


No, b/c unlike Egypt, Bama was 12-2 last year, undeafeted so far this year, has a great coach, and has been recruiting lights out.

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Yet, Bama still only has one bowl victory in the past two years and it was a close one. Finished 7-6 that year.

Yet, the remarkable run last year produced no SEC titles, no crystal balls and not even a BCS bowl victory play a non-BCS conference team.

We are all trying to agree upon a definition of elite team. If a college team has not won a couple of conference titles, been in 1-2 BCS championship games, nor won a couple of upper tier bowl games over the past ten years, then I say you are not elite. A team might have a storied history in college football but not an elite team of today.

Is Bama close this year, yes. Just about as close as they were last year.

if your definition of elite is championships then there are only a very few in all of college football. do you think lsu has been an elite program? until saban took over they were a middle of the pack team in the west so by your definition they have been an elite program for what 6 or 7 years?