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re: Eades should start tomorrow

Posted on 5/23/12 at 4:44 pm to
Posted by Honkus
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Posted on 5/23/12 at 4:44 pm to
Just saying, what's the difference in starting for 2 innings & him getting in his normal bullpen session? This also sets Nola up for this wknd & next. Hell we threw Johnny Allstaff & still came w/i one run of beating the hottest team & a top 3 pitcher in the country.

I'm no CPM apologist, been very critical of him at times; but I think he (& Alan dunn) got this one right. Sorry for being such an insufferable prick
Posted by LSU316
Rice and Easy Baby!!!
Member since Nov 2007
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Posted on 5/23/12 at 4:47 pm to
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Mainieri plan was perfect


Not perfect but it was the best he could do at this point in this tournament especially given the fact that rain moved Gausman to pitch Friday instead of Saturday last week......I think if Gausman would have pitched that normal start on Thursday against USC then he probably would have went today.
Posted by LoneStarTiger
Lone Star State
Member since Aug 2004
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Posted on 5/23/12 at 4:52 pm to
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This also sets Nola up for this wknd & next.


which I already acknowledged as a great point

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Hell we threw Johnny Allstaff & still came w/i one run of beating the hottest team & a top 3 pitcher in the country. I'm no CPM apologist, been very critical of him at times; but I think he (& Alan dunn) got this one right. Sorry for being such an insufferable prick


meh, no worries

would have been great if it worked out
Posted by Broski
Member since Jun 2011
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Posted on 5/23/12 at 4:55 pm to
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would have been great if it worked out


How do you know it didn't?

You're whole problem in this thread is that you are thinking small picture here. What if, because we didn't burn any arms today, we are able to win the next 2 games and face MSU in the semifinals with a rested starter while they have to throw out their mediocre midweek starter because they burned out all their weekend arms?
Posted by moneyg
Member since Jun 2006
63295 posts
Posted on 5/23/12 at 5:00 pm to
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Posted by MOT You throw Gausman so he doesn't go two weeks without pitching.


Correct.
Posted by LSU316
Rice and Easy Baby!!!
Member since Nov 2007
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Posted on 5/23/12 at 5:00 pm to
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face MSU in the semifinals with a rested starter while they have to throw out their mediocre midweek starter because they burned out all their weekend arms?


Probably going to beat UK with Graveman and have Pollorena available for the championship game.

ETA stupid format you are right Pollorena would go in semis and they would have to throw someone that doesn't have a lot of starts on Sunday.
This post was edited on 5/23/12 at 5:04 pm
Posted by LoneStarTiger
Lone Star State
Member since Aug 2004
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Posted on 5/23/12 at 5:02 pm to
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How do you know it didn't?


we lost

quote:

You're whole problem in this thread is that you are thinking small picture here. What if, because we didn't burn any arms today, we are able to win the next 2 games and face MSU in the semifinals with a rested starter while they have to throw out their mediocre midweek starter because they burned out all their weekend arms?


I've already stated that I have a problem with "giving up" a game. I know that sometimes, in the long run, it may be the best option. Just my nature, I suppose. And I know that throwing the entire staff is in no way conceding this game, and outside Bonvillian, they pitched very well.

Maybe I'm just being an argumentative prick because we lost.
Posted by moneyg
Member since Jun 2006
63295 posts
Posted on 5/23/12 at 5:03 pm to
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don't be a dick actually, I'm being facetious, because I don't agree with pulling Nola today after just 2 easy innings. The general line of reasoning is that was done because these games arent important. I disagree with that thinking, I like to see players and coaches go into every game with a sense of urgency. Honkus has made the only good points I've seen in this thread, that Nola will be ready for this Sunday and more importantly Regional Sunday, and Gausman needs to get work anyways (MOT said the same). I guess had the bats come through it wouldn't matter.


Nola's outing today was a replacement for his bullpen session. There was never a chance that they were going to extend him. Try to see the big picture.

Posted by sunnydaze
Member since Jan 2010
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Posted on 5/23/12 at 5:04 pm to
You all are overreacting
Posted by LSU316
Rice and Easy Baby!!!
Member since Nov 2007
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Posted on 5/23/12 at 5:05 pm to
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Try to see the big picture.


Thats not easy it took me a minute to see it .....I think the 3-2 leaves a bitter taste in peoples mouths....if it would have been 10-2 then I think it would be easier to swallow for some reason.
Posted by Honkus
Member since Aug 2005
58083 posts
Posted on 5/23/12 at 5:12 pm to
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You're whole problem in this thread is that you are thinking small picture here. What if, because we didn't burn any arms today, we are able to win the next 2 games and face MSU in the semifinals with a rested starter while they have to throw out their mediocre midweek starter because they burned out all their weekend arms?



Spot on

Posted by therick711
South
Member since Jan 2008
26135 posts
Posted on 5/23/12 at 5:15 pm to
Because a win moves you on in a double elimination tournament and the effect is immediate. Some in this thread are attempting to evaluate the efficacy of the strategy on what if it works to perfection and we win out.

Someone could just as easily say what if we won today and won out. The strategy by PM was correct regardless of result. No need to press someone in short rest in a game that is likely meaningless. Wins and losses here are immaterial and Gausman will get his work tomorrow.
Posted by Broski
Member since Jun 2011
81863 posts
Posted on 5/23/12 at 5:21 pm to
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Because a win moves you on in a double elimination tournament and the effect is immediate. Some in this thread are attempting to evaluate the efficacy of the strategy on what if it works to perfection and we win out.


It's called playing the odds without risking much.

If we were on the bubble like we have been the past 3 years, you can bet your life that we would have seen Gausman on the bump today. But, because we already have a favorable resume, this game doesn't have that same urgency. With those circumstances, Mainieri obviously weighed the pros and cons and decided that it was more important to give his weekend rotation an extra day of rest.

It works two-fold. 1) our rotation roughly stays on the same schedule 2) If we are fortunate enough to win the next two games, we enter the semi finals with a rested rotation.
Posted by therick711
South
Member since Jan 2008
26135 posts
Posted on 5/23/12 at 5:22 pm to
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It's called playing the odds without risking much.

If we were on the bubble like we have been the past 3 years, you can bet your life that we would have seen Gausman on the bump today. But, because we already have a favorable resume, this game doesn't have that same urgency. With those circumstances, Mainieri obviously weighed the pros and cons and decided that it was more important to give his weekend rotation an extra day of rest.

It works two-fold. 1) our rotation roughly stays on the same schedule 2) If we are fortunate enough to win the next two games, we enter the semi finals with a rested rotation.


quote:

The strategy by PM was correct regardless of result.
Posted by TheLoupGarou
Benton, LA
Member since Oct 2010
1256 posts
Posted on 5/23/12 at 6:26 pm to
No problem here.
LSU will beat OM tomorrow like an ugly stepchild, and take care of business from there. If they don't win the SEC tourney, it's no big deal...not like we haven't done that before.
We just need to have our A-game finely tuned when the NCAA tournament begins.
Posted by TigerCub
Team Boxtard
Member since May 2006
22744 posts
Posted on 5/23/12 at 8:00 pm to
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People don't remember how shitty Georgia played down the stretch in 2008 and still got a national seed because they won the SEC.


Very true. They lost their last series, went 0-2 in Hoover and had an RPI worse than what we will have.
Posted by LoneStarTiger
Lone Star State
Member since Aug 2004
16506 posts
Posted on 5/23/12 at 10:41 pm to
After getting over the irritability caused by losing and the frustration of seeing our "fans" start bitching that the game was over as soon as we went down a run, I think I'm ready to admit I may have been a bit over the top with my sarcasm and facetiousness in this thread.

All in all I think the staff did a great job today, and we should bounce back nicely from here on out

Geaux to hell Ole Miss

This post was edited on 5/23/12 at 10:45 pm
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