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re: Dylan needs to get it going.Struggling again in AAA.Not good

Posted on 4/3/26 at 4:46 pm to
Posted by Dead Mike
Cell Block 4
Member since Mar 2010
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Posted on 4/3/26 at 4:46 pm to
Also, I think Young’s numbers were hovering around Crews for most of the year last year. I think that the outlook for Crews is not great compared to his success in college and his draft spot, but there is probably a reason why the front office and development staff were turned over this past offseason.
Posted by Tigrdynasty
19th hole
Member since Jun 2018
3317 posts
Posted on 4/3/26 at 4:59 pm to
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The amount of absolutism going on in this thread


You call it absolutism. I say it's an opinion. Is this not a place for us to share and discuss opinions? I hope mine is wrong in this case
Posted by friendlyobservation
Member since Mar 2024
5121 posts
Posted on 4/3/26 at 6:07 pm to
Langford turned out pretty good behind Crews. It's crazy that Crews had the safest pick to be successful in MLB and he's struggling right now. I absolutely think he can still put it all together there's no way his talent is going to prevent him from figuring it out. He's too good. Hitting is always an adjustment for young guys in MLB. He'll figure it out.
Posted by TigerBait2008
Boulder,CO
Member since Jun 2008
40491 posts
Posted on 4/3/26 at 6:29 pm to
But but but youre a moron.
Posted by JoeyP239
Member since Nov 2025
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Posted on 4/3/26 at 11:21 pm to
Dude went to ChatGPT lol…..Find me one top 5 college pick that OPS’ed under 700 in his first 2 seasons and turned into a good player. You’ll be pretty hard pressed to find anyone that fits that description
Posted by RB10
Member since Nov 2010
52149 posts
Posted on 4/3/26 at 11:25 pm to
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Dude went to ChatGPT lol…..Find me one top 5 college pick that OPS’ed under 700 in his first 2 seasons and turned into a good player. You’ll be pretty hard pressed to find anyone that fits that description


Very few players have their “first two seasons” at 23 and then 24 years old.

Also, he has fewer than 500 ABs. Thats not even an entire seasons worth.
Posted by JoeyP239
Member since Nov 2025
1129 posts
Posted on 4/3/26 at 11:46 pm to
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Very few players have their “first two seasons” at 23 and then 24 years old.


Most college players that are top 5 picks dont spend much time in the minors.

Kris Bryant (debut at 23)
Kyle Schwarber (debut at 22)
Ryan Braun (Debut at 23)
Dansby Swanson (debut at 22)
Alec Bregman (debut at 22)

These guys all hit well immediately and were clearly good players from the get go.


Then you have others that completely sucked when they debuted and kept sucking:


Spencer Torkleson
Henry Davis
Dylan Crews
Andrew Vaughn
Joey Bart
Nick Senzel

All these guys were top 5 picks.
All college position players.

There aren’t any that “sucked then became good”


This post was edited on 4/3/26 at 11:48 pm
Posted by RB10
Member since Nov 2010
52149 posts
Posted on 4/4/26 at 12:01 am to
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Kris Bryant (debut at 23)


Spent 2 full seasons in the minors before debuting.

quote:

Kyle Schwarber (debut at 22)


Spent 1.5 seasons in the minors before debuting. Was well below average for his 1st 3 MLB seasons.

quote:

Ryan Braun (Debut at 23)


Spent a full season in the minors before getting called up.

quote:

Dansby Swanson (debut at 22)


Spent more than 1.5 seasons in the minors. Was objectively bad at the plate for first two full MLB seasons (sub .700 OPS, which you mentioned)

quote:

Alec Bregman (debut at 22)


Spent a full season in the minors.

Crews debuted 5 months after he was drafted.
Posted by RB10
Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 4/4/26 at 12:03 am to
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There aren’t any that “sucked then became good”


This is objectively false. Two of the players you listed were terrible for their first 2 full time seasons.

Schwarber and Swanson.
This post was edited on 4/4/26 at 12:06 am
Posted by JoeyP239
Member since Nov 2025
1129 posts
Posted on 4/4/26 at 12:24 am to
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This is objectively false. Two of the players you listed were terrible for their first 2 full time seasons. Schwarber and Swanson.


Schwarber OPS’d 842 in his rookie year. He hit 246/355/487 with 16 home runs at age 22

You think that’s terrible?

Swanson hit 302/361/442 his rookie year. His 2 years after that he hit similar to Crews but he is also a SS. His value was SS defense.

Crews has shown zero capability of hitting in the majors over 2 years and he has to hit given he plays in the OF. Dude is a bust like the other ones I listed.

Posted by RB10
Member since Nov 2010
52149 posts
Posted on 4/4/26 at 12:31 am to
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Schwarber OPS’d 842 in his rookie year. He hit 246/355/487 with 16 home runs at age 22

You think that’s terrible?


I said 2 seasons. Schwarber was pretty bad in 2017 and 2018 and has sprinkled in several other bad seasons.

quote:

Swanson hit 302/361/442 his rookie year.


129 ABs

quote:

His 2 years after that he hit similar to Crews but he is also a SS. His value was SS defense.


His two years after his rookie “season” he was objectively terrible at the plate

quote:

Crews has shown zero capability of hitting in the majors over 2 years and he has to hit given he plays in the OF. Dude is a bust like the other ones I listed.


Making definitive statements about players with fewer than 500 ABs is quite dumb. Especially when they match up pretty closely to other players you’re listing as successes.
This post was edited on 4/4/26 at 12:32 am
Posted by TigerBait2008
Boulder,CO
Member since Jun 2008
40491 posts
Posted on 4/4/26 at 12:37 am to
Youre arguing with a moron don't waste your time. Dude gets coffee for people that talk real sports.
Posted by Tigerpride18
Lakewood Colorado
Member since Sep 2017
32690 posts
Posted on 4/4/26 at 1:34 am to
Spencer torkleson is a bust?
Posted by Portcityblues
Member since Jan 2017
1610 posts
Posted on 4/4/26 at 2:17 am to
Looking like Langford was the better pick right now
Posted by FWBTigah
Member since Oct 2017
1502 posts
Posted on 4/4/26 at 8:22 am to
quote:

it was Crews in college for 3 years.


With a metal bat
Posted by Tiger Ugly
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2008
18673 posts
Posted on 4/4/26 at 8:28 am to
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Then you have others that completely sucked when they debuted and kept sucking:


Spencer Torkleson
Henry Davis
Dylan Crews
Andrew Vaughn
Joey Bart
Nick Senzel

All these guys were top 5 picks.
All college position players.

There aren’t any that “sucked then became good”


Didn't Andrew Vaughn have a pretty good season with the Brewers last year? .869 OPS in 64 games with the Brew Crew and a huge homer in the post season against my Cubbies.
Posted by Willie Stroker
Member since Sep 2008
16602 posts
Posted on 4/4/26 at 9:51 am to
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He's struggling offensively. He's still a very good defender and has good speed. There's a lot more to baseball than batting average and home runs.

This topic is not about that.

It’s about doing the things that can keep you on a major league roster. He’s not doing them.
Posted by JoeyP239
Member since Nov 2025
1129 posts
Posted on 4/4/26 at 10:23 am to
quote:

Spencer torkleson is a bust?


I mean, he plays 1st base/DH and his 5 year average is: 225/309/408.

Why would anyone want that at 1st base?
Posted by JoeyP239
Member since Nov 2025
1129 posts
Posted on 4/4/26 at 10:41 am to
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Didn't Andrew Vaughn have a pretty good season with the Brewers last year?


Vaughn was drafted by the White Sox as the #3 overall pick in 2019. They let him play everyday for some awful White Sox teams for 4 years.

2021 (age 23): 235/309/396
2022: (age 24): 271/321/429
2023; (age 25): 258/314/429
2024: (age 26): 246/297/403
2025 (age 27): 189/218/314

Then he gets dealt to the Brewers on June 13 and hits 308/375/493 over 64 games.

As a 1st basemen, those are bad numbers and a reason the White Sox are one of the worst teams in the league. He did hit way way way above his career numbers after he was dealt to the Brewers tho. Who knows whether it was something they fixed or a random hot streak

And I also think given where some of these guys were drafted like Vaughn/Torkleson they are given far more chances at the MLB level than other players who if they hit like that would be sent back down to the minors or be out of the league.
This post was edited on 4/4/26 at 10:46 am
Posted by bstaceyau19
New Orleans
Member since Jun 2022
1301 posts
Posted on 4/4/26 at 10:47 am to
With a few individual exceptions, college pitching is no where near MLB, AAA, or even AA pitching. And the metal bats make a difference too. Theres no way to know who will make it and who won't.
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