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re: Dylan Crews has 6 RBIs

Posted on 3/3/21 at 10:02 pm to
Posted by AlxTgr
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Posted on 3/3/21 at 10:02 pm to
What's his updated slugging%?
Posted by ell_13
Member since Apr 2013
85032 posts
Posted on 3/3/21 at 10:03 pm to
0.971
Posted by ell_13
Member since Apr 2013
85032 posts
Posted on 3/3/21 at 10:03 pm to
His OPS is 1.539

Posted by deaux
Member since Oct 2018
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Posted on 3/3/21 at 10:04 pm to
Good lord.

I wonder what Drost’s was before game 2
Posted by jimbeam
University of LSU
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Posted on 3/3/21 at 10:04 pm to
Serviceable
Posted by ell_13
Member since Apr 2013
85032 posts
Posted on 3/3/21 at 10:07 pm to
Snowman slg before game 2 was 1.067
Posted by Metaloctopus
Louisiana
Member since Nov 2018
5898 posts
Posted on 3/4/21 at 3:12 am to
I don't care for this new age baseball philosophy of putting your best hitter in the leadoff spot.

I know all about the argument for it, that you want to make sure he has the maximum amount of at bats. That sounds nice, with zero context involved.

If LSU would simply move him down to 2nd (not a big change, is it?) in a swap with Morgan, think of the amount of times Crews might drive him in, as much as Morgan gets on base, as opposed to Crews hitting bombs with no one on base, then Morgan comes up and gets his usual walk or single, but no one drives him in. I want someone on base when Crews comes up.

If the bottom of the order would do anything, this would only be an issue when leading off the game. But because of the struggles of the bottom of the order, Crews almost never has anyone on base. When you're batting around .450 with five home runs after nine games, you'd like to think you'd have more than 6 RBI. I know it's easy to sit here and say we're winning, so who cares, but , let's be honest... We haven't exactly faced a gauntlet of a schedule. I just think we could do more do maximize the potential of this lineup.
Posted by Metaloctopus
Louisiana
Member since Nov 2018
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Posted on 3/4/21 at 3:48 am to
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Solve what? Nobody else batting Crews in? Kind of hard for someone else to “bat him in” when he’s not on base.

Or are you complaining that nobody else is on base when he homers? You do realize the bottom of the order bats in front of him? Those guys are at the bottom of the order for a reason.

Your only likely solution, if this is a “problem” you are concerned about, is to not let Crews leadoff.




Dude... C'mon man.
Posted by Penrod
Member since Jan 2011
39273 posts
Posted on 3/4/21 at 7:23 am to
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Paul seems happy and we are winning so who cares if we miss out on 2-3 runs per game right?


This is an egregious exaggeration that does not admit a downside.

Moving Crews back in the lineup, or moving your 5 hole hitter to nine, would cost LSU runs as well as giving LSU runs. The question is what is the net? And that is a complicated question.

Crews has batted 35 times with 5 HRs - that's 1 in 7. He has hit three doubles and 8 singles. In only 8 of his 35 plate appearances has it mattered that he had a runner on, unless you assume the runner was in scoring position.

By moving Crews back in the lineup you about double the chance he'll have runners on. But you decrease his at bats. Moving him to 3 decreases his at bats about 5%. It also increases the number of times he will be intentionally walked or pitched around.

These are just a few of the considerations, of which there are many. It's an incredibly complex problem of odds. For 100 years people went with intuition and convention, which is what you are relying on. Now, as you well know, they study the hell out of it, using computer programs to hash through all of that data. And all of these analytics turned up some surprisingly counter-intuitive results. One of them is that the typical three hole guy should often be batting first.

When fans point out that Crews is not getting a lot of RBI opportunities they are right, but they are not looking at the other side of the ledger. It's like criticizing CPM for buying a bike by saying he no longer has the money he spent. Yeah, but he has a bike.
Posted by ell_13
Member since Apr 2013
85032 posts
Posted on 3/4/21 at 7:35 am to
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For 100 years people went with intuition and convention, which is what you are relying on. Now, as you well know, they study the hell out of it, using computer programs to hash through all of that data. And all of these analytics turned up some surprisingly counter-intuitive results. One of them is that the typical three hole guy should often be batting first.

You are wrong. He should be batting second based on analytics.

Also, if he drops to second, he only loses about 9 ABs on a college season. Not enough to lose opportunities to drive in runs.
Posted by Penrod
Member since Jan 2011
39273 posts
Posted on 3/4/21 at 11:03 am to
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You are wrong. He should be batting second based on analytics.

I never said where he should be batting, so how could I be wrong?
quote:

if he drops to second, he only loses about 9 ABs on a college season. Not enough to lose opportunities to drive in runs.

He would lose about 2.5% of his at bats.
This post was edited on 3/4/21 at 11:05 am
Posted by ell_13
Member since Apr 2013
85032 posts
Posted on 3/4/21 at 11:06 am to
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And all of these analytics turned up some surprisingly counter-intuitive results. One of them is that the typical three hole guy should often be batting first.
This is wrong. You posted it. So that's where what you posted was wrong. It wasn't a quote so I attributed it to you. And since it didn't come from any analytics study or quote, you made it up. So again... wrong... you.
Posted by ell_13
Member since Apr 2013
85032 posts
Posted on 3/4/21 at 11:07 am to
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He would lose about 2.5% of his at bats.
We are already 9 games in. And it's down to about 4-5 ABs. That's closer to 1%.
Posted by TigerDM
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2013
1604 posts
Posted on 3/4/21 at 11:40 am to
But he's scored 12 runs, 2 more than anyone else.
It's all a balance and if Morgan, Drost and Dugas keep
hitting good, it all works out.
Posted by Choupique19
The cheap seats
Member since Sep 2005
61823 posts
Posted on 3/4/21 at 11:53 am to
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But he's scored 12 runs, 2 more than anyone else.


Almost half due to his own home runs
Posted by ell_13
Member since Apr 2013
85032 posts
Posted on 3/4/21 at 12:05 pm to
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But he's scored 12 runs
He has 5 HRs.
Posted by deaux
Member since Oct 2018
20267 posts
Posted on 3/4/21 at 12:07 pm to
I have faith that come SEC play, it’ll be Morgan, Crews, Doughty and then who knows from there.
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
66491 posts
Posted on 3/4/21 at 12:22 pm to
What about moving him to 2?
Posted by ibleedprplngld
Lafayette, LA
Member since Jan 2012
4303 posts
Posted on 3/4/21 at 12:25 pm to
Legit waste in the 1 hole IMO.

That said, idk who the hell you’d put in the 1 besides him.... maybe Morgan?
Posted by ell_13
Member since Apr 2013
85032 posts
Posted on 3/4/21 at 12:27 pm to
Morgan, yes. He's got a great approach and still puts plenty of pressure on a defense and pitcher to start the game.
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