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re: Duration of Rebuild?

Posted on 11/14/20 at 6:55 pm to
Posted by TigerBlood17
Member since Jan 2014
1579 posts
Posted on 11/14/20 at 6:55 pm to
Look at the schedule next year and think about what every other team is losing. Trask gone, Mond Gone, Nix sucks, Franks gone. We get all of them at home. Bama is gonna lose the most production they have had in a long time. Mac Jones, Najee Harris, Smith, waddle gone. We play UCLA lol. 10-2 minimum next year. Top 10. And 2022 is another championship team. The future is bright.
Posted by JustLivinTheDream
Member since Jan 2017
3580 posts
Posted on 11/14/20 at 7:16 pm to
2019, 2020, and 2021 recruiting classes are going to have LSU right back in the thick of things next season. LSU will still be a young team but they will be dangerous. Offense will be very good and defense will have a nice influx of young talent, particularly in the back seven (Raesjon Davis, Sage Ryan, Derrick Davis, Nate Wiggins).

If LSU lands Korey Foreman and Maason Smith the 4-3 will be far more viable and strong up front. DT should be a strong group (Roy, Guillory, Taylor) but Foreman would be a huge addition as a true every down DE.
Posted by JustLivinTheDream
Member since Jan 2017
3580 posts
Posted on 11/14/20 at 7:35 pm to
quote:

O has had 4 recruiting classes. We’re shouldn’t have to rebuild, we should reload. Sure, we lost a lot this year so no one expected a top team, but this disaster is inexcusable.


Problem is the entire 2017 recruiting class is gone including four 1st rounders (Chaisson, Jefferson, Queen, and CEH), 2nd rounder Delpit, 3rd rounder Phillips, and 4th rounder Charles. You've also got opt-outs Shelvin and Vincent. LSU is really missing Kary Vincent out there.

And the 2018 recruiting class was a huge failure.

2019 was a good but not quite elite class, but a nice foundation for the 2021 team (Stingley, Emery, TDP, Palmer, Hampton). Just going to have to see some player development from the other guys or they will be passed up by the elite 2020 and 2021 classes.
Posted by Dennis4LSU
Baton Rouge, La
Member since Sep 2008
4483 posts
Posted on 11/14/20 at 9:11 pm to
I say your a shitty poster who doesn’t know LSU football....that’s what I say.
Posted by JohnnyU
Florida
Member since Nov 2006
12353 posts
Posted on 11/15/20 at 6:55 am to
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We have the dumbest fanbase ever.

ETA: If LSU isn’t top 10 next year they won’t be far from it.


Based upon what? Do you see a good offensive line or a solid running game?
How about a defense that is capable of stopping running water?
Where are the linebackers that help transform the defense?
Orgeron just squandered the greatest year in history with this sorry excuse of a football team. I think the problems go beyond the scheme and talent.
Posted by The Pirate King
Pangu
Member since May 2014
64880 posts
Posted on 11/15/20 at 7:10 am to
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Lsu is in the top 10 next year or has a new coach.


Posted by The Pirate King
Pangu
Member since May 2014
64880 posts
Posted on 11/15/20 at 7:10 am to
quote:

Orgeron just squandered the greatest year in history with this sorry excuse of a football team. I think the problems go beyond the scheme and talent.


the O haters are back at it.
Posted by Tiger1988
Houston
Member since May 2016
29594 posts
Posted on 11/15/20 at 7:14 am to
When Orgeron gets fired and 2.
Posted by Tiger1988
Houston
Member since May 2016
29594 posts
Posted on 11/15/20 at 7:17 am to
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Problem is the entire 2017 recruiting class is gone including four 1st rounders (Chaisson, Jefferson, Queen, and CEH),
. Dave Aranda is gone the foundation of Les Miles is gone which was the 2017 class. Funny how that works.
Posted by GeauxLSU4
New Orleans
Member since Feb 2012
11926 posts
Posted on 11/15/20 at 7:54 am to
What foundation is that? Heavy on skill players and severely lacking on the lines of scrimmage?
Posted by Ethan Martin
New Orleans
Member since Dec 2006
1749 posts
Posted on 11/15/20 at 7:57 am to
We should have beaten State and Missouri, that was 100% no adjustments
Posted by The First Cut
Member since Apr 2012
14701 posts
Posted on 11/15/20 at 8:00 am to
quote:

Chaisson, Jefferson, Queen, and CEH),
. Dave Aranda is gone the foundation of Les Miles is gone which was the 2017 class. Funny how that works.




Jefferson, Chiasson, and Phillips committed after Miles’ firing.

Check out the commitment date. Funny how that works.

LINK
This post was edited on 11/15/20 at 8:01 am
Posted by Nix to Twillie
Houston, TX
Member since Jan 2015
19954 posts
Posted on 11/15/20 at 8:11 am to
quote:

If you didn’t see a collapse coming this year it’s because you weren’t paying attention or you don’t know better.


What do you consider a collapse? Losing 3 or 4 games was expected. The first losing season in 21 years was not, and you’ll never convince me otherwise. No excuse for that ever happening.
Posted by Lester Earl
3rd Ward
Member since Nov 2003
288145 posts
Posted on 11/15/20 at 8:13 am to
CEH had to be re-recruited too, after he decommited
Posted by The First Cut
Member since Apr 2012
14701 posts
Posted on 11/15/20 at 8:23 am to
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What do you consider a collapse? Losing 3 or 4 games was expected. The first losing season in 21 years was not, and you’ll never convince me otherwise. No excuse for that ever happening.


Then you’re like OP and not savvy enough to have seen the train coming.

Yes, it’s the first losing season in years, but you’ve had no rent a win games to pad the record. Miles had a 3-5 and 4-4 conference record but padded the overall record with rent a wins. LSU doesn’t have that luxury this season.

You lost over 90% of your production from last year and had to replace them with much younger, first year starters. Much of the 2018 class isn’t even on campus anymore. So this season is comprised of players being first year starters and from a poor 2018 class or too many of them very young, from the 2019 and 2020 classes.

This dip is a result of mass exodus, coupled with the dearth of talent in the 2018 class, which would be your juniors leading the team. This was all very easy to see back in August.

Things will get righted when you get past that hole.
Posted by justice
Member since Feb 2006
55383 posts
Posted on 11/15/20 at 9:10 am to
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you didn’t see a collapse coming this year it’s because you weren’t paying attention or you don’t know better.
you were expecting losses to miss state, mizzou and having bo nix look like a Heisman contender? I think losses were expected vs bama, florida and potentially auburn. But not have auburn completely skull frick the defense
Posted by Nix to Twillie
Houston, TX
Member since Jan 2015
19954 posts
Posted on 11/15/20 at 12:45 pm to
quote:

This was all very easy to see back in August.


We’re looking at 3-7 if you split Arkansas and Ole Miss. You saw that back in August?

quote:

Things will get righted when you get past that hole.


I do believe that.

Posted by Mithridates6
Member since Oct 2019
8220 posts
Posted on 11/15/20 at 1:17 pm to
Next year will be top 10
Posted by Faulkmeister
Member since Nov 2020
39 posts
Posted on 11/15/20 at 1:29 pm to
quote:

Lsu is in the top 10 next year or has a new coach.


LSU could lose every game the next 2 years. No one is coming up with that buyout money.

For reference... as far as I know Charlie Weis is the biggest buyout paid in history at 19 million. That’s from a school with 120 million annually in revenue. LSU made something around 95 million in 2019.

O’s buyout is 70% of his remaining contract. I don’t see this firing to be possible until mid at least 2024.
Posted by Drizzt
Cimmeria
Member since Aug 2013
14881 posts
Posted on 11/15/20 at 1:35 pm to
We just won a championship and you people are saying we won’t be relevant for 3 years and O’s “only” strength is recruiting? We really have some of the dumbest and most spoiled fans in the world.
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