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re: Dual threat Quarterback vs Pass first QB

Posted on 12/3/14 at 12:12 pm to
Posted by justustm2
Member since Sep 2005
4158 posts
Posted on 12/3/14 at 12:12 pm to
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Are we going in the right direction with dual threat QB's???? Seems to me they struggle too much in the passing game and reading defenses.I rather have a pass first QB.


Just curious? Name the pass first QBs in college you would prefer over a dual threat QB. And list where their team is ranked. Thanks.
Posted by mmcgrath
Indianapolis
Member since Feb 2010
35474 posts
Posted on 12/3/14 at 2:23 pm to
quote:

Just curious? Name the pass first QBs in college you would prefer over a dual threat QB. And list where their team is ranked. Thanks.
Blake Simms I guess I could look up where his team is ranked.
Posted by tigerbait17
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2014
982 posts
Posted on 12/3/14 at 3:57 pm to
It all comes down to the scheme
Posted by boxcar willie
kenner
Member since Mar 2011
16036 posts
Posted on 12/3/14 at 6:28 pm to
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Not true. A lot of "dual-threats" are marginal passers. The ones that can pass extremely well just get higher ratings.



a lot of "pro style" QB's are marginal passers as well. The ones that can pass extremely well just get higher ratings.
Posted by zakeeus
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2013
261 posts
Posted on 12/3/14 at 6:32 pm to
I think you are confusing "dual threat qb" with "running qb"
Posted by boxcar willie
kenner
Member since Mar 2011
16036 posts
Posted on 12/3/14 at 6:33 pm to
so we wouldn't take Mariotta the Oregon QB, or Bamas QB or Auburns QB or Jamis Winston, or Dak Prescott. All those teams have duel threat QB's so I'm sure they must be at the bottom of the rankings.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
261719 posts
Posted on 12/3/14 at 6:34 pm to
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so we wouldn't take Mariotta the Oregon QB, or Bamas QB or Auburns QB or Jamis Winston, or Dak Prescott. All those teams have duel threat QB's so I'm sure they must be at the bottom of the rankings.


If LSU could recruit a Mariota or Winston, I'd be pretty happy. Obviously they can't.
Posted by TigerBait1127
Houston
Member since Jun 2005
47336 posts
Posted on 12/3/14 at 6:36 pm to
quote:

t we should focus on recruiting a GREAT offensive line


You really blew this whole thing open.

Someone call Les and tell him to try and get GREAT offensive lineman instead of just good ones
Posted by boxcar willie
kenner
Member since Mar 2011
16036 posts
Posted on 12/3/14 at 6:38 pm to
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If LSU could recruit a Mariota or Winston, I'd be pretty happy. Obviously they can't.


So what is the name of the great "single threat pro style" QB that they can recruit. Also why do you think our odds are so much greater of landing this great "pro style" QB over a great "duel threat" QB.
This post was edited on 12/3/14 at 6:39 pm
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
261719 posts
Posted on 12/3/14 at 6:45 pm to
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So what is the name of the great "single threat pro style" QB that they can recruit. Also why do you think our odds are so much greater of landing this great "pro style" QB over a great "duel threat" QB.


It's pretty obvious that Cam/Miles are looking for a mobile QB over a pure pocket passer. I'd bet future recruiting reflects this.
Posted by boxcar willie
kenner
Member since Mar 2011
16036 posts
Posted on 12/3/14 at 7:01 pm to
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It's pretty obvious that Cam/Miles are looking for a mobile QB over a pure pocket passer. I'd bet future recruiting reflects this.



well being they are much easier to find I don't doubt that
Posted by justustm2
Member since Sep 2005
4158 posts
Posted on 12/3/14 at 7:25 pm to
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Blake Simms I guess I could look up where his team is ranked.


Blake Sims, the dual threat QB at Bama? Is that your answer? Or is there another non-dual threat QB somewhere to support your argument against dual threats?
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
66864 posts
Posted on 12/3/14 at 7:28 pm to
quote:

Seems to me they struggle too much in the passing game and reading defenses.I rather have a pass first QB.


who is they?

if by they you mean Jennings, than he just sucks.
Posted by dgnx6
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2006
68943 posts
Posted on 12/3/14 at 7:48 pm to
your link only shows a picture.

Go check his profile out on 247. Espn is a complete joke when it comes to recruiting. thats not where they make money.
Posted by dgnx6
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2006
68943 posts
Posted on 12/3/14 at 7:52 pm to
quote:

Blake Simms I guess I could look up where his team is ranked.


Blake sims was a 4* athlete that played qb and running back. He was listed as a dual threat qb.

We have a pro style qb and he was the starter. Just shows our fans really dont know jack shite.
Posted by cheapseat
Louisiana
Member since Mar 2004
6288 posts
Posted on 12/3/14 at 9:59 pm to
Last 2 NC s Mauck and Flynn,game managers,but Mettenberger (pure pocket passer) fits LSU s offense the best. I know hard to find but we are LSU, we recruit great but our good QB s are few and too far between. Passing ability, complememts,improves our great running game.Got to have somebody that can at least make the lb s,secondary respect the pass. That didnt happen this year. Amazed we could run as effective as we did.
This post was edited on 12/3/14 at 10:04 pm
Posted by TigerBait1127
Houston
Member since Jun 2005
47336 posts
Posted on 12/3/14 at 11:29 pm to
Matt Mauck was not a game manager. Not sure why he keeps getting that label. He made big plays and was turnover prone
Posted by ELT
Member since Nov 2012
208 posts
Posted on 12/4/14 at 12:21 am to
Dual threat??? What is his first threat???
Posted by baccsc
Texas
Member since Dec 2011
92 posts
Posted on 12/4/14 at 8:03 am to
. Marcus Mariota, Oregon

There's a faction of NFL scouts that believed Mariota would have been the top quarterback in the 2014 class if he decided to jump to the pros following a spectacular sophomore campaign. However, the 6-foot-4, 212-pound playmaker elected to return to Eugene to continue to refine his footwork and fundamentals in the pocket. More importantly, Mariota is on a mission to lead the Ducks to the College Football Playoff, which would showcase his exceptional leadership skills and poise as a potential franchise quarterback. With a rare combination of skills as an athletic pocket passer, Mariota is a new-school quarterback capable of taking the NFL by storm in a few years.
Posted by baccsc
Texas
Member since Dec 2011
92 posts
Posted on 12/4/14 at 8:04 am to
. Bryce Petty, Baylor

Art Briles' system is as quarterback-friendly as they come, but observers shouldn't overlook Petty's talent as a pinpoint passer. The 6-3, 220-pound senior completed 62 percent of his passes for 4,200 yards with a 32:3 touchdown-to-interception ratio. It was most impressive that he took superb care of the football while firing bullets to every area of the field. Sure, the frenetic nature of Baylor's offense creates plenty of easy opportunities for Petty, but the consistent production and performance over the course of the season makes it hard to dismiss his chances of developing into a quality starter at the next level
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