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re: Don’t know why everyone is so negative

Posted on 10/24/25 at 7:47 pm to
Posted by MikeTheTiger71
Member since Dec 2021
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Posted on 10/24/25 at 7:47 pm to
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LSU just lost to Vandy for the first time in 35 years


A Vanderbilt team that beat Alabama last season and is ranked in the Top 10 for the first time since 1947. The deep meaning LSU fans are assigning to a label is an hysterical overreaction. This Vandy team bears no resemblance to the Vandy teams of the last 75 years. Indiana is #2. This is a brand new world. All the old rules no longer apply. LSU lost to a tough opponent on the road playing without the heart of their front 7. No one should be happy about that, but all the catastrophizing is over the top.
Posted by drizztiger
Deal With it!
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Posted on 10/24/25 at 7:59 pm to
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LSU just lost to Vandy for the first time in 35 years


Well, guess what ranked team LSU played at home the following weekend and won?
Easily TAMU. Hope we do it again.

Fall '89 was my first semester at LSU. My baws and I drove to College Station to watch that opening kickoff touchdown beatdown.

Beating TAMU the next year was fun, but 4-7, 5-6 seasons and now looking at the last 35 years and going back to hoping to win games in TS again.

That's not a great argument for me.
Posted by drizztiger
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Member since Mar 2007
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Posted on 10/24/25 at 8:11 pm to
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A Vanderbilt team that beat Alabama last season and is ranked in the Top 10 for the first time since 1947. The deep meaning LSU fans are assigning to a label is an hysterical overreaction. This Vandy team bears no resemblance to the Vandy teams of the last 75 years.
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Indiana is #2. This is a brand new world. All the old rules no longer apply.

LSU lost to a tough opponent on the road playing without the heart of their front 7. No one should be happy about that, but all the catastrophizing is over the top.
Why is Vandy beating Bama last year relevant? They lost to Bama this season.

Explain to me how these other programs have a new advantage over LSU. If the landscape has changed, shouldn't LSU be on the forefront? LSU is paying a 10/100 guaranteed contract and paid reportedly top 5 in NIL.

So it's now we shouldn't to be expected to be better than Vandy, Ole Miss and Indiana?
Posted by Reagan80
Earth
Member since Feb 2023
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Posted on 10/24/25 at 8:35 pm to
This team sucks because of its head coach. They’re checking out and getting ready for the draft or transfer portal.
Posted by MikeTheTiger71
Member since Dec 2021
4266 posts
Posted on 10/24/25 at 8:37 pm to
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Why is Vandy beating Bama last year relevant?


So you are agreeing that what LSU did against Vandy over the last 35 years isn’t relevant to this year?

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Explain to me how these other programs have a new advantage over LSU. If the landscape has changed, shouldn't LSU be on the forefront?


Why did Oregon lose by 10 to Indiana AT HOME? Why did Penn St lose 4 straight including UCLA and Northwestern AT HOME? Why did Michigan go 8-5 last year and have the same record as LSU this year? Why are Clemson and Florida 3-4? Why did Miami miss the playoffs last year and lose this year to Louisville AT HOME? Why did Alabama lose 4 games last year for the first time since 2007 including a loss to Vandy? Why did Georgia lose 3 games for the first time since 2018? Why do ND, Texas, and Tennessee have 2 losses already? Why did Oklahoma go 6-7 last year?

Why are Indiana, Georgia Tech, and Vanderbilt in the Top 10? Why are the Top 5 in the ACC standings: Georgia Tech, Virginia, SMU, Pitt, and Duke? Why are BYU and Cincinnati at the top of the Big 12? Why is Indiana first in the Big 10 and Northwestern, Minnesota, and UCLA tied for 3rd?

This is far from an LSU specific phenomenon. Whatever you think you know about who should be thriving in the current environment, it doesn’t match the reality of what is actually happening on the field.
Posted by drizztiger
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Posted on 10/24/25 at 8:49 pm to
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So you are agreeing that what LSU did against Vandy over the last 35 years isn’t relevant to this year?
In context, of course it's relevant.

It's like not losing to Tulane since '82 and now comparing the programs as somehow equal now.

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Why did Oregon lose by 10 to Indiana AT HOME? Why did Penn St lose 4 straight including UCLA and Northwestern AT HOME? Why did Michigan go 8-5 last year and have the same record as LSU this year? Why are Clemson and Florida 3-4? Why did Miami miss the playoffs last year and lose this year to Louisville AT HOME? Why did Alabama lose 4 games last year for the first time since 2007 including a loss to Vandy? Why did Georgia lose 3 games for the first time since 2018? Why do ND, Texas, and Tennessee have 2 losses already? Why did Oklahoma go 6-7 last year?

Why are Indiana, Georgia Tech, and Vanderbilt in the Top 10? Why are the Top 5 in the ACC standings: Georgia Tech, Virginia, SMU, Pitt, and Duke? Why are BYU and Cincinnati at the top of the Big 12? Why is Indiana first in the Big 10 and Northwestern, Minnesota, and UCLA tied for 3rd?

This is far from an LSU specific phenomenon. Whatever you think you know about who should be thriving in the current environment, it doesn’t match the reality of what is actually happening on the field.
Wow.

So if you spend the most money on coaches and players and lose, it's because parity.
Posted by LSUbasketballfan
Member since Jan 2021
469 posts
Posted on 10/24/25 at 8:57 pm to
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Alabama owns the series. But at least in the last 35 years or so LSU plays at least as well there as they play in Baton Rouge (even though they've lost most of games in either stadium). If somewhat recent history is any indication, LSU's probably slightly more likely to win at Alabama than they are at home.


10 years ago the LSU does good in Tuscaloosa stat meant something. Now LSU has lost 5 of the last 6 in Tuscaloosa. 4 of those have been by two TDs or more.
Posted by Tigers0918
Member since Feb 2020
1749 posts
Posted on 10/24/25 at 9:00 pm to
We lost to vandy during our "all in" year
Posted by PensaTigers
Pensacola
Member since Sep 2018
3247 posts
Posted on 10/24/25 at 9:13 pm to
You dont want what hes drinking. Its Takka vodka.
Posted by MikeTheTiger71
Member since Dec 2021
4266 posts
Posted on 10/24/25 at 9:15 pm to
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In context, of course it's relevant.


So, by context, you mean if it agrees with your perspective? Vandy beating Bama last year tells us nothing about the improvement in the strength of their program since the last 35 years because that would go against the extreme negativity at this year’s result, but what happened between LSU and Vandy over the last 35 years is relevant because it does support that negativity. Got it.

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So if you spend the most money on coaches and players and lose, it's because parity


In other words, you have no explanation for the same unexpected results happening across the country. Maybe, just maybe the transfer portal is doing more to level the playing field than NIL is helping the power schools. Maybe nobody has continuity or depth anymore, so injuries are harder to overcome and consistency in performance is harder to achieve.
Posted by Tigris Christi
Member since Jul 2016
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Posted on 10/24/25 at 9:17 pm to
Because the last time LSU lost to both Vanderbilt and Ole Miss in the same season was 1940!
Posted by drizztiger
Deal With it!
Member since Mar 2007
44891 posts
Posted on 10/24/25 at 9:24 pm to
So what's your explanation again? Make it clear to a 5th grade level as myself.

What are the deciding factors? IE - better coaching, more money for staff, more money for players, facilitates, etc.?

It's just a random roll of a die? Is that your point?
Posted by Brlaf77
Member since Sep 2024
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Posted on 10/24/25 at 9:31 pm to
Hey man …. save me a toke !!
Posted by MikeTheTiger71
Member since Dec 2021
4266 posts
Posted on 10/24/25 at 9:48 pm to
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So what's your explanation again?


My explanation is that I am humble enough to admit I don’t know what’s going on in college football right now. Traditional ways of thinking about what leads to successful programs don’t appear to be holding true in this environment. It’s chaotic and uncharted. Everyone’s feeling around in the dark trying to figure it out. Kelly hasn’t figured it out, but apparently very few, if any other coaches have either. The transfer portal has impacted depth for everyone, so it’s not unreasonable to suspect that key injuries are going to have a greater impact on teams than it has historically.

Fire Kelly, then what? What coach do you feel truly confident has the new world order figured out? Who really knows what the keys to success are or how to determine which coaches do?
Posted by cypresstiger
The South
Member since Aug 2008
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Posted on 10/24/25 at 9:49 pm to
Don’t know why everyone is so negative
—Because we look bad, even in victories?
Posted by drizztiger
Deal With it!
Member since Mar 2007
44891 posts
Posted on 10/24/25 at 9:57 pm to
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My explanation is that I am humble enough to admit I don’t know what’s going on in college football right now. Traditional ways of thinking about what leads to successful programs don’t appear to be holding true in this environment.
I can respect this. But it seems you were already using historic judgments (myself included).

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Fire Kelly, then what? What coach do you feel truly confident has the new world order figured out? Who really knows what the keys to success are or how to determine which coaches do?
This is why Blockbuster and others completely misunderstood the changing landscape.

My point:

You can have the most money and still failing.

Failing to understand your failing is the problem. Might as well quadruple down and not have eyes.
Posted by dljtigers
Sulphur, LA
Member since Feb 2012
2019 posts
Posted on 10/24/25 at 9:59 pm to
You are drunk!
Posted by dljtigers
Sulphur, LA
Member since Feb 2012
2019 posts
Posted on 10/24/25 at 10:06 pm to
The defense is good not great and Perkins still looks lost at times. The OL is last in CFB they got manhandled by VANDERBILT! QB is starting to get some velocity back but is not a threat to run AT ALL. We are terrible at short yardage situations.

If we are going to win tomorrow the defense will HAVE to learn how to stop a running QB which we have struggled with badly. The offense will have to play with TEMPO and we struggle with that, and we will need to win the turnover battle.

Look miracles can happen but we need a complete game in almost every facet to pull it off.
Posted by Blueghost1978
Metairie, LA
Member since Jan 2024
735 posts
Posted on 10/24/25 at 10:07 pm to
You’re what’s wrong with this fan base. You accept 9-3.
Posted by jcaz
Laffy
Member since Aug 2014
18784 posts
Posted on 10/24/25 at 10:23 pm to
You clearly haven’t watched this team. Defense can’t get off the field and are injury plagued. Offense can’t do anything. They are flat and honestly look soft.
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