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Does Regular Season or Tournament Title Matter More?

Posted on 2/28/19 at 9:20 am
Posted by cfontenot4
New Orleans, LA
Member since Jul 2014
558 posts
Posted on 2/28/19 at 9:20 am
Basically the title. So would we rather win the regular season title or the SEC tournament title? When you count the championships, does the regular season one count or the tournament? So like if we don't win the regular season, but we win the tournament, are we the 2019 SEC champions?
Posted by blake the kid
Member since Jun 2017
778 posts
Posted on 2/28/19 at 9:20 am to
Regular Season
Posted by SouthOfSouth
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2008
43456 posts
Posted on 2/28/19 at 9:21 am to
regular season x1000
Posted by lsutigermall
Plantation Trace
Member since Nov 2006
7301 posts
Posted on 2/28/19 at 9:22 am to
Yes, regular season but tourney title is pretty sweet
Posted by LSUSoulja08
Member since Oct 2007
16969 posts
Posted on 2/28/19 at 9:23 am to
should be pretty easy to reason out

regular season title means you were consistently the best the whole season vs. just getting hot at the right time for the tourney

obviously tourney champ is a good achievement and desired, but just doesnt carry the weight
Posted by Jenar Boy
Elsewhere
Member since Aug 2013
12543 posts
Posted on 2/28/19 at 9:27 am to
Posted by bayoubengals88
LA
Member since Sep 2007
18946 posts
Posted on 2/28/19 at 9:28 am to
The Tourney is largely irrelevant. The committee hardly considers it at all.

See Miss State a few years ago....

Edit: Ha! Nine years ago! How time flies...
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This post was edited on 2/28/19 at 9:32 am
Posted by gumbeaux
Member since Jun 2004
4468 posts
Posted on 2/28/19 at 9:28 am to
I would like to convince myself that neither matter since the team has locked up a spot in the NCAAT. It will give a chance to relax these next 3 games.

But I do want the regular season title.
Posted by alessic7
Franklin, TN
Member since Aug 2018
1974 posts
Posted on 2/28/19 at 9:37 am to
How about both?? What's bs about the regular season title is if we tie with UK and UT, they'll all get to hang banners too even though we beat both of them
Posted by BayouBengal
Member since Nov 2003
28275 posts
Posted on 2/28/19 at 9:41 am to
Depends, if you're like UGA years ago it was your only shot to get into the tournament. Otherwise it's a way to solidify your seeding.
Posted by WhereDaGoldAt
Richmond, VA
Member since Aug 2017
376 posts
Posted on 2/28/19 at 9:41 am to
What would improve this year's NCAA tournament seeding more:

Winning the 3 remaining games and a SEC tournament semi-final exit OR Losing one of these next 3 games (presuming UK or Tennessee win out) and the SEC reg. season crown BUT winning the SEC tournament?

I would say, for recency bias sake, losing one the 3 reg. season games and losing the SEC BUT winning the SEC tournament would get us a higher seed in the big dance.
Thoughts?
Posted by CubsFanBudMan
Member since Jul 2008
5075 posts
Posted on 2/28/19 at 11:22 am to
quote:

I would say, for recency bias sake, losing one the 3 reg. season games and losing the SEC BUT winning the SEC tournament would get us a higher seed in the big dance.
Thoughts?


I've seen way too often the committee not factor in Sunday's games into seeding. LSU's last chance to make an impression will probably be the semi-final game. Win the regular season title and make it to the championship game. That's the best bet. Don't need any more losses in the "last 10" slot of the resume.
Posted by mdomingue
Lafayette, LA
Member since Nov 2010
30386 posts
Posted on 2/28/19 at 11:54 am to
quote:

When you count the championships, does the regular season one count or the tournament?


Title goes to the regular season champ. Automatic bid goes to the tournament champ. LSU is in, I want the regular season/conference championship. I would like the tourney championship as well.

The commmitte like for a tourney lock to win their conference auto bid as well, it gives them more latitude in the picking of at larges.
Posted by KamaCausey_LSU
Member since Apr 2013
14546 posts
Posted on 2/28/19 at 11:56 am to
Tourney Title only matters for bubble teams. The automatic bid is nice, but if you're already a lock it doesn't really matter.
Posted by tomcatrav
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2009
440 posts
Posted on 2/28/19 at 11:59 am to
From the media perspective, the one that will matter most is whichever one Kentucky wins.
Posted by Alt26
Member since Mar 2010
28384 posts
Posted on 2/28/19 at 12:54 pm to
From the committee's stand point the (major) conf. tournaments are just additional games that are no more or/less important than a game in Nov/Dec.

Obviously winning the conf. tournament guarantees you a spot in the NCAAT. The reg season championship technically doesn't (though for all practical purposes it does). But the big benefit is one final opportunity to add more quality wins to your overall resume, particularly with those being neutral site games.

quote:

What would improve this year's NCAA tournament seeding more:

Winning the 3 remaining games and a SEC tournament semi-final exit OR Losing one of these next 3 games (presuming UK or Tennessee win out) and the SEC reg. season crown BUT winning the SEC tournament?


It would depend on who you beat in the conf. tournament. Beating say Auburn, Miss. St. and UK to win the SECT would probably be more impactful than winning the last 3 reg season games and exiting the SECT early. That would add 3 neutral site victories over NCAAT teams to LSU's resume vs. 2 quality road wins over bubble teams (Bama/UF). If you could predetermine the outcome of the rest of the season, I would take winning 3 SECT games against 3 NCAAT teams and finishing second in the reg season over winning the reg season but dropping the first game of the SECT.

The committee doesn't take into account the regular season conf. standings. It literally does not even appear of the "team sheet" (aka resume) of presented to the committee. You can win the reg. season conf. title and be seeded LOWER than the #2 team in the NCAAT. That's exactly what happen to Mich. St. and Purdue last year.

The goal is simply to stack big wins. It doesn't matter if those big wins came in November or in the tournament semi finals. They both count the same.
Posted by Tigrdynasty
19th hole
Member since Jun 2018
2736 posts
Posted on 2/28/19 at 1:20 pm to
quote:

See Miss State a few years ago....


looks like Kentucky won the sec tourney that year so what's your point?
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