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re: Does Jay move Holman to the Friday spot?
Posted on 2/18/24 at 7:38 pm to SammyTiger
Posted on 2/18/24 at 7:38 pm to SammyTiger
Rewatching the CWS. Man it’s crazy seeing Skenes go 8 innings in his last game and could’ve gone more
Posted on 2/18/24 at 7:43 pm to geauxnavybeatbama
it’s early in the season and Skenes wasn’t going 8 regularly at this point
I think his season high was 7.1 up to the tulane game. He throws a lot of pitches.
but he was an absolute workhorse
I think his season high was 7.1 up to the tulane game. He throws a lot of pitches.
but he was an absolute workhorse
This post was edited on 2/18/24 at 7:47 pm
Posted on 2/18/24 at 7:47 pm to geauxnavybeatbama
We play on Thursday this week. He's not bumping Holman up 2 days.
He could make the move the following week against Texas.
He could make the move the following week against Texas.
Posted on 2/18/24 at 7:52 pm to geauxnavybeatbama
It was all down hill for Hurd when the rain started coming down. Once he figures it out between the ears when something doesn’t go right, he will be ok.
The Argument would be if Holman can be your Friday guy and consistently save the bullpen for Saturday and Sunday. If Jay thinks that’s the case and Hurd is too unpredictable then Holman is your best bet on Friday. Holman and Ack seems like it can win you quite a bit of Friday games and set you up nicely for the rest of the weekend.
The Argument would be if Holman can be your Friday guy and consistently save the bullpen for Saturday and Sunday. If Jay thinks that’s the case and Hurd is too unpredictable then Holman is your best bet on Friday. Holman and Ack seems like it can win you quite a bit of Friday games and set you up nicely for the rest of the weekend.
Posted on 2/18/24 at 7:54 pm to DRock88
I don’t think we see Holman on Friday until conference play. May even wait until Florida.
Posted on 2/18/24 at 8:11 pm to geauxnavybeatbama
If Coleman can't constantly find the strike zone, his weekend starts are limited without other injuries to potential starters.
Posted on 2/18/24 at 8:25 pm to Hold That Tiger 10
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Hurd's A+ game is going to be better than what Holman can give you with his A+ game
Agreed. But I don't think the gap is as wide as a lot of you do.
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The key is, can Hurd bring that type of performance regularly.
Agreed again.
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I think the answer is yes
Why? Nothing he has done so far seems to indicate that. In fact, in indicates just the opposite.
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I also don't know what the plan is with Jump
I'm not sure anybody does, even the coaches. It's going to depend almost solely on his health and how his body responds after each outing. But reading between the lines, I think the coaches think Jump has the best stuff on the staff and his A+ game is probably higher than anybody's. But I think they're gonna be conservative with him for as long as they can to put him in the best position to have success down the stretch.
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he has Friday night written all over him.
He has "best potential starter on the staff" written all over him. But I don't think they're gonna rush him there because they don't have to. We have plenty of weekend options. And if he winds up only throwing 1 inning in a 4-game weekend to start the season, it's hard to imagine he'll be ready to start weekend games any time soon, if at all. But he'll be a huge key to the success of this staff and team and it will be really interesting to see how Jay and Yeskie plan to increase his work load and what role he winds up settling into.
This post was edited on 2/18/24 at 8:27 pm
Posted on 2/19/24 at 8:11 am to geauxnavybeatbama
Way too early to draw any conclusions, but Holman clearly had the best weekend of any pitcher we trotted out there. Jump showed a quick flash of why we were so excited to get him here, but he just needs to get 100% healthy.
Hurd is so frustrating because you can see the ability, just not the consistency.
Hurd is so frustrating because you can see the ability, just not the consistency.
Posted on 2/19/24 at 8:34 am to sportsfan
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Way too early to draw any conclusions, but Holman clearly had the best weekend of any pitcher we trotted out there
That was carried over from the performances in the spring scrimmages. Holman gives you what you need in a Friday starter and at least right now is able to go deeper into a game than anyone else on the staff. His stuff may not wow you as much as some other arms, but he continues to get the job done.
After watching the practice competition closely, I still believe that Hurd got the nod over Holman for opening day not because of his performance but in spite of it because one clearly looks more like a Friday night guy than the other at this point. It was obvious that Jay used it as he thought best to perhaps get the most out of Thatcher and reward him for being that dude at the end of last season.
Posted on 2/19/24 at 9:46 am to LsuTool
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Hurd was inconsistent the entire season last year
This is a little bit exaggerated. From the Georgia game on he was very consistent. The game on Friday was similar to his struggles in the middle part of the season last year, for sure. But his biggest improvement last year was rebounding once he ran into trouble. He did that against Georgia, South Carolina, Oregon St, and Florida at the end of last year.
He'd get into trouble and would rebound to minimize the damage. I look for that adjustment in his next outing. That doesn't mean he needs to move to the Saturday slot but I wouldn't be shocked if Jay shakes it up a little bit after the second weekend of 4 straight games.
Posted on 2/19/24 at 9:48 am to ScottAndrew
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I think that was always the plan. I think Hurd starting opening days was a hat tip for his role in the ship.
I don't think the move if any is made until after the second weekend. Only because of the 2 straight weekends of 4 straight games. Also, the way Jay talks about Jump just leads me to believe hes working him up to be the Friday guy by the start or End of SEC play.
Posted on 2/19/24 at 9:52 am to ccox11
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I think making any conclusions based on 1 weekend is not something you should do.
Agree. Was there Saturday and the pitchers had the upper hand. Not sure if anyone was able to truly stay warm, but the pitchers were warmer than anyone else on the field.
He looked great tho.
Posted on 2/19/24 at 10:41 am to geauxnavybeatbama
Holman Friday
Jump - Sat
Hurd Sunday
and thats for now... lotta arms in there that could take the sat or sun spot... Ack is one for sure, Herring is another, theyre loaded...
Jump - Sat
Hurd Sunday
and thats for now... lotta arms in there that could take the sat or sun spot... Ack is one for sure, Herring is another, theyre loaded...
Posted on 2/19/24 at 10:51 am to TigerFan55555
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Holman Friday
Jump - Sat
Hurd Sunday
and thats for now
Jump threw 1 inning this weekend. That's certainly not "for now." It may be eventually--and I'm sure they'd prefer that eventually--but I don't think Jump is anywhere close to being a weekend starter currently. Especially Friday or Saturday. He may start getting some Sunday starts with the plan of him just going 3-4 innings and turning it over to the pen after that. And maybe ramping that 3-4 innings up gradually. But you don't want to have a "pen game" until the last game of the weekend.
Posted on 2/19/24 at 11:01 am to Hold That Tiger 10
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Hurd's A+ game is going to be better than what Holman can give you with his A+ game. The key is, can Hurd bring that type of performance regularly.
Yep.
Hurd is the (slightly) higher rated MLB prospect and his top line stuff is a bit better than Holman's. Consistency will determine who is the Friday starter once SEC play begins. Holman has already been a Friday night guy. So I suspect Johnson feels confident in making the switch if he has to. But I think he will give Hurd a few more starts to see if he can recapture that end-of-the-season form from last year.
Regardless, having two top 35 prospects in your rotation is a good "problem" to have.
Posted on 2/19/24 at 11:23 am to Hot Carl
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Why? Nothing he has done so far seems to indicate that. In fact, in indicates just the opposite
Well, you left off this part of my quote...
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but there is more evidence to suggest I'm wrong here.
However, I don't think Hurd was as bad last year as the narrative the rant has created. There is a tendency for one thing to just get repeated nonstop on here, and rarely is it actually true. If someone took the time, you could go back and find my post from last year, which were very pro Hurd. This board will likely never give him a fair shake. Only a small part of that is valid criticisms though.
Posted on 2/19/24 at 11:39 am to geauxnavybeatbama
No division 1 coach will change his pitching rotation based on one game this early in the season. Especially when it all started for Hurd with a walk (crappy call on a 2/2 pitch) that should have been a SO and then a balk. I think that was his first runner. No way Jose.
Posted on 2/19/24 at 11:50 am to Mobiletiggah
I think JJ thought Hurd would start how he played in Omaha (dominant outings), and I don't blame him for giving him the nod for the Friday start.
Posted on 2/19/24 at 11:55 am to TIGERSby10
It'll be interesting to see how they set it up for Houston. Early weekend start this week. I wonder if we go Hurd Thurs, Holman on Friday and then Holman goes vs Texas and Hurd vs ULL in Houston.
Posted on 2/19/24 at 11:55 am to Hold That Tiger 10
If I'm the skipper I would start Holman game 1 of SEC series. With the depth of the staff, I would use Hurd out of the bullpen if you need to close a tight game because he did that really well in regionals and CWS.
If you don't need him game 1 then he can start game 2.
The whole key to the staff is what happens eventually with Jump. Is he gonna be a weekend starter? Will he stay in the bullpen?
Honestly, I think Jay will do whatever it takes to win games even if it means using pitchers as he sees fit in game 1 and 2 and then figure out game 3 when you get there.
You have multiple options to start a game 3 like Ack, Herring or Coleman and even Anderson depending on what he looks like as we progress through season and also depending on how you deploy Ack and Herring depending on the situation.
If you don't need him game 1 then he can start game 2.
The whole key to the staff is what happens eventually with Jump. Is he gonna be a weekend starter? Will he stay in the bullpen?
Honestly, I think Jay will do whatever it takes to win games even if it means using pitchers as he sees fit in game 1 and 2 and then figure out game 3 when you get there.
You have multiple options to start a game 3 like Ack, Herring or Coleman and even Anderson depending on what he looks like as we progress through season and also depending on how you deploy Ack and Herring depending on the situation.
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