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re: Does Jared Jones make the same play on the bunt?

Posted on 6/29/23 at 8:09 am to
Posted by Big4SALTbro
Member since Jun 2019
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Posted on 6/29/23 at 8:09 am to
Anyone that thought it was an easy play is a retard and should be disregarded.

That bunt was down and where it should normally be. A normal first baseman even crashing isn’t going to make a play on a bunt like that.

Posted by I-59 Tiger
Vestavia Hills, AL
Member since Sep 2003
36703 posts
Posted on 6/29/23 at 8:10 am to
quote:

Some of the comments suggested that it was an easy play for Tre to make because the ball bounced perfectly for him.


Easy? Of course. This place has always been an Algonquin Round Table of message boards.
Posted by Honest Tune
Louisiana
Member since Dec 2011
18208 posts
Posted on 6/29/23 at 8:12 am to
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Easy? Of course. This place has always been an Algonquin Round Table of message boards.


It was on an IG baseball page. The view of the play was third base/looking at home side, about 30’ up. Great view.
Posted by Tiger Ryno
#WoF
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Posted on 6/29/23 at 8:12 am to
He's a catcher.
Posted by BayTiger13
Louisiana
Member since Feb 2022
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Posted on 6/29/23 at 8:12 am to
Answer to the original question is more than likely not. Probably looking at maybe 1 in every 10 chances Jones makes the play vs maybe 5/6 in every 10 chances Tre makes it. The play is super difficult and Tre is just ridiculously athletic for playing 1B with good hands to make the transfer.

quote:

Morgan was holding a runner on first. He was "out of position" to field a bunt.


This isn't true. He was in perfect position to field the bunt because if he wasn't the play would not have been made. He was holding the runner on but it was a planned play that as soon as Skenes raised his leg to pitch Morgan was crashing as hard as he could. If Morgan would have truly been holding the runner on and playing 1B normal, that play doesn't get made.
Posted by Honest Tune
Louisiana
Member since Dec 2011
18208 posts
Posted on 6/29/23 at 8:13 am to
Milazzo is a catcher too. He’s athletic. His body is different than Jones, but I don’t discredit someone because they caught in high school.
Posted by Harry Morgan
Member since Sep 2019
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Posted on 6/29/23 at 8:14 am to
Posted by Honest Tune
Louisiana
Member since Dec 2011
18208 posts
Posted on 6/29/23 at 8:14 am to
quote:

Answer to the original question is more than likely not. Probably looking at maybe 1 in every 10 chances Jones makes the play vs maybe 5/6 in every 10 chances Tre makes it. The play is super difficult and Tre is just ridiculously athletic for playing 1B with good hands to make the transfer. quote: Morgan was holding a runner on first. He was "out of position" to field a bunt. This isn't true. He was in perfect position to field the bunt because if he wasn't the play would not have been made. He was holding the runner on but it was a planned play that as soon as Skenes raised his leg to pitch Morgan was crashing as hard as he could. If Morgan would have truly been holding the runner on and playing 1B normal, that play doesn't get made.


Something is off… you didn’t call me stupid for asking the question. Please revise and re-submit.
Posted by Honest Tune
Louisiana
Member since Dec 2011
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Posted on 6/29/23 at 8:17 am to
quote:

Harry Morgan


Posted by TexasTiger27
San Marcos Tx
Member since Sep 2016
464 posts
Posted on 6/29/23 at 8:20 am to
Does it matter?
Posted by Honest Tune
Louisiana
Member since Dec 2011
18208 posts
Posted on 6/29/23 at 8:20 am to
Does anything on the rant matter?
Posted by Lester Earl
3rd Ward
Member since Nov 2003
284948 posts
Posted on 6/29/23 at 8:21 am to
Most defensive executions on a squeeze bunts fail at the field and transfer of the ball. Morgan was loose and turned to backyard baseball and just made a great, instinctual play.

the angle was tough, u can't throw it. He was too close and the ball was too high to underhand. So he just did a chest pass type of thing. Jones' size alone would have made the angles difficult on its own.
Posted by Honest Tune
Louisiana
Member since Dec 2011
18208 posts
Posted on 6/29/23 at 8:23 am to
Well said. The transition is where most guys would have A.) not gotten the ball out fast enough. B.) not made an accurate throw.
This post was edited on 6/29/23 at 8:24 am
Posted by SelaTiger
Member since Aug 2016
20612 posts
Posted on 6/29/23 at 8:30 am to
No
This post was edited on 6/29/23 at 8:31 am
Posted by SmoothBox
Member since May 2023
1651 posts
Posted on 6/29/23 at 8:32 am to
I doubt Jones even fields it cleanly, let alone makes that play.

I understand our fanbase’s obsession with this guy, because he hits the ball a mile when he makes contact, but he’s not even close to be behind a mediocre fielder, let alone on Tre Morgan’s level.

He’s still a freshman, so who’s to say he can’t get near Tre’s level, but as he sits, no freaking way he comes close to making that play.
Posted by Honest Tune
Louisiana
Member since Dec 2011
18208 posts
Posted on 6/29/23 at 8:34 am to
quote:

understand our fanbase’s obsession with this guy, because he hits the ball a mile when he makes contact, but he’s not even close to be behind a mediocre fielder, let alone on Tre Morgan’s level


Do you think he goes into fall practice as the starting first baseman?
Posted by Hold That Tiger 10
Member since Oct 2013
23601 posts
Posted on 6/29/23 at 8:36 am to
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If Morgan would have truly been holding the runner on and playing 1B normal, that play doesn't get made


He was "truly" holding the runner on. Once Skenes leg kicked, Morgan crashed (by your admission). At that point there is no pick.

My point was, JJ could have elected to not hold that runner on first at all, and have the first baseman start 3-4 steps up. Which is what likely has to happen if it was Jones playing first, just to maybe have a chance.
Posted by Hold That Tiger 10
Member since Oct 2013
23601 posts
Posted on 6/29/23 at 8:37 am to
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but he’s not even close to be behind a mediocre fielder, let alone on Tre Morgan’s level.


Jones was pretty solid at first base for us. Our fans are spoiled by Morgan and think every first baseman should be able to do what he does. Tre being great doesn't make Jones "not even close to being a mediocre fielder."
Posted by KLSU
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2003
10719 posts
Posted on 6/29/23 at 8:38 am to
quote:

Does Jared Jones make the same play on the bunt?


No, and neither does 99% of first basemen in college baseball.

No slight to Jones at all.
Posted by Gus007
TN
Member since Jul 2018
13244 posts
Posted on 6/29/23 at 8:38 am to
Maybe, but probably will drive in more runs, even though Morgan has been clutch throughout his career.
Doubtful we can replace Morgan but the team will have to take up the slack.
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