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re: Does It help that BYU will have played 1 season Game

Posted on 8/16/17 at 3:31 pm to
Posted by skullhawk
My house
Member since Nov 2007
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Posted on 8/16/17 at 3:31 pm to
It's a big advantage. The only negative is injuries.

Portland State isn't good enough to expose any potential weaknesses and BYU can work out all of the kinks without showing any blitzes or go to plays on offense.

It's a pretty chickenshit move on their part scheduling a game before a "kickoff" classic.

LSU beat Ms State on the road in 2015 after State played a game and LSU had their home opener canceled due to lightning.
Posted by Bmath
LA
Member since Aug 2010
18716 posts
Posted on 8/16/17 at 3:34 pm to
It absolutely helps them from a tune up stand point and allows them to answer personnel questions.

The one disadvantage is that it gives LSU new game film to work with, while LSU's offense will remain a relative unknown.

I expect our defense to be stout, so this game doesn't really scare me.
Posted by EvrybodysAllAmerican
Member since Apr 2013
11474 posts
Posted on 8/16/17 at 3:40 pm to
This is the biggest concern i have about the BYU game. It was a huge advantage for VTech that year they beat us in the opener.
Posted by CougarDroppings
Utah
Member since Aug 2017
25 posts
Posted on 8/16/17 at 3:54 pm to
Just sayin that bigger programs than ours have fallen because it's the first game out of the gate. But by all means, put your head in the sand. Assume that you'll win by high school recruiting stars alone and that Canada is good enough to be firing on all cylinders out of the gate. I hope Coach O is assuming the same..
Posted by CougarDroppings
Utah
Member since Aug 2017
25 posts
Posted on 8/16/17 at 4:02 pm to
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The one disadvantage is that it gives LSU new game film to work with, while LSU's offense will remain a relative unknown.


I promise you that the film from the Pinstripe Bowl (Pitt vs Northwestern) will be 100x more valuable than the vanilla we'll be showing off vs Portland State. Our Wyoming game from last year will show more. Don't kid yourself..
Posted by Pelican fan99
Lafayette, Louisiana
Member since Jun 2013
35820 posts
Posted on 8/16/17 at 4:08 pm to
Wait why are they playing a game before us?
Posted by BlackHelicopterPilot
Top secret lab
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Posted on 8/16/17 at 4:08 pm to
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Wait why are they playing a game before us?


Schedule?


Posted by Bmath
LA
Member since Aug 2010
18716 posts
Posted on 8/16/17 at 4:12 pm to
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I promise you that the film from the Pinstripe Bowl (Pitt vs Northwestern) will be 100x more valuable than the vanilla we'll be showing off vs Portland State. Our Wyoming game from last year will show more. Don't kid yourself..


Notice I said "new game." As in, they have plenty of film from last year to watch. The new film gives them a better idea of new starters and such.

I'm sure BYU will spend a lot of time on Pitt film, but Canada has proven at each stop that he doesn't run a set offense. He adapts his offense based on the personnel he has.

If BYU can successfully defend the run, then things get interesting. At this point, no one expects our passing game to be great. However, I expect this game to look a lot like LSU vs Mizzou last year.
Posted by ChunkyLover54
Member since Apr 2015
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Posted on 8/16/17 at 4:44 pm to
yes
Posted by CougarDroppings
Utah
Member since Aug 2017
25 posts
Posted on 8/16/17 at 4:47 pm to
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Notice I said "new game." As in, they have plenty of film from last year to watch. The new film gives them a better idea of new starters and such.


You're right. There is value to getting one more recent game film, as vanilla as it will surely be.

I like our chances defending the run. If we were built for anything personnel wise and scheme wise, it's stopping the run. We usually do well there. Our D ranked #9 nationally against the run last year against: Mississippi State, Arizona, Michigan State, Utah, UCLA, West Virginia, Boise State, and some other G5 teams. So a lot of passing teams, but still stout against the run. I know we haven't seen anyone as freakish and mean as Guice, but I'm not sold that you guys have the OL to get him all the space that he needs. So as you say, if we can contain Guice then it gets interesting.

I promise you it's not going to be like your Mizzou game last year. I remember that game (Coach O's first) and you had two guys getting 100+. Not going to happen vs a Sitake D. It will be a 1-2 possession game either way.
Posted by terriblegreen
Souf Badden Rewage
Member since Aug 2011
10194 posts
Posted on 8/16/17 at 4:49 pm to
How many posts are we going to have on this??
Posted by Twenty 49
Shreveport
Member since Jun 2014
19157 posts
Posted on 8/16/17 at 7:27 pm to
Is it too late for LSU to get in on a jamboree to gain some experience?
Posted by Bmath
LA
Member since Aug 2010
18716 posts
Posted on 8/16/17 at 7:48 pm to
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but I'm not sold that you guys have the OL to get him all the space that he needs.


Despite all their offensive woes, LSU had the top ranked OL last year LINK. Yes, there has been some attrition and depth is somewhat concerning. However, this is a veteran unit that will be a strength early in the season.
Posted by Palm Beach Tiger
Orlando, Florida
Member since Jan 2007
29942 posts
Posted on 8/16/17 at 8:03 pm to
I would feel much better if we played byu midseason after we ironed all the wrinkles and our experiance has caught up with our talent. Byu will have older guys that would be tough to push around at our best. I think we will win.....hell maybe even blow them out with talent. But i wouldnt expect anything less than a grueling win.
Posted by CougarDroppings
Utah
Member since Aug 2017
25 posts
Posted on 8/16/17 at 9:07 pm to
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Despite all their offensive woes, LSU had the top ranked OL last year LINK. Yes, there has been some attrition and depth is somewhat concerning. However, this is a veteran unit that will be a strength early in the season.


Well I hope you're wrong. If Guice gets loose it's going to be a long game for BYU. And I'll say this as well, if LSU is able to blow BYU out and show any sort of balance in the offense, meaning Canada got the air game going, I'll drive down to Vegas and put $500 on LSU to win the SEC and make the Playoffs. I just don't see it. We haven't been blown out in a while. Last time was Michigan a few years ago, but it had been a while before that. I hate to say it but I expect a tough game where LSU controls the clock, doesn't make any big mistakes, manages a slow, boring (to outsiders of course) game and wins something like 17-7 with a late TD to put it away.
Posted by Nado Jenkins83
Land of the Free
Member since Nov 2012
60510 posts
Posted on 8/17/17 at 2:12 am to
Nah it will be a blowout. Good thing is you'll get 5 pity bjs from your many wives
Posted by Space Cowboy
Member since Oct 2016
4079 posts
Posted on 8/17/17 at 2:31 am to
Nobody knows until we actually play the game on September 2nd. Hence, why even ask such an incredibly stupid question? Are you bored? stupid? or both bored and stupid?
Posted by BayouBengal99
Crowley
Member since Oct 2007
9222 posts
Posted on 8/17/17 at 9:55 am to
Do you guys realize that this rushing attack isn't the conventional rushing attack that anyone sees on a given week? BYU will have exactly (1) week to prepare for it. That isn't going to be easy what so ever.

While it might help by playing a game first, that game is more like a scrimmage for you guys like you mentioned "vanilla" so basically you're admitting that you will have many more plays which wasn't worked on during this cake game. So it will be the first time you guys have implemented most of your offense in a real game as well. Not to mention that this will be one of your toughest opponents in recent history, believe me this isn't the same ole LSU of last season.

This offense will be the equivalent of preparing for the wing t option with real athletes. Our defense is going to make it extremly hard for your offense to be any kind of consistent. I think your big advantage isn't as big as you would like it to be.
Posted by BayouBengal99
Crowley
Member since Oct 2007
9222 posts
Posted on 8/17/17 at 10:08 am to
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LSU controls the clock, doesn't make any big mistakes, manages a slow, boring (to outsiders of course) game.


This new LSU offense will be anything but boring lmao. You guys really don't see what's coming. If your defense can play as fast as LSU, while trying to find the ball, tackle one on one in space, and stop all of our backs then BYU will have a tremendous season ahead of them and LSU is going to have lots of work to do.

That said I don't see it happening. If this was the typical LSU offense we've seen for the last 5 years, then yes you would be able to stop the run, but it isn't. I think it's LSU 35 BYU 14. Could be LSU 24-35 BYU 6-14. So best case for LSU 35-6, worst case 24-14 IMO. Any score in between could happen. Of course anything can happen, we could just totally tank the game but to bank on that isn't realistic.
Posted by Mooreman
Kildare , Ireland
Member since May 2016
871 posts
Posted on 8/17/17 at 10:09 am to
Definitely an advantage for BYU
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