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re: Does Coach "O" Interfere with Ensmingers Play Calling
Posted on 7/12/18 at 12:25 pm to TheHat7
Posted on 7/12/18 at 12:25 pm to TheHat7
Meaningless records.
Like most yards in 2 games vs fricking Missouri and Southern Miss
And individual rushing yard games which are more about individual players than play calling.
But if you want to argue that please tell
Me why we didn’t run the 70 yards TD plays against Alabama.
Can Cameron set records too
Most rushing yards in a season by a player
Most rushing TDS in a season by a player
Most passing TDS in a game
Like most yards in 2 games vs fricking Missouri and Southern Miss
And individual rushing yard games which are more about individual players than play calling.
But if you want to argue that please tell
Me why we didn’t run the 70 yards TD plays against Alabama.
Can Cameron set records too
Most rushing yards in a season by a player
Most rushing TDS in a season by a player
Most passing TDS in a game
This post was edited on 7/12/18 at 12:30 pm
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Posted on 7/12/18 at 12:30 pm to TheHat7
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E set records.
He should get some credit for the offensive explosions against USM and Mizzou. I'll leave it at that.
However, can we stop acting like Fournette and Guice breaking single-game rushing records is some accomplishment of Ensminger's. Please. It smacks of desperation. E did a largely very good job of calling plays from Les/Cam's offense in 2016. He deserves credit accordingly.
Posted on 7/12/18 at 12:34 pm to SammyTiger
What specifically did you not like about his play calling?
Posted on 7/12/18 at 12:52 pm to Lester Earl
How our whole game plan revolved around running all over our opponents or jump deep balls downfield.
It games where the running game stalled out we stalled out.
We opened up the offense but it’s not hard to open up an offense compared to what Les was running, and I jured LF7 between the tackles 20+ times a game.
It games where the running game stalled out we stalled out.
We opened up the offense but it’s not hard to open up an offense compared to what Les was running, and I jured LF7 between the tackles 20+ times a game.
This post was edited on 7/12/18 at 12:54 pm
Posted on 7/12/18 at 12:52 pm to SammyTiger
which games were that
Posted on 7/12/18 at 12:54 pm to Lester Earl
Guess
Or tell me a game when that wasn’t the case.
Or tell me a game when that wasn’t the case.
This post was edited on 7/12/18 at 1:06 pm
Posted on 7/12/18 at 12:54 pm to pitchandcatch27
Every head coach that coaches a major college program will have some input over the offense and defense.
So the answer is yes. Coach O will not give Ensminger free reign to do whatever he wants.
So the answer is yes. Coach O will not give Ensminger free reign to do whatever he wants.
Posted on 7/12/18 at 1:10 pm to pitchandcatch27
Yes he will interfere. Why do you think he hired a yes man instead of conducting an OC search? Zero can’t let anyone hurt his fragile ego.
ETA: sorry coach don’t block me on Twitter
ETA: sorry coach don’t block me on Twitter
This post was edited on 7/12/18 at 1:12 pm
Posted on 7/12/18 at 1:26 pm to lsu2006
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He should get some credit for the offensive explosions against USM and Mizzou. I'll leave it at that.
Have to qualify the offensive explosion with the fact that he was using the offense Cam Cameron installed.
Posted on 7/12/18 at 1:34 pm to bencoleman
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Why do people still pretend not to understand why O interfered with Canada?
I understand, because I was not a fan of Canada's offense. But its really hard to make wholesale changes mid-season or mid-game. I believe he thought he was making a good decision.
Posted on 7/12/18 at 1:57 pm to ThePaleHorse
But if you step in and it blows up in your face, that shits on you.
You don’t get to just argue you were justified in stepping in and ignore the outcome.
You don’t get to just argue you were justified in stepping in and ignore the outcome.
Posted on 7/12/18 at 2:09 pm to SammyTiger
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But if you step in and it blows up in your face, that shits on you.
Correct, O was justified in stepping in, but he is also responsible for it. It was a complete shitshow.
With that said, I'm just glad Canada is gone.
Posted on 7/12/18 at 2:15 pm to ThePaleHorse
The next point is, is he justified stepping in if he can’t fix it?
Would you hire O to consult on your offense? Just in a bubble would you do that?
Probably not.
You aren’t justified if you step into a problem you should know you can’t fix.
Would you hire O to consult on your offense? Just in a bubble would you do that?
Probably not.
You aren’t justified if you step into a problem you should know you can’t fix.
Posted on 7/12/18 at 2:33 pm to SammyTiger
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The next point is, is he justified stepping in if he can’t fix it?
Well, he had to try something. And as a head coach, I would have probably done the same.
Orgeron didnt call the plays that were used in that game. He most likely meddled by telling Canada to use a different offensive scheme. Where I see the issue, is changing schemes in mid season, with likely no preparation.
I completely understand why he meddled! But it didnt work. And he is responsible.
Posted on 7/12/18 at 2:42 pm to pitchandcatch27
As long as they do the same thing as when Ensminger took over previously, we gonna be good.
Posted on 7/12/18 at 2:54 pm to SammyTiger
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You aren’t justified if you step into a problem you should know you can’t fix.
And there's no way in hell he knew how to fix anything in Canada's offense. But he can tell Canada to try something different.
Posted on 7/12/18 at 2:58 pm to ThePaleHorse
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Well, he had to try something. And as a head coach, I would have probably done the same.
I don't necessarily disagree that he had to do something, but eliminating the shifts basically neutered Canada's offense for a half. Couldn't there have been a more comprehensive solution than running plays from the Ensminger-tweaked Cam playbook?
Orgeron is always getting benefit of the doubt for being a "first year head coach" and we're constantly reminded how many inexperienced players were getting snaps. How come no patience was exhibited for the first year OC?
That's why I think the OP's question is a relevant one. If the offense struggles out of the gates again, does Orgeron step in again with a new idea? Or will he let Ensminger work out the kinks because he's already running what Orgeron wants?
Posted on 7/12/18 at 3:02 pm to Alt26
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Alt26
Solid post
Posted on 7/12/18 at 3:07 pm to schwartzy
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Of course he will. It’s why he hired him.
We hired him to interfere with the offense? His whole pitch, according to his own words was he would stay out of the offense. He stated how he learned from his first HC gig and how he was trying to control the offense, especially the QB position.. and he should never had.
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because Canada was told he’d have full autonomy.
Yes, he went against his word.. the main reason Canada came here.
With that said..
I don't think O will interfere with Ensminger in the same way, because he seems to trust him more and they are buddies.
Posted on 7/12/18 at 3:17 pm to nvasil1
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but eliminating the shifts basically neutered Canada's offense for a half.
I totally agree, I wasnt a fan of Canada, but his scheme is a machine with alot of parts, and needs all the parts to work properly. Orgeron weakened that machine by the changes he wanted made. Was a disaster.
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How come no patience was exhibited for the first year OC?
I dont know, but seems they didnt jive with each other.
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Or will he let Ensminger work out the kinks because he's already running what Orgeron wants?
I sincerely hope this is the case.
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