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re: Does Coach "O" Interfere with Ensmingers Play Calling
Posted on 7/12/18 at 3:18 pm to pitchandcatch27
Posted on 7/12/18 at 3:18 pm to pitchandcatch27
I'm gonna go ahead and say yes.
If only because O's coaching career is at stake.
This is a no-win scenario for O, if he doesn't everybody will say he should have stepped in, if he does people will say he should have let E do his thing.
If only because O's coaching career is at stake.
This is a no-win scenario for O, if he doesn't everybody will say he should have stepped in, if he does people will say he should have let E do his thing.
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Posted on 7/12/18 at 4:44 pm to ThePaleHorse
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Well, he had to try something. And as a head coach, I would have probably done the same.
Why did he have to change something? We were 4 games into the season.
That’s far too early to push the panic button, unless you’re someone that has some insecurities about whether or not you belong in this job in the first place.
Posted on 7/12/18 at 5:36 pm to SouthdownsTiger4178
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I'm gonna go ahead and say yes. If only because O's coaching career is at stake.
Every HC has involvement in play calling bc every HC’s career is at stake. Ever see Saban (a defensive guru) lose his shite on an OC?
Posted on 7/12/18 at 5:38 pm to beauxroux
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Every HC has involvement in play calling bc every HC’s career is at stake.
Very true. I just wish we had all the facts and knew just how much of a change was made.
Posted on 7/12/18 at 5:56 pm to pitchandcatch27
Look at the team after Miles was canned..... the offense was really good..... much much more smoother than it was the first 4 games.
Posted on 7/12/18 at 5:58 pm to dukke v
Wel also played really bad run defenses.
And we were less than smooth vs the 2 decent teams we played.
And we were less than smooth vs the 2 decent teams we played.
Posted on 7/12/18 at 6:10 pm to schwartzy
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Of course he will. It’s why he hired him. When O tried to interfere with Canada, that’s when fights broke out because Canada was told he’d have full autonomy.
Dead wrong. Canada is with his 4th team in 5 years for a reason. He doesn't get along well with the other kids.
O didn't interfere until after they lost to MooSt. It's his job to do so.
Posted on 7/12/18 at 6:14 pm to djrunner
I would say IF he really was forcing Canada to run plays from '16 and that weren't even in his playbook and IF Canada was promised full control that I would disagree.
Posted on 7/12/18 at 6:25 pm to TigerLunatik
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Very true. I just wish we had all the facts and knew just how much of a change was made.
Truth be told, Orgeron would've been better served to not say anything at all. There was no upside to him actually admitting to tampering, other than to publicly demonstrate authority over Canada.
Posted on 7/12/18 at 6:25 pm to pitchandcatch27
I don’t believe anything that Orgeron says, he has lied in the past, he will lie in the future.
Posted on 7/12/18 at 6:26 pm to TigerLunatik
I don't really trust O with any particular facet of the team/program outside of his specialty, DL, and maybe recruiting.
A successful CEO knows when, and when not, to interfere with his subordinates.
A successful CEO knows when, and when not, to interfere with his subordinates.
Posted on 7/12/18 at 6:32 pm to SouthdownsTiger4178
That's true too. Just as I don't believe that Alleva would have the right to tell Orgeron what offensive coordinator to hire.
I think all head coaches are going to have input in the overall philosophy, but forcing a coordinator to run specific plays that aren't a part of his offense is overstepping IMO. If that's what really happened.
I think all head coaches are going to have input in the overall philosophy, but forcing a coordinator to run specific plays that aren't a part of his offense is overstepping IMO. If that's what really happened.
Posted on 7/12/18 at 6:35 pm to Goldrush25
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Orgeron would've been better served to not say anything at all. There was no upside to him actually admitting to tampering, other than to publicly demonstrate authority over Canada.
No shite. He can be too forthcoming sometimes and he also has a tendency to go overboard with the sales pitch and misspeak about stuff.
Posted on 7/12/18 at 6:36 pm to TigerLunatik
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Orgeron would've been better served to not say anything at all. There was no upside to him actually admitting to tampering, other than to publicly demonstrate authority over Canada.
No shite. He can be too forthcoming sometimes and he also has a tendency to go overboard with the sales pitch and misspeak about stuff.
It’s almost like he isn’t really cut out to be a head coach of a major division 1 p5 program.
Posted on 7/12/18 at 6:39 pm to TigerLunatik
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Very true. I just wish we had all the facts and knew just how much of a change was made.
Inquiring minds want to know? Remember, curiosity killed the cat. Lol. Only report I read said he eliminated pre-snap movement. Regardless, Troy was the team for him to do so—at least on paper. We should have had the talent, mindset and personnel to plow over them after telling them the play at the line of scrimmage.
Posted on 7/12/18 at 6:48 pm to justice
I have a question for you "meddling" people.
Was the offense that much more successful when he didn't tinker with the OL?
And let's be clear here, that when y'all say meddling which sounds like he changed up the entire offense for the season, it means that he talked Canada into letting the OLman drive off the ball and get some consistency that was lacking in the weeks prior for a whole half.
Canada pitched a fit and called one of the most predictable halfs I've ever seen. It was as if the man didn't know how to call a game without the lineman moving, which is BS. There is no excuse for that offense not to move the ball against freakn Troy
Was the offense that much more successful when he didn't tinker with the OL?
And let's be clear here, that when y'all say meddling which sounds like he changed up the entire offense for the season, it means that he talked Canada into letting the OLman drive off the ball and get some consistency that was lacking in the weeks prior for a whole half.
Canada pitched a fit and called one of the most predictable halfs I've ever seen. It was as if the man didn't know how to call a game without the lineman moving, which is BS. There is no excuse for that offense not to move the ball against freakn Troy
This post was edited on 7/12/18 at 6:49 pm
Posted on 7/12/18 at 6:57 pm to BayouBengal99
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Was the offense that much more successful when he didn't tinker with the OL?
Yes. Orgeron admitted to allowing the shifts again for the 2nd half and the offense actually scored points. Then the offense improved throughout the season.
Posted on 7/12/18 at 6:57 pm to BayouBengal99
People have said that Etling told the media that they were running plays from the '16 playbook. As I said before, IF that's true, that is truly meddling and not just tweaking.
Posted on 7/12/18 at 7:07 pm to BayouBengal99
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BayouBengal99
Something something NOTHING IS EVER O’S FAULT something something
Posted on 7/12/18 at 7:14 pm to TigerLunatik
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“It was just a normal offense, stuff we kind of did last year,” Etling said. “We did a little bit of the switch back to what we were doing (under Canada) in the second half.”
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Etling called it a “mixture” of Canada’s scheme and the one from last season.
LINK
This post was edited on 7/12/18 at 7:24 pm
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