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re: Does Coach "O" Interfere with Ensmingers Play Calling
Posted on 7/12/18 at 10:03 am to Lester Earl
Posted on 7/12/18 at 10:03 am to Lester Earl
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Game plan was sound;
Posted on 7/12/18 at 10:17 am to Lester Earl
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People will blame him for the Troy loss, but that isn't why we lost. Game plan was sound; execution lacked heavily.
Lulzies
Posted on 7/12/18 at 10:20 am to pitchandcatch27
I don't think he is going to need to. Him and Ensminger as more on the same page
Posted on 7/12/18 at 10:31 am to Lester Earl
It seems like he did a lot more than cut back on preanap motions, and it didn’t work.
Because he doesn’t know enough about offenses to make useful changes.
Because he doesn’t know enough about offenses to make useful changes.
Posted on 7/12/18 at 10:32 am to justice
tell me what wasn't sound about the game plan
We had 4 turnovers, they ran for 200 yards, & we still only lost by 3.
lack of execution does not mean the game plan wasn't good. Honestly i wasnt that much different than we we did all year. Just lacked execution
We had 4 turnovers, they ran for 200 yards, & we still only lost by 3.
lack of execution does not mean the game plan wasn't good. Honestly i wasnt that much different than we we did all year. Just lacked execution
Posted on 7/12/18 at 10:33 am to SammyTiger
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It seems like he did a lot more than cut back on preanap motions, and it didn’t work.
im sorry, but you're going to have to be more specific. Didnt work when? against Troy?
Posted on 7/12/18 at 10:33 am to Lester Earl
All gameplans are good if you execute them perfectly.
I personally Think changing the wholenoffense before the game hurt execution.
I personally Think changing the wholenoffense before the game hurt execution.
This post was edited on 7/12/18 at 10:37 am
Posted on 7/12/18 at 10:38 am to SammyTiger
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I personally Think changing the wholenoffense before the game hurt execution.
what do you think was that much different?
and what does changing the offense have to do with fumbles or the panicky interception Myles Brennan threw?
This post was edited on 7/12/18 at 10:41 am
Posted on 7/12/18 at 10:41 am to RogerTheShrubber
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All coaches "interfere"
All don't and some of them shouldn't.
Posted on 7/12/18 at 10:42 am to SammyTiger
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All gameplans are good if you execute them perfectly.
Exactly.
You know where the ball carrier ends up when you draw up a toss dive on the old chalk board...?
Touchdown, baby.
If everyone makes their block perfectly and the RB makes his man miss, it works every time.
What if you run that play exclusively and after the first 2 times of you scoring on it it begins to get shut down? Would it be truer to then blame the game plan that continues to run the same ineffective play over and over, or on the players not executing?
This post was edited on 7/12/18 at 10:44 am
Posted on 7/12/18 at 10:46 am to Lester Earl
If you are fucusing in what play you’re running instead of holding onto the ball or trying to make new reads you aren’t familiar with, you’re going to turn the ball over more.
Regardless, we also punted like 5 times and had a drive end on downs.
It’s not like we turned the ball over or scored, we had like 13 possessions. We squandered about half of them just not
Moving the ball.
Regardless, we also punted like 5 times and had a drive end on downs.
It’s not like we turned the ball over or scored, we had like 13 possessions. We squandered about half of them just not
Moving the ball.
Posted on 7/12/18 at 10:50 am to SammyTiger
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If you are fucusing in what play you’re running instead of holding onto the ball or trying to make new reads you aren’t familiar with, you’re going to turn the ball over more.
I love this board.
How do you write this with a straight face
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It’s not like we turned the ball over or scored, we had like 13 possessions. We squandered about half of them just not
Moving the ball.
Well, we struggled in a lot of games on offense. Guice was hurt most of the year, he didn't even play in this game. Sadiq Charles made his first start on the line. If you can tell me exactly what we did differently, then maybe i can accept your point.
Posted on 7/12/18 at 10:56 am to Lester Earl
How can you not understand the idea that’s familiarity with an offense cuts down on Turnovers and improves overall offensive efficiency.
We cut back on shifts and motion. That’s the not only visible difference between the first and second half.
I will admit that I am Sorta poeceing together the rest, but when players are saying that we ran plays from last year and we needed to get back to the offense we installed in the spring (Etling and Clapp after the game) and that players didn’t know the offense (Malone post game) it’s pretty clear serious changes were made.
We cut back on shifts and motion. That’s the not only visible difference between the first and second half.
I will admit that I am Sorta poeceing together the rest, but when players are saying that we ran plays from last year and we needed to get back to the offense we installed in the spring (Etling and Clapp after the game) and that players didn’t know the offense (Malone post game) it’s pretty clear serious changes were made.
Posted on 7/12/18 at 10:58 am to nvasil1
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We're talking about actually calling plays from a different offense than the OC you hired is used to
exactly!
Posted on 7/12/18 at 11:57 am to schwartzy
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. When O tried to interfere with Canada
Why do people still pretend not to understand why O interfered with Canada?
Posted on 7/12/18 at 12:04 pm to pitchandcatch27
No. This is not Canada.
Ensminger played for LSU, he’s more beloved than O
Ensminger played for LSU, he’s more beloved than O
Posted on 7/12/18 at 12:06 pm to bencoleman
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Why do people still pretend not to understand why O interfered with Canada?
Oo oo can I guess? Was it his over-inflated ego and his inability to properly articulate what his actual vision for LSU's offense is?
Posted on 7/12/18 at 12:14 pm to schwartzy
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When O tried to interfere with Canada, that’s when fights broke out because Canada was told he’d have full autonomy.
I seriously doubt any new OC has 100% autonomy. even vets; saban damn sure didn't give Kiffin 100% autonomy.
I know one thing; Canada's offense was fricked up early in the season. do you not remember the massive amount of penalties? I don't know the extent of Orgerons involvement but as the HC he damn sure needed to do something. I suspect Canada got a big arse chewing and he couldn't take it.
you don't have to be making over a mil/yr to get your arse chewed but if you do make that, you need to get results. our offense was confused and being run ragged by all of those shifts.
Posted on 7/12/18 at 12:18 pm to LSU GrandDad
Why do people think that all coaches are the same?
Saban’s pith was never “I’m gonna let me coaches coach”
He is a well known micromanager but also a football genius, and the GOAT college FB coach.
People keep saying massive amounts of penealties but a lot were holding and unsportsmanlike conduct.
That’s not scheme related, it’s discipline.
Saban’s pith was never “I’m gonna let me coaches coach”
He is a well known micromanager but also a football genius, and the GOAT college FB coach.
People keep saying massive amounts of penealties but a lot were holding and unsportsmanlike conduct.
That’s not scheme related, it’s discipline.
Posted on 7/12/18 at 12:22 pm to pitchandcatch27
E set records. Canada offense was struggling with freshman oline trying to learn on the fly and shift everywhere. Along with the worst red zone offensive play calling. I don’t blame O for askin Canada not to shift as much. Ensminger will be able to do what he wants because O trust him
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