re: Does a 7-5 regular season get Miles fired??

He is safe until donations to TAF are affected and season ticket renewals drop. As long as over 99% of season ticket holders renew, they won't care. When the money goes away, then Miles becomes expendable.

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Soft Parade

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My man u obviously didnt catch my sarcasm

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The 3 year removed BS is just that, BS.

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If that's the case, then you should have no problem pointing out to us the NC coach 3 years removed from his NC, winning, and in good standing within the community who was fired.

I don't think you will be able to cause it hasn't happened and you can stomp your feet and whine like a 2 year old all you want, but it's not gonna happen here either. imo

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I wish I had the luxury of being able to refute things without giving a reason as to why.

Miles in 5 years: 11-2, even, up, down, up
Coker in 6 years: 12-0, down, down, down, even, down

The fact that Miles won a championship in year 3 whereas Coker did in year 1 isn't even disputable.

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you people refuse to look at the circumstances surrounding anything.

Coker 12-0, 12-1, 11-2 (3 BCS Bowls)
Miles 11-2, 11-2, 12-2 (2 BCS Bowls)

Coker played in the NC game 2 of his first 3 years. in 2003, college football had three 12-1 teams (including Saban's LSU squad) vying for the NC game. unfortunately for Coker in '03, he didn't have the luxury of being able to back his 2 loss Miami team into the NC game in the final week of the season.....only after #1 and #2 losing, jumping a higher ranked SEC team (having an identical regular season record), jumping a higher ranked one loss, non-traditional big-12 team, and jumping a higher ranked team you beat in the second game of the season.

if you want to get technical, Miles actually declined after his first season.

regular season 2005: 10-1 (7-1) losing to Georgia in SECCG. we'll blame that one on Katrina.
regular season 2006: 10-2 (6-2) same number of SEC games, one more loss.
regular season 2007: 10-2 (6-2) same number of losses as in '06, but the SECW blew. ultimately benefitted from a crazy college football season.

had Coker gone 11-2, 11-2, and 12-2 in his first three seasons, he wouldn't have sniffed a NC. Coker ultimately declined (as Miles is doing now), but the man went undefeated (regular season) in his first two seasons, EARNING two national championship game appearances. the circumstances surrounding the regular season, crazy or not, dictate the post season.

bottom line, Coker went 11-0, 12-0, and 10-2 in his first 3 regular seasons. Miles went 10-1, 10-2, and 10-2. you're absolutely right. you can't compare Coker to Miles....because COKER WAS BETTER.

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Go back and look at the recruiting class of 2005 and the attrition since and tell me what Miles "should" have done in 2008 and 2009.

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Attrition is a recruiting problem. Either he didn't recruit players who were good enough and they quit when they couldn't make it, or he didn't handle them right and they quit, or they weren't worthy in the first place and he shouldn't have signed them.

The coach is responsible for the talent he has, except at the beginning of his tenure when he hasn't had time to stock the team with his recruits.

So, what he "should" have done in 2008 and 2009 is have good seasons by relying on the talent he recruited in 2005, 2006, etc. and developed in the interim.

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hypothetically, if he can get a job making half of what he made at LSU, or more, LSU's annual payments under the buyout would be zero

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Nobody's going to pay him nearly $2 million a year.

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He's also obligated under the terms of the contract to try to find work.

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Well, he's obligated under the terms of the contract to actually work while he's here, too, but we see how that's working out.

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you people refuse to look at the circumstances surrounding anything.

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Perhaps it's you who is doing the refusing to look at the circumstances surrounding the 2 coaches you reference.

Coker won his NC in year one and was fired in year 6. Miles won his NC in year 3 which is a little more than 2 years ago. Coker's winning percentage never improved from one year to the next and year 6 was 54%. Miles winning percentage did show improvement from year 4 to year 5 and has never been lower than 62%.

All that aside, Coker lost control of his players both on the field and off to the point where the governor of Florida called the actions of his team an embarrassment to the state.

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The NC requirement is rather arbitrary

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Perhaps, but that doesn't negate the fact that those who win one get treated differently than those who don't. Believe it or not, but winning a BCS college football NC IS a very big deal and it does separate one from bout 99% of their peers.

Doesn't mean they will never get released, but it does mean that NC has given them time to right the ship that might not be given to those without the NC. imo

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Perhaps, but that doesn't negate the fact that those who win one get treated differently than those who don't. Believe it or not, but winning a BCS college football NC IS a very big deal and it does separate one from bout 99% of their peers.

Doesn't mean they will never get released, but it does mean that NC has given them time to right the ship that might not be given to those without the NC. imo

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If it was up to Nuts4LSU, Bear Bryant would have been fired after the 1970 season.

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If it was up to Nuts4LSU, Bear Bryant would have been fired after the 1970 season.

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Or Bobby Bowden when he went from 3 losses in two years, 79, 80, to 12 losses in 3 years, 81-83.