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re: Does a 7-5 regular season get Miles fired??

Posted on 4/22/10 at 7:07 pm to
Posted by Nuts4LSU
Washington, DC
Member since Oct 2003
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Posted on 4/22/10 at 7:07 pm to
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We can easily lose to:
-UNC
-West Virginia
-Florida
-Alabama
-Auburn
-Arkansas


Yes, but you left two more teams off that list that should be on it...Ole Miss and Tennessee.
Posted by Jrv2damac
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Posted on 4/22/10 at 7:09 pm to
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Nuts4LSU


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Posted by Nuts4LSU
Washington, DC
Member since Oct 2003
25468 posts
Posted on 4/22/10 at 7:17 pm to
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UNC - had a worse offense than LSU last year and many are questioning the legitimacy of their defense.


Who is questioning the legitimacy of their defense? As for offense, only 8 teams were worse than LSU last year.
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West Virginia - has no semblance of defense and no offense outside of Noel Devine

I bet they have a better defense than a crippled Louisiana Tech, or ULL, or Mississippi State. We didn't score over 31 points on any of them. Still, playing at home, we can win this game.
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Florida

Forget it. No matter who they lost, no matter who gets hurt, no matter what, they will beat LSU, especially in the Swamp.
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Alabama - will be potent on offense, but the defense outside of Donta' Hightower is laughable.

NO defense is laughable to the #112 offense. Besides, you are deluded if you think they won't have a better defense than we do. Again, like with Florida, just forget about this one from now on. No way in hell, under any circumstances, even with divine intervention, does LSU beat Alabama again while Les Miles and Nick Saban are looking at each other from opposite sides of the field.
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-Auburn

-Arkansas -


Along with Ole Miss and Tennessee, are about our equals. All of these games could go either way, and home field will probably be a big factor in all four of them.

We have two games we cannot win, two we probably will not win, and four that can legitimately go either way. To expect better than 3-5 in those eight games is unreasonable. That's splitting the tossups 2-2 and splitting the two we probably won't win 1-1. That's five losses right there, before we even talk about a Mississippi State team that came within one inch of beating us and a Vanderbilt team that took us into the fourth quarter within one score at our place, both last year.

7-5 or worse is more likely than 8-4 or better.
Posted by Jaketigger
Baton Rouge Area
Member since Feb 2008
5064 posts
Posted on 4/22/10 at 7:23 pm to
no
Posted by Lonnie4LSU
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2008
9525 posts
Posted on 4/22/10 at 7:28 pm to
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2 years of mediocrity they have given LSU


That's your words and you are welcome to them, but they aren't mine and LSU was housed in the Top 20 at years end and not the mediocre 20.

Spin it all you want, but being ranked in the Top 20 of all college football teams is not a negative and neither is it an example of mediocrity.

Posted by Soft_Parade
North Carolina Coast
Member since Sep 2005
2613 posts
Posted on 4/22/10 at 7:41 pm to
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They are going up and we are going down and this is not up for debate.


This
Posted by XbengalTiger
New Bama Standard...4 Losses.
Member since Oct 2003
5609 posts
Posted on 4/22/10 at 7:43 pm to
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As for the "voice of reason", that's in your sig line.
Dude, you need to take a xanax and step away from the keyboard... As far as the sig line, we will beat one of those teams this year and you will have your crow served up along with all the other rantards predicting a 5 to 7 win season.
Posted by Choctaw
Pumpin' Sunshine
Member since Jul 2007
77774 posts
Posted on 4/22/10 at 7:50 pm to
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The difference was, back then, 9-3 with a Capital One Bowl loss was the down year between much better ones,


8-4
10-3
8-5
13-1
9-3

Actually...it was about average for back then. There was one "much better" season.
This post was edited on 4/22/10 at 7:51 pm
Posted by matt314
Member since Oct 2009
183 posts
Posted on 4/22/10 at 7:50 pm to
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Choctaw:
....and Miles is one of the most successful coaches in LSU history.



It would be hard not to be looking at what we had in the 90's and the way CFB has changed. Give Charlie Mac three rent a wins (including two a year against in-state schools that have never ever beaten LSU and Mac would have never been able to schedule) and his winning percentage would be great too. He would have been laughed at for suggesting it. You virtually have to petition the NCAA not to have to go to a bowl today. In years past you had to earn it. For the same reason all kinds of mediocre coaches are setting win and percentage records at their schools. Your argument is inflated BS.

Drop the La cupcakes and Miles is 6-5 and 7-4 over the last two years, beaten by Nutt for three years in a row and losing 8 SEC games. Congrats on that winning percentage.

Miles is a good guy and not the worst coach LSU has ever had by a long shot but he is drowning right now and all the bogus arguments for his excellence in the world are not going to help him. He could well be the fifth best coach in the SEC West.

Time will tell. I only wish Les could tell time.
This post was edited on 4/22/10 at 7:58 pm
Posted by Choctaw
Pumpin' Sunshine
Member since Jul 2007
77774 posts
Posted on 4/22/10 at 8:00 pm to
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would be hard not to be looking at what we had in the 90's and the way CFB has changed. Give Charlie Mac three rent a wins (including two a year against in-state schools that have never ever beaten LSU and Mac would have never been able to schedule). He would have been laughed at for suggesting it. You virtually have to petition the NCAA not to have to go to a bowl today


Don't care about the shitty bowls...this is about wins...and Miles has alot of them no matter how you want to spin it. By the way...McClendon played Rice and Tulane EVERY year.


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For the same reason all kinds of mediocre coaches are setting win and percentage records at their schools.


like who?

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Drop the La cupcakes and Miles is 6-5 and 7-4 over the last two years, beaten by Nutt for three years in a row and losing 8 SEC games. Congrats on that winning percentage.


He's had a couple of subpar years....lets fire him.

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Time will tell. If only wish Les could tell time.


How long have you been holding on to this gem?



Posted by goosedfw
Member since Sep 2005
623 posts
Posted on 4/22/10 at 8:04 pm to
I definitely agree with you matt314. Everyone goes to a damn bowl game,gets an auto 3 wins a year. Someone posted earlier that it will be hard to fire him bc of his NC 3 years ago and his record the first 3 years at LSU. We all know though that in this day and age everyone including the major donors,students,season ticket holders,and the AD all have short memories. No one can deny this program has been going in the wrong direction on the field the last 2 years.
Posted by Lonnie4LSU
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2008
9525 posts
Posted on 4/22/10 at 8:22 pm to
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No one can deny this program has been going in the wrong direction on the field the last 2 years.


08

7-5 in the regular season, 7th in the SEC, Peach Bowl, and non-ranked.

09

9-3 in the regular season, 3rd in the SEC, Capital One Bowl, and nationally ranked.

Where is the "wrong direction"?

Posted by matt314
Member since Oct 2009
183 posts
Posted on 4/22/10 at 8:28 pm to
Uh, Rice and Tulane have beaten LSU. One year Rice was LSU's only loss. We also play Troy who has never beaten us and Middle Tenn State, who has never beaten us, and Texas Somebody who has never beaten us etc. Miles can't keep his job by continuing to pad his record with these guys. You can't possibly believe that the eras are comparable. That would be just silly.

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like who?

Mack Brown over Royal at Texas
Bob Stoops over Wilkinson at OU
Tressel over Hayes at OSU
Coker over Davis at Miami
Petersen over just about everybody at Boise
etc.

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Don't care about the shitty bowls...this is about wins...and Miles has a lot of them no matter how you want to spin it.


So bowls don't count as wins. Tell Joe Paterno to delete 'em. Coker had lots of them too. That's the point.

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He's had a couple of subpar years....lets fire him.


No, they have not been subpar and we won't fire him. He's had two decent Les Miles years. I think you'll find the last two year to be par for Les. And he'll have a chance to prove it because he won't get fired till 2012. Combination of the buyout being gone and 4 mediocre seasons. By then he will have earned it.
Posted by ForeLSU
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Member since Sep 2003
41525 posts
Posted on 4/22/10 at 8:34 pm to
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And in some parts. A laughing stock of the country.


we're discussing the team dorky_v, not the fans like you

Posted by JawjaTigah
On the Bandwagon
Member since Sep 2003
22932 posts
Posted on 4/22/10 at 8:35 pm to
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He's had two decent Les Miles years.
Yes. But that's not good news for LSU fans who had grown accustomed to being factors in college football. Decent CLM years are mediocre LSU years when the quality of play and player development barely keeps us from losing to lesser opposition, and costs us games (like UM and the clock fiasco game) that could have been won.

Call me hard to please, but after over a decade of frustration in the Archer, Hallman, Dinardo years, I got used to seeing LSU play hard, smart, dominant football in the first five years of the 2000s and I liked it. Even willing to give CLM props for his first 3 years at the helm. But paying a coach as much as we do CLM, I kind of expect it to continue. But he's not producing at that level and I see no magic wand that is going to change that in 2010.
This post was edited on 4/22/10 at 8:36 pm
Posted by Choctaw
Pumpin' Sunshine
Member since Jul 2007
77774 posts
Posted on 4/22/10 at 8:40 pm to
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Uh, Rice and Tulane have beaten LSU. One year Rice was LSU's only loss. We also play Troy who has never beaten us and Middle Tenn State, who has never beaten us, and Texas Somebody who has never beaten us etc. Miles can't keep his job by continuing to pad his record with these guys. You can't possibly believe that the eras are comparable. That would be just silly.



Your point was Miles pads his stats (so does every coach by the way) by playing cupcakes...all i did was point out the Mcclendon also played cupcakes. Miles isn't the first LSU coach to schedule easier schools...remember UAB?

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For the same reason all kinds of mediocre coaches are setting win and percentage records at their schools


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Mack Brown over Royal at Texas
Bob Stoops over Wilkinson at OU
Tressel over Hayes at OSU
Coker over Davis at Miami
Petersen over just about everybody at Boise


Yea...those are some real "mediocre" coachess right there.

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So bowls don't count as wins. Tell Joe Paterno to delete 'em. Coker had lots of them too. That's the point.


I really don't understand your argument here...ofcourse they count as wins. I don't even know what your point with the bowls was in the first place.

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No, they have not been subpar and we won't fire him. He's had two decent Les Miles years. I think you'll find the last two year to be par for Les. And he'll have a chance to prove it because he won't get fired till 2012. Combination of the buyout being gone and 4 mediocre seasons. By then he will have earned it.


Thank you Nostradamus.


This post was edited on 4/22/10 at 8:47 pm
Posted by Nuts4LSU
Washington, DC
Member since Oct 2003
25468 posts
Posted on 4/22/10 at 8:50 pm to
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You come up with some of the most retarded analogies i've ever read.


Some idiots teaching school in the early 20th century thought Albert Einstein was retarded, too.

Moral: When an idiot calls you retarded, you're probably not.
Posted by Nuts4LSU
Washington, DC
Member since Oct 2003
25468 posts
Posted on 4/22/10 at 8:52 pm to
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As far as the sig line, we will beat one of those teams this year and you will have your crow served up along with all the other rantards predicting a 5 to 7 win season.


I hope so and wish it were so, but unfortunately, you will be deleting that sig line very quietly in a few months when it becomes obvious that I was right, and no one will point it out, certainly not me.
Posted by matt314
Member since Oct 2009
183 posts
Posted on 4/22/10 at 8:52 pm to
Coker over Davis at Miami

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Yea...those are some real "mediocre" coachess right there.


Figured you'd jump that one. Reason I added Coker. Could have put Mangino there too.

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I really don't understand your argument here...ofcourse they count as wins. I don't even know what your point with the bowls was in the first place.


Let me explain it. You're bragging on Miles wins and the point is he plays 12 game plus a bowl The bowl nowadays is just about mandatory for LSU. In Mac's day you played 10 and had to earn a bowl. You can't get wins if you don't play games. LSU's best team under Mac went 9-1 and declined a bowl game.

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Thank you Nostradamus.


You're welcome Socrates.

This post was edited on 4/22/10 at 8:54 pm
Posted by Choctaw
Pumpin' Sunshine
Member since Jul 2007
77774 posts
Posted on 4/22/10 at 8:56 pm to
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Some idiots teaching school in the early 20th century thought Albert Einstein was retarded, too.

Moral: When an idiot calls you retarded, you're probably not.


i didn't say you're retarded...i said your analogies are. You jumped to that conclusion all by yourself.
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