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re: Does a 7-5 regular season get Miles fired??
Posted on 4/22/10 at 3:39 pm to goosedfw
Posted on 4/22/10 at 3:39 pm to goosedfw
8-4 and he is gone. I am certain of this. The reason is not just about what is going on at LSU, it is what is going on at Bama and Florida. They are going up and we are going down and this is not up for debate. I hope we go 10-2 or better, but it is about the direction of the program and a 7/8 win season would soldify that we are in a steady decline. Anyone invovled with the program knows that it takes a while to come back if you wait too long to pull the trigger. The buyout doesn't mean shite.
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Posted on 4/22/10 at 3:44 pm to Springlake Tiger
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Springlake Tiger
Finally someone with some sense!
Posted on 4/22/10 at 4:10 pm to TheBaker
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but to answer your question, for the same reason he didn't do it in 2002. 2004 was a new team just like 2002 was a new team.
So i guess they needed some coaching since they were a new team and didn't know anything in '04 yet managed to win a NC in '07
Posted on 4/22/10 at 4:11 pm to JawjaTigah
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Let's see. We had Mike Archer who took LSU up before he took LSU down. We had Curley Hallman who just went down. And then we had Dinardo, who brought back the magic, then Teppered LSU into oblivion. And we had Nick Saban, who showed us LSU can become the powerhouse team we all believed possible - even when the record wasn't 10-1. LSU was always a factor in the SEC under Saban. Then came CLM, who for 3 years benefited from the Saban-coached football culture of excellence and effort that remained after Nick jumped ship. But in the last parts of 2007 and especially in '08 and '09 we got the full benefit of a CLM-coached LSU. Even with all the recruited talent, it wasn't pretty. And it likely won't be in '10.
"Blame Miles for everything, give him credit for nothing." -- the haters mantra
Posted on 4/22/10 at 4:21 pm to Choctaw
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Blame Miles for everything, give him credit for nothing." -- the haters mantra
No it's not. Jst b/c he won a National Championship doesn't mean he can go 8-4 year in and year out and expect every one to be ok with it.
This post was edited on 4/22/10 at 4:26 pm
Posted on 4/22/10 at 4:28 pm to Choctaw
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neither of these will happen
Sure it could.
Posted on 4/22/10 at 4:29 pm to Choctaw
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Miles curbstomped Coker's #1 defense in the Peach Bowl
Posted on 4/22/10 at 4:35 pm to Lee Chatelain
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No it's not. Jst b/c he won a National Championship doesn't mean he can go 8-4 year in and year out and expect every one to be ok with it.
So now 2 subpar years = year in and year out. And i've never said i was ok with the last two years, but atleast i give credit where credit is due instead of just blindly hating the guy because all the cool kids are doing it.
Some of you guys are actually trying to diminish the '07 NC for Christs sake....because doing otherwise would be giving Miles a little credit and we just can't have that.
This post was edited on 4/22/10 at 4:39 pm
Posted on 4/22/10 at 4:38 pm to Choctaw
To: Admin
Let everyone put there opinion it so people don't have to waste another key stroke again on this dumb question.
:beatdeadhorse:
Let everyone put there opinion it so people don't have to waste another key stroke again on this dumb question.
:beatdeadhorse:
Posted on 4/22/10 at 4:43 pm to Choctaw
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So now 2 subpar years = year in and year out.
"When" he has another subpar year, with all this so-called "talent," I'd say 3 years is year in/year out.
Question for you Chctaw, since you seem to be so damn smart? how many seasons of going 8-4 and being medicore are ok? How many seasons are looked over until LSU is back where they were in the 90's?
Posted on 4/22/10 at 4:48 pm to Springlake Tiger
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8-4 and he is gone. I am certain of this.
I am certain you are full of shite and a clueless clown.
What you say means LSU fires a coach with 6 winning yrs in a row and the best winning % in a 100 fricking years and a NC 3 years ago.
Stop doing drugs because you are killing what few brain cells you have left.
Posted on 4/22/10 at 4:56 pm to Lee Chatelain
quote:How many 8 win seasons has Miles had? I can only remember one but you keep talking like there have been many... Last year was a 9 win season and a 3rd place SEC finish, just like Saban had in his 5th year at LSU when he also finished in 3rd with 9 wins.
how many seasons of going 8-4 and being medicore are ok?
Posted on 4/22/10 at 5:52 pm to XbengalTiger
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I can only remember one but you keep talking like there have been many
I believe that's a projection of our future if Miles is retained. In other words, scare tactics to bring the non-cliff jumpers to their senses.
The sky is falling, the sky is falling and the only thing we can do to make things better is to fire our highest winning percentage coach in modern history three seasons after said coach won a BCSNC.
Don't ask me what is going on cause, dope that I am, I can't see past "51-15".
Posted on 4/22/10 at 6:28 pm to XbengalTiger
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Last year was a 9 win season and a 3rd place SEC finish, just like Saban had in his 5th year at LSU when he also finished in 3rd with 9 wins
The difference was, back then, 9-3 with a Capital One Bowl loss was the down year between much better ones, but now, 9-4 with a Capital One Bowl loss is the big bounce back year AFTER the down year when we did even worse. And next year, we have to replace 13 starters from that stellar ride through the 2nd tier of conference and bowl glory.
Posted on 4/22/10 at 6:36 pm to Choctaw
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Well since you said Corky could coach those teams with success, why couldn't Saban do it in '04 with the same players.
If we didn't get screwed at Auburn in '04 (almost as bad as we did in '06), that team goes 10-1 and probably beats Tennessee in the SEC championship game, plays in the Sugar Bowl and finishes no worse than 11-2 and ranked in the top 10. And the Capital One Bowl is a joke to bring up. He'd already quit and didn't give a shite. He spent the whole bowl preparation period negotiating with the Dolphins and getting ready to take over their franchise. He also suspended Jamarcus Russell for three quarters. Even with all that, we still had the game won until the refs decided not to call obvious offensive pass interference on the last play hail mary. To use 2004 as any kind of indication of what Saban was doing at LSU is just ridiculous.
Posted on 4/22/10 at 6:48 pm to Lonnie4LSU
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why would LSU fans not defend their own coach who has guided their team to the overall must successful 5 year period under one coach in LSU history?
Because we don't think he "guided" us to that. He rode a wave to an inevitable run of success that was set up by five years of building a powerhouse from 2000 to 2004.
Les Miles has had two head coaching jobs in his career. In one, he took over an Oklahoma State program that was a loser, below his level. After a couple of rough years in which he went a combined 12-12, he brought the program to his level and went 16-9 over the next two years. In the other job, he took over an LSU team that was an elite powerhouse, above his level. After three great years in which he went a combined 34-6, he brought the program to his level and went 17-9 over the next two years.
Two jobs, two programs starting in two opposite places when he took over, and both programs gravitated to HIS level after his first two or three years' records were pretty much determined by what he inherited. HIS Oklahoma State program was 16-9 in two years, and HIS LSU program is 17-9 in two years. That's his level. The anomalies of his first two or three years when inheriting a program that was not at his level skewed his records for those first couple or three years at each school. Then, the REAL Les Miles showed himself. Twice.
Posted on 4/22/10 at 6:57 pm to Lonnie4LSU
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I'll hang with my team/coach cause I feel they deserve my support based on the 3 years of success and 2 years of mediocrity they have given LSU and others can do as they please.
It reads more accurately this way.
Posted on 4/22/10 at 6:59 pm to XbengalTiger
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Very sad when a rival SEC school has to be the voice of support for our coach because he sucks and they know that as long as he's here we won't be a factor...
Fixed that for you. As for the "voice of reason", that's in your sig line.
Posted on 4/22/10 at 7:02 pm to Lonnie4LSU
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NC has given them time to right the ship
But steering the ship off course in the first place is as bad as winning the NC was good. The ship was fine until he fricked it up.
Posted on 4/22/10 at 7:04 pm to Choctaw
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If it was up to Nuts4LSU, Bear Bryant would have been fired after the 1970 season.
And if it were up to you, Curley Hallman would still be coaching at LSU.
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