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re: Does a 7-5 record cost Alleva and O their job?
Posted on 7/7/18 at 12:32 pm to Tiger Lake
Posted on 7/7/18 at 12:32 pm to Tiger Lake
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Does a 7-5 record cost Alleva and O their job?
No. O keeps his job even at 6-6. Alleva might get fired though.
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Posted on 7/7/18 at 12:41 pm to Tiger Lake
No, he has this year and next. It's do or die for next 2 seasons.
Posted on 7/7/18 at 12:47 pm to 00 Tech Grad
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For now. It’s more inconvenient for most now to attend games than to stay home and watch them, which is what more will do if winning is no longer part of the game experience.
Agree completely and if LSU is no longer making money due to football not winning, changes will be made.
My point was, that IF Alleva is fired now, it would be because the board and boosters are not satisfied with the results Orgeron is producing on the field because other than that, Alleva is successful in his job because he is making money for the athletic department as of now. He would not currently be fired because he’s not making the department money. The only other reason (other than some kind of scandal) would be because the board and boosters are not satisfied with the status of the football program. If they are not satisfied with the current status of the football program, just firing Alleva and keeping Orgeron isn’t going to change that. Hence, Orgeron would be gone too.
Posted on 7/7/18 at 1:14 pm to Tiger Lake
If he does that two years in a row he should be gone IMO. No doubt about it. If he does end up with 7-5 then LSU better start a serious search for a new coach and he needs to be a home run.
Posted on 7/7/18 at 1:15 pm to Tiger Lake
It fricking should
Posted on 7/7/18 at 1:27 pm to mdomingue
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If I recall correctly, O has a contract through the 2019 season
2021
The three year contract was only mentioned by the most extreme defenders of that sham of a coaching search. They basically said “It’s only three years so if he isn’t getting it done we move on with no trouble”, and they repeated it often enough that others actually believed it.
Posted on 7/7/18 at 1:31 pm to terriblegreen
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Nope. 7-5 this year coupled with a 7-5 or 8-4 next year.
If he goes 7-5 this year I agree he's not getting fired. But we open in 2019 against Texas and Tom Herman. Lsing that game would be his coup de grace.
This post was edited on 7/7/18 at 1:32 pm
Posted on 7/7/18 at 1:59 pm to Tiger Lake
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Does a 7-5 record cost Alleva and O their job?
I'm with the camp that says Alleva - Yes, O - No. O is here two more years unless there's a massive meltdown.
And that's mostly because of the contingent of fans that has said 8-9 win expectations are a positive sign for the team. For that group, What's one less win? That will be the argument. "If only O had gone for it inside the 5, the team would have hit the 8 win expectation. You want to fire a coach over a 4th and goal decision where he would have won 8 games? He's good enough."
Book it. I actually think it could save Alleva's job as well, but I think logic will finally take over at that point.
Posted on 7/7/18 at 2:27 pm to Tiger Lake
7-5 gets both A and O on top of a hot seat list, seating side by side and watching game films together.
Posted on 7/7/18 at 2:36 pm to JustLivinTheDream
quote:I respectfully disagree. He gets 2 more seasons at that pace atleast. I just say that considering the recruiting has kept up. And you gotta give a college football coach some time imo. 3 full seasons of mediocrity is max.
If LSU loses 5 games Orgeron is getting fired.
Edit: Talking about O. Alleva should have already been gone.
This post was edited on 7/7/18 at 2:38 pm
Posted on 7/7/18 at 2:40 pm to Ryan3232
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Talking about O. Alleva should have already been gone.
What’s your reasoning behind that?
Posted on 7/7/18 at 2:53 pm to AshLSU
Any school with the means to compete, and was serious about competing, would have fired him on 11/27/16.
Posted on 7/7/18 at 2:58 pm to AshLSU
quote:O has had a year and a 4 games. Alleva has had 10 years...
What’s your reasoning behind that?
Edit: I wasnt ecstatic about the O hire which further proves my point of Alleva gone, but since we have O, give the dude some time. Thats all Im saying. Cant hire a college football coach and fire him after 2 seasons unless he falls flat on his face. He hasnt done that yet.
This post was edited on 7/7/18 at 3:02 pm
Posted on 7/7/18 at 3:21 pm to Ryan3232
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O has had a year and a 4 games. Alleva has had 10 years...
Edit: I wasnt ecstatic about the O hire which further proves my point of Alleva gone, but since we have O, give the dude some time. Thats all Im saying. Cant hire a college football coach and fire him after 2 seasons unless he falls flat on his face. He hasnt done that yet.
Ok. Let’s say they do that. Let’s say we go 7-5 this year, Alleva is fired, Orgeron is kept. What if next year Orgeron goes undefeated and wins the National Championship? Wouldn’t that validate Alleva hiring Orgeron?
Uh oh...... you already fired him.
Posted on 7/7/18 at 3:23 pm to MOT
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Any school with the means to compete, and was serious about competing, would have fired him on 11/27/16.
Probably. But they didn’t. So the point is moot.
Posted on 7/7/18 at 3:25 pm to AshLSU
Well no shite, but you asked for a reason and that was it.
Posted on 7/7/18 at 3:26 pm to MOT
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Well no shite, but you asked for a reason and that was it.
No. I asked for a reason you would fire Alleva and keep Orgeron.
If THE REASON you are firing Alleva is because THE FOOTBALL program is NOT living up to your expectations, what good does firing Alleva but keeping Orgeron do?
This post was edited on 7/7/18 at 3:28 pm
Posted on 7/7/18 at 3:29 pm to AshLSU
My mistake, I thought you were referring to the “Alleva should have already been gone” part.
Posted on 7/7/18 at 3:30 pm to MOT
No problem. All good.
Posted on 7/7/18 at 3:48 pm to Tiger Lake
I lean towards no but maybe a bowl win saves O if he does go 7-5. Whether we agree with it or not the admins will consider the schedule but 8-4 I would think is the floor.
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