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re: Do you know people that still think Les Miles "sucks"?

Posted on 9/12/12 at 4:11 pm to
Posted by GEAUXLSUFAN401
Member since Aug 2010
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Posted on 9/12/12 at 4:11 pm to
ignore them
Posted by lsuexpert57
Back Brusly
Member since Oct 2008
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Posted on 9/12/12 at 4:13 pm to
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I love LSU football but I get extremely frustrated by folks who want to anoint him the best coach in the country. These are the same folks that wanted to run him out of Baton Rouge after the Ole Miss and Tennessee debacles of the years past.


Dude you just don't get it. When you run a COLLEGE football program, being a success is about way more than just one or two parts of game coaching.

In CFB success is measured by wins and losses right?

The head football coach is responsible for every part of the program. Hiring the coaches, recruiting the players, coaching the players, coaching the coaches, handling the press, handling the players, do I need to go on?

To be a WINNING HC in CFB you gotta be good at a lot of things and when you WIN that means you ARE good at a lot of things.

When you have the BEST team in the country....then you ARE the best COACH in the country. Understand now?

We want to "anoint him the best coach in the country" because at WORST he is the 2nd best HC in the country!
Posted by LSU GrandDad
houston, texas
Member since Jun 2009
21564 posts
Posted on 9/12/12 at 4:15 pm to
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However, he's not a great football coach...and for that matter one could argue (with the blunders that he's had over the years) that he's not very good.


this is insane! every coach has occasional blunders and miles has had some very visible ones. to be held accountable years after they happen is crazy. AND other coaches get to skate for their frick-ups. insane i say. be honest, you are female and you are suffering right now. it's ok. hope you feel better tomorrow.
Posted by dgnx6
Member since Feb 2006
89763 posts
Posted on 9/12/12 at 4:16 pm to
I stated this in a thread rt before the first game. 2 guys in line at gas station were talking about if we had a chance to win a championship, one says not as long as miles is coach. Which is stupid, cus we won a championship last year.

I also recall miles haters saying he at least needs to challenge in the west and win in atlanta. Funny how all that changes to now he has to win a bcs championship every year.
Posted by liquid rabbit
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Posted on 9/12/12 at 4:21 pm to
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However, he's not a great football coach

No, not a great football coach is the one for an SEC team that loses to ULM, like Arkansas's head coach.


Wait, wasn't there some other SEC head coach that lost to ULM... let me think...
Posted by lsuexpert57
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Member since Oct 2008
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Posted on 9/12/12 at 4:24 pm to
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LSU Grandad


I say don't back off gramps. Along with you I've had CLM's back for a long time and put up with some of the worst, most ignorant and vile rants imaginable. I still remember many of the morons on here trumpeting that little turd Jaques Doucet, when he ambushed Les Miles on his radio show right after the Tenn game. The blood was in the water and the rantards were running wild. I don't belive people should just be let off for such terrible behaviour. You want to go out there and do and say such awful and stupid and hurtful things...then you should suffer the consequenses for your actions. How else are they gonna learn to not be so knee jerk in their reactions. Especially since it's a subject that they know so little about. I say spank em hard and keep spanking em til they learn better!





This post was edited on 9/12/12 at 4:25 pm
Posted by Mo Jeaux
Member since Aug 2008
63642 posts
Posted on 9/12/12 at 4:26 pm to
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people who still try to argue that Coach Miles "sucks" as a coach.


Are almost as annoying as people who think that he is above and beyond all criticism and/or that he cannot make mistakes.
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
48275 posts
Posted on 9/12/12 at 4:31 pm to
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Link me something from those coaches that is even in the same ballpark as the two links I posted in terms of stupidity. There might be some, but don't act like people pick on Les Miles game management because the grass is always greener. He is objectively a fool in his game management, even by the piss poor standards that are expected out of football coaches.



You're an idiot and an embarrassment to the LSU fan base. You don't deserve to have a winning program. You realize Saban has shite moments too right. In 2010 he had the entire 2011 defense plus a Senior qb, a first rd rb, first rd wr, first rd de and LOST THREE GAMES, Including blowing a 24 point lead to his arch rival. No coach is perfect. Mack
Brown had a time blunder two years ago.
Posted by makinskrilla
Lafayette, LA
Member since Jun 2009
9754 posts
Posted on 9/12/12 at 4:33 pm to
I generally avoid hanging out with idiots.
Posted by 2much8ntenough
New Orleans
Member since Aug 2008
419 posts
Posted on 9/12/12 at 4:36 pm to
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You say two examples as if they were small errors. They are both unforgivably stupid IMO. And it isn't just two errors, those are just the most egregious. You also have 07 Auburn, end of half vs '10 Arkansas, 1/9/12, insisting on sticking with Jefferson.


What ignorance. What about the ballsy calls made to win big games. We don't win FLA '07 (and the NC for that matter) without the 4th down conversions, the end around to Peterson against Bama, the fake fgoals, etc... You sound like my ex "Misery.". All the blame, no credit.
This post was edited on 9/12/12 at 5:00 pm
Posted by LSU GrandDad
houston, texas
Member since Jun 2009
21564 posts
Posted on 9/12/12 at 4:39 pm to
lsuexpert57

i agree with you concerning the real stupid posts (and probably stupid posters as well) but i was replying to the post that said sometimes we miles supporters fire cannons in retort when none is really needed at all. ie, it was just a minor critisism and not a blanket condemnation. i therefore agreed to back off on said cannon firing in that scenerio only. when one of those "miles is a yankee heathen moron" posts come up, i'll be firing, don't worry. and you did indeed hit the key word when you said ignorance. people that think miles is not a damn good football coach are ate up with it. you don't have to like a man to know he's good at what he does. and, in football, as it is in sales, the measuring stick is mathematical. if you win(sell) a lot, you're good; if not, you are not good.
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
48275 posts
Posted on 9/12/12 at 4:41 pm to
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Les miles is not a bad man in any way. He's likeable from every personal aspect and I respect him as a man/father. However, he's not a great football coach...and for that matter one could argue (with the blunders that he's had over the years) that he's not very good.



You dont put up the record he has , IN THE TOUGHEST CONF IN CFB, and not be a good coach. Period. Your statement is dumb.
Posted by lsusportsman2
Member since Oct 2007
27232 posts
Posted on 9/12/12 at 4:41 pm to
I had a friend sit next to me during the Washington game and when LSU decided to run the clock out at the end of the first half, my friend said, "Why the frick is he running out the clock? Do you seriously wanna run it out and get nothing when you get easily get a TD in less than 2 minutes? I never liked Les Miles. Just unbelievable. He does nothing but make mistake after mistake. Unbelievable." I really have not heard of anything that stupid in my entire life.
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
48275 posts
Posted on 9/12/12 at 4:43 pm to
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Bottom line is when we're winning nobody cares that he's goofy and somewhat brainless...but in 08-09 people knocked him for it.


I'm absolutely positive Miles is smarter than you. He has an economics degree from one of the most prestigious colleges in the US.
Posted by Weaver
Madisonville, LA
Member since Nov 2005
28124 posts
Posted on 9/12/12 at 4:47 pm to
Yep, My dad hates Miles. He wants Saban back.
Posted by brownjuco
Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2006
141 posts
Posted on 9/12/12 at 4:48 pm to
However, he's not a great football coach...and for that matter one could argue (with the blunders that he's had over the years) that he's not very good.



quote:

this is insane! every coach has occasional blunders and miles has had some very visible ones. to be held accountable years after they happen is crazy. AND other coaches get to skate for their frick-ups. insane i say. be honest, you are female and you are suffering right now. it's ok. hope you feel better tomorrow.


Man you guys are so sensitive. Everyone is entitled to their own opinion I guess. I'm not afraid to state my case as meh when it comes to Miles. I will give him his props though...he is a very good recruiter and he's surrounded himself with people who have made him better than he probably should be.

I know there will be people out their that say that wins and losses are the only thing to judge a coach by...and I say that's not true. What I will say though is that he's done a fantastic job of keeping the momentum from Saban's years...and one could argue that the last two years teams were better than the 03 team.

HOWEVER, a zebra doesn't change his stripes and he's good for another Miles moment here soon. I dare to say that when it happens this board will light up light a christmas tree and people will be calling for his head.

To sum it up, AGAIN, I think Miles is a great general manager of the program. But if Miles had to pick teams in the schoolyard against 10 other SEC coaches and just coach a football game when everybody else's players are as good as his....I'd be lying if I said I thought he'd win.

But then again what do I know.
Posted by brownjuco
Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2006
141 posts
Posted on 9/12/12 at 4:49 pm to
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I'm absolutely positive Miles is smarter than you. He has an economics degree from one of the most prestigious colleges in the US.


This post was edited on 9/12/12 at 5:19 pm
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
48275 posts
Posted on 9/12/12 at 4:51 pm to
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I'm a mechanical engineer dumbass.


And I'm a wizard.
Posted by brownjuco
Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2006
141 posts
Posted on 9/12/12 at 4:52 pm to
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And I'm a wizard.


and a dumbass.
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
48275 posts
Posted on 9/12/12 at 4:52 pm to
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I know there will be people out their


A mechanical engineer would know the difference between their and there. This wasn't a simple spelling error. You typed out the wrong word.
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