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re: Do you know people that still think Les Miles "sucks"?
Posted on 9/12/12 at 3:14 pm to Prominentwon
Posted on 9/12/12 at 3:14 pm to Prominentwon
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quote: 1/9/12 never forget I forgot about that shite on 1/10. Not my problem that you hold grudges.
This. The only way a fan is still bitter over 1/9 ,is if said fan ,let's LSU's football succes , define them as a person. This is actually what a lot of gumps do. They let Bama's football success define them as a person
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Posted on 9/12/12 at 3:24 pm to TheSexecutioner
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Link me something from those coaches that is even in the same ballpark as the two links I posted in terms of stupidity. There might be some, but don't act like people pick on Les Miles game management because the grass is always greener. He is objectively a fool in his game management, even by the piss poor standards that are expected out of football coaches.
So dude, I hate to rock your miserable, pessimistic little world...but stop and think a minute about what you are going on and on about. According to you, CLM is one of the WORST game managers to ever walk a sideline right? And yet, this poor miserable coach has produced more great LSU teams than any other coach EVER! Sooo perhaps being a good game manager is over rated as a skill a coach needs to have to be a winner right?
You seem to know some football, and you are right on about many points about football coaches in general making in game management mistakes...but CLM's record and production seem to undermine your contention that good "game managment" is a trait that is important to being a winning football coach.
Looks to me like being a good "game manager" or "clock manager" must be way down on the list of what traits one has to have to make a football team on of the top 2 teams in the country huh? CLM knows what it takes to make a CFB team one of the best, he has risen to the top of his profession and gets paid 4 million dollars a year to coach football and "manage games". Give it a rest man, give in to the empirical evidence. I don't know what you do for a living but I know it isn't coaching CFB. Les Miles has forgotten more football than you will ever know. What you need to figure out is what CLM is great at that makes poor game management a moot point. Just give in and enjoy the ride, try to learn what are the REAL traits that a winning CFB coach needs to have...cuz "game management" sure ain't one of em!
Posted on 9/12/12 at 3:32 pm to JonTheTigerFan
There are people here who are so sensitive and defensive about any criticism of Les Miles that if you say even the smallest thing negative about Les that they assume you think he sucks. Les is a good coach but no coach is above criticism or perfect. It's the bad fortune of Les that he is in the same division as the best coach in the country. That still doesn't take away from the fact Les is a top knotch coach.
Posted on 9/12/12 at 3:34 pm to JonTheTigerFan
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Do you know people that still think Les Miles "sucks"?
I know people who still try to argue that Coach Miles "sucks" as a coach. I just had one tell me "he's a great recruiter but sucks as a head coach." Do y'all know any idiots like this? How do you deal with them?
I dont think les miles sucks but I am not in the les miles fanclub. I think he needs to let his coordinaters coordinate.
Posted on 9/12/12 at 3:40 pm to peopleschamp
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There are people here who are so sensitive and defensive about any criticism of Les Miles that if you say even the smallest thing negative about Les that they assume you think he sucks. Les is a good coach but no coach is above criticism or perfect. It's the bad fortune of Les that he is in the same division as the best coach in the country. That still doesn't take away from the fact Les is a top knotch coach.
Agreed, but people seem to forget that if Saban is the consensus "best coach in the country"...then the best any other team can have for a coach is "the 2nd best coach in the country" right?
For me, the jury is still out. If LSU beats Bama in November, and then goes on to win the BCSNCG, is Saban still number one or is it Miles? I think it won't be settled until they are both retired and then we can look back and see who had the best results. "Results" after all are what we measure a CFB coach by.
Posted on 9/12/12 at 3:43 pm to JPLSU1981
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Yep, and with one in particular, it has basically ended any friendship that we once had.
We are cordial, but we simply cannot talk about LSU football with one another anymore without getting into a heated argument.
If you let LSU football end a friendship then what does that say about you?
Posted on 9/12/12 at 3:45 pm to brownjuco
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If you let LSU football end a friendship then what does that say about you?
Says he's a real goddamn Tiger fan that's what!
Posted on 9/12/12 at 3:48 pm to TheSexecutioner
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Very different situations. Saban probably chose the wrong choice out of two options, one better than the other. Miles chose the option that had zero value to it. There is no conceivable reason to not call a timeout against Ole Miss. There is a reason to try to kick a FG, even if it isn't a good enough of one.
Seems like you're covering for Saban, yet blasting Miles for each of their deficiencies.
You've said enough.
This post was edited on 9/12/12 at 3:57 pm
Posted on 9/12/12 at 3:50 pm to buddhavista
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I dont think les miles sucks but I am not in the les miles fanclub. I think he needs to let his coordinaters coordinate.
This.
Les miles is not a bad man in any way. He's likeable from every personal aspect and I respect him as a man/father. However, he's not a great football coach...and for that matter one could argue (with the blunders that he's had over the years) that he's not very good.
He is however a good general manager for our football program and for the most part he's hired good assistants. With that being said, he obviously lets chavis coach but gets his hands too involved with the offense.
I love LSU football but I get extremely frustrated by folks who want to anoint him the best coach in the country. These are the same folks that wanted to run him out of Baton Rouge after the Ole Miss and Tennessee debacles of the years past.
Bottom line is when we're winning nobody cares that he's goofy and somewhat brainless...but in 08-09 people knocked him for it.
Posted on 9/12/12 at 3:51 pm to bhtigerfan
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With the kind of talent Louisiana has, any decent coach could match his record."
Sweet. Whenever Miles retires or heads elsewhere, be sure to tell them to politic for Charlie Weis or Tyrone Willingham.
Posted on 9/12/12 at 3:51 pm to Prominentwon
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Sounds like you're covering for Saban, yet blasting Miles. You've said enough.
Too late, I already ran him off. After my post he is off reexamining his entire life and belief system. Sorta like those folks that used to go to Jimmy Swaggarts church!
This post was edited on 9/12/12 at 3:53 pm
Posted on 9/12/12 at 3:52 pm to lsuexpert57
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Says he's a real goddamn Tiger fan that's what!
Seriously...all kidding aside?
Posted on 9/12/12 at 3:55 pm to brownjuco
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Seriously...all kidding aside?
Of course not, I would NEVER put all kidding aside.
Posted on 9/12/12 at 3:56 pm to brownjuco
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brainless.
brainless doesn't achieve the success that Miles has had.
It's sad that you guys just want to nick pick about past games and ignore the overall picture.
I can understand if he had 1 good year....maybe 2......but the guy has been successful for a LONG time.
A "brainless" football coach doesn't win with Jordan Jefferson @ QB. Yes, he put himself in that position, but he also won a conference championship. The FIRST goal of ANY college or pro coach in the game.
Again, that says alot about him as a coach and it says alot about him being loyal/stubborn.
Posted on 9/12/12 at 3:57 pm to peopleschamp
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There are people here who are so sensitive and defensive about any criticism of Les Miles that if you say even the smallest thing negative about Les that they assume you think he sucks
shut up whore
Posted on 9/12/12 at 3:57 pm to TheSexecutioner
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If I was to compare Miles to somebody, it would be Mark D'antonio, who I believe is worlds ahead of any coach in the college game right now in terms of his game management.
So you would compare Miles to who is so far Saban's best understudy?
Posted on 9/12/12 at 3:58 pm to brownjuco
Les is a really good coach. Is he the best ever No!! He's better than 95% other coaches.
Willing to switch coordinators, recruits well, teches his players to take on game at a time (That's HUGE BTW)
Willing to switch coordinators, recruits well, teches his players to take on game at a time (That's HUGE BTW)
Posted on 9/12/12 at 4:03 pm to Tiger79
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Willing to switch coordinators, recruits well, teches his players to take on game at a time (That's HUGE BTW)
Not only that but he is GREAT....up there with the best EVER...at making his team TOUGH, both mentally and physically.
If you play football, you are in the HURT business and you damn well better be tough guy if you want to excel. This, IMO, is the most underrated side of CLM and one of the things that makes him better than most other coaches.
Posted on 9/12/12 at 4:03 pm to Rickdaddy4188
He is average.
Posted on 9/12/12 at 4:08 pm to peopleschamp
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There are people here who are so sensitive and defensive about any criticism of Les Miles that if you say even the smallest thing negative about Les that they assume you think he sucks.
maybe so but back in '09 i was a voice in the wilderness defending les miles and i guess i should get over the things said about him at that time. and even today, some of the posters say things like he's a moron; worst game mgr in history; stupid as hell, etc, etc. those aren't the "smallest things". also, EVERYTHING BAD THAT HAPPENS IN A GAME IS NOT THE COACHES FAULT. yet, if a player drops a pass, it's miles fault, etc, etc. i guess that's why i am oversensitive. but, you are right and i should back off.
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