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re: Do the umps make this call at Alex Box?

Posted on 5/31/25 at 2:46 pm to
Posted by BallChamp00
Member since May 2015
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Posted on 5/31/25 at 2:46 pm to
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Im sorry it isn’t. The rule is extremely clear


He is fielding the throw. The fact that he missed it has no meaning on this rule. The time from ball hitting mitt to collision is too close.
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
104735 posts
Posted on 5/31/25 at 2:46 pm to
The rule literally says you u have to “have a ball heading directly toward you” to be in front of the plate without the ball

Once the ball is not heading directly to you and you are without possession of it, explain how you can legally be there according to the actual written rule?
Posted by BallChamp00
Member since May 2015
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Posted on 5/31/25 at 2:47 pm to
You are trying to take the literal view of this rule. Use common sense man.

So a second baseman makes a play on a ball he boots it then the runner runs into him. What’s the call?
Posted by BallChamp00
Member since May 2015
7053 posts
Posted on 5/31/25 at 2:48 pm to
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The rule literally says you u have to “have a ball heading directly toward you” to be in front of the plate without the ball


The other rule says catcher is allowed to field ball in baseline.
Posted by Mickey Goldmill
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2010
25996 posts
Posted on 5/31/25 at 2:49 pm to
a. If the ball is in flight directly toward and near enough to the fielder (within 60 feet) that the catcher can make a legitimate effort to field the throw, he is in the act of fielding and can be blocking the runner's pathway.

Where was the ball at the point in time that the runner was first attempting to score (last few steps)? In the direct pathway to the catcher.
Posted by BallChamp00
Member since May 2015
7053 posts
Posted on 5/31/25 at 2:49 pm to
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lsupride87


You are cherry picking google answers instead of just using common sense.
This post was edited on 5/31/25 at 2:50 pm
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
104735 posts
Posted on 5/31/25 at 2:49 pm to
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You are trying to take the literal view of this rule. Use common sense man.
Dude that is exactly what replay did here

I agree it should never come to this point. But if you want to use the replay to dissect the ever loving shite out of it you kinda have to use the actual rule as written
Posted by WeeWee
Member since Aug 2012
42882 posts
Posted on 5/31/25 at 2:50 pm to
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What’s the runner supposed to do, stop and go around him? Jump over him? Stupidity on sports only gets worse every year.


Exactly. At this point they should just start playing sports in skirts. How is the runner supposed to know that the catcher was going to not catch the ball?
Posted by BallChamp00
Member since May 2015
7053 posts
Posted on 5/31/25 at 2:50 pm to
Your rule you are using is until fielding it. Then that rule is gone and the fielding rule applies. You are cherry picking and not even in order.
This post was edited on 5/31/25 at 2:51 pm
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
104735 posts
Posted on 5/31/25 at 2:51 pm to
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Where was the ball at the point in time that the runner was first attempting to score (last few steps)? In the direct pathway to the catcher.
Yep. You are getting it. So at that moment the catcher was in a legal position

But once the ball isn’t heading toward the catcher, and he lacked possession, he no longer is in a legal position according to the actual written rule

Is it not picky? Absolutely. It should never go to replay. But you can’t choose to go to replay and then reverse a call while actually not following the written rule
Posted by RobbBobb
Matt Flynn, BCS MVP
Member since Feb 2007
31206 posts
Posted on 5/31/25 at 2:53 pm to
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He did slide





Not a single part of his body touched the ground before he dove into the catcher.
Posted by Bacon84
Texas
Member since Oct 2012
1033 posts
Posted on 5/31/25 at 2:53 pm to
LMFAO.

You’re such a keyboard tough guy.
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
104735 posts
Posted on 5/31/25 at 2:53 pm to
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Not a single part of his body touched the ground before he dove into the catcher.
Dove into the catcher eh?

He is leaning backwards and literally attempting to slide

Posted by Mickey Goldmill
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2010
25996 posts
Posted on 5/31/25 at 2:55 pm to
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Yep. You are getting it. So at that moment the catcher was in a legal position But once the ball isn’t heading toward the catcher, and he lacked possession, he no longer is in a legal position according to the actual written rule


Are you serious? The rule doesn’t disappear. He’s legally there. That’s it. It’s over.

This is a single play at the plate. And he’s legally there. You really believe umps should look at this play and say, “yeah he was legal for a split second, but then he wasn’t so he should have jumped out of the way or something cause that’s obstruction now.”
Posted by RobbBobb
Matt Flynn, BCS MVP
Member since Feb 2007
31206 posts
Posted on 5/31/25 at 2:55 pm to
Selective editing. Skip forward a few frames and show me where he slides before hitting the catcher
Posted by BallChamp00
Member since May 2015
7053 posts
Posted on 5/31/25 at 2:55 pm to
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The sissy bag would have nothing to do with the defensive player crossing past the base


That extra bag is awesome and needed to be done. I guess you hated the netting down foul lines too.
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
104735 posts
Posted on 5/31/25 at 2:56 pm to
I think the umps should do exactly what they did. Call nothing
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
90020 posts
Posted on 5/31/25 at 2:56 pm to
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And if the runner beat the ball to the plate it would have been obstruction, but he didn’t. Instead the ball beat the runner putting the catcher in the act of receiving it so the runner had to slide.


I can’t imagine 13 pages of arguing what is one of the easier calls in baseball.
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
104735 posts
Posted on 5/31/25 at 2:58 pm to
I can’t imagine thinking a catcher blocking the baseline without the ball as the ball is already past him and the runner is attempting to slide in a completely normal time in front of the plate should result as an easy call for the runner to be out

It is egregious to watch this and ever think the runner should be out
This post was edited on 5/31/25 at 3:00 pm
Posted by CottonWasKing
4,8,15,16,23,42
Member since Jun 2011
29283 posts
Posted on 5/31/25 at 3:02 pm to
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Because by rule the catcher was obstructing.



Some of y’all have a real hard time reading a rule book. Catcher was in the process of fielding the ball. He has a right to the ball. It’s the runners obligation to avoid the catcher.
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