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re: Did Skip lose this many midweek games to instate schools?
Posted on 2/20/20 at 2:57 pm to winkchance
Posted on 2/20/20 at 2:57 pm to winkchance
Skip lost to every in state school at least once.
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Posted on 2/20/20 at 3:58 pm to winkchance
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If not, what was the reason for his success, was it just better teams?
There are many factors that went into his success. The two biggest imo was 1. He was a great coach that got a bunch of players on campus that had no business playing college ball and 2. He was basically competing against 10 schools on a yearly basis and the majority of the country treated baseball like a glorified intramural sport.
Posted on 2/20/20 at 4:04 pm to winkchance
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If not, what was the reason for his success
roid era, bats, etc.
obviously he was a great coach but he also had way more inbuilt advantages you'll never see in college baseball again
This post was edited on 2/20/20 at 4:05 pm
Posted on 2/20/20 at 4:43 pm to winkchance
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All Championship seasons for Skip - instate loses:
91 - NW, Tulane twice, McNeese
93 - NW, SW, McNeese
96 - NW twice
97 - UNO twice, NE
00 - McNeese twice
Don't show the CPM haters facts, they don't like facts!
Posted on 2/20/20 at 4:49 pm to LSUNV
No. Mainairi inherited what Smoke had.
Posted on 2/20/20 at 5:00 pm to LSUNV
quote:Wrong. Mainieri became head coach 5 seasons after Skip retired from coaching.
Maneri inherited what Skip built
And after 13 seasons at LSU why can't you spell the head baseball coaches name correctly??
Posted on 2/20/20 at 5:25 pm to winkchance
Skip lost SOME midweek games, of course. But not as many, on average, as Mainieri's teams do.
LSU's midweek pitching under Bertman was usually pretty suspect, and from time to time, cost LSU a game. But you could count on his offenses, far more often than not, to show up against the OTHER team's midweek pitching, which was worse than ours. Imagine that?
That's what frustrates me about current day LSU baseball. Guys just seem to take midweek games off, mentally. They don't lose slug-fests. The bats almost seem to surrender before the game starts.
It made me mad for a few years, but I've slowly become apathetic about midweek games. If they're not into it, it's hard for me to be.
LSU's midweek pitching under Bertman was usually pretty suspect, and from time to time, cost LSU a game. But you could count on his offenses, far more often than not, to show up against the OTHER team's midweek pitching, which was worse than ours. Imagine that?
That's what frustrates me about current day LSU baseball. Guys just seem to take midweek games off, mentally. They don't lose slug-fests. The bats almost seem to surrender before the game starts.
It made me mad for a few years, but I've slowly become apathetic about midweek games. If they're not into it, it's hard for me to be.
This post was edited on 2/20/20 at 5:28 pm
Posted on 2/20/20 at 5:44 pm to winkchance
Comparing Skip to pulmonary is like comparing Bill Bellicheck to Les Miles.
Posted on 2/20/20 at 6:12 pm to LSURussian
Jesus some of y’all yards still can’t comprehend that without Skip, there would be no baseball program as it is today. Mainieri inherited the program that Skip built and yes he did inherit Smokes players. He hasn’t won a NC since
Show some fricking respect for the man that made LSU baseball what it is today.
If you had lived through the Jim Smith and Jack Lamabe eras you would know better
Show some fricking respect for the man that made LSU baseball what it is today.
If you had lived through the Jim Smith and Jack Lamabe eras you would know better
This post was edited on 2/20/20 at 6:24 pm
Posted on 2/20/20 at 6:22 pm to LSUNV
quote:Please point out the part of my post that was fricking disrespectful to Skip. Thanks.
Show some fricking respect for the man that made LSU baseball what it is today
Posted on 2/20/20 at 6:27 pm to LSURussian
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inherited what Skip built
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Wrong. Mainieri became head coach 5 years after Skip retired
Sounded to me like you were saying Skip did not matter at that point, which he did
Like I said, I lived through the John Smith and Jack Lamabe years. It was terrible
This post was edited on 2/20/20 at 6:29 pm
Posted on 2/20/20 at 6:35 pm to LSUNV
quote:And it sounded to me you didn’t know Smoke Laval followed Skip for 5 seasons before Mainieri was hired. It still sounds like you didn’t remember that.
Sounded to me like you were saying Skip did not matter at that point, which he did
Posted on 2/20/20 at 7:18 pm to LSURussian
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"Don't be afraid to lose games in order to see who you can depend upon."
But Skip was losing an occasional mid-week game, not 4-5 per year. And his insertion of certain players into the lineups of mid-week games was very strategic so that they would have some pressure tests going into SEC play.
That being said, parity is indeed a real part of college baseball. And there are many players that are "nearly" good enough to play for LSU that end up at other state schools and develop into great players.
But there is no excuse for only scoring 2 runs against Nicholls.
Posted on 2/20/20 at 7:20 pm to LSUNV
They literally argue that what CPM has done is harder and more impressive than what Skip did lol.
Posted on 2/20/20 at 7:48 pm to winkchance
Skip lost to USL at least twice.
Posted on 2/20/20 at 8:18 pm to LongTime Tiger
quote:In Skip’s last season he lost 4 midweek games including losses to ULM, Southern and twice to Tulane.
But Skip was losing an occasional mid-week game, not 4-5 per year.
The season before in 2000, the year LSU won its last CWS under Skip, he lost TWICE to McNeese in midweek games and got swept by unranked Houston in a three-game weekend series.
In 1999 Skip lost 6 midweek games to USL, Northwestern, ULM (TWICE) and Tulane (TWICE).
It’s funny how our brain erases bad memories.
Posted on 2/20/20 at 8:25 pm to LSURussian
wut pulmonary
Posted on 2/20/20 at 8:27 pm to LSURussian
quote:
yes he did inherit Smokes players. He hasn’t won a NC since
Are you stupid? Read my post again! I said he inherited Smokes players? Got damn man
I know there is a lot of Johnny come lately LSU baseball fans but you are talking to one that has been around LSU baseball a long time. Have seen the good and the bad. So I have earned my dues to bitch about what and who I want. Get over it
This post was edited on 2/20/20 at 8:33 pm
Posted on 2/20/20 at 8:34 pm to Madking
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They literally argue that what CPM has done is harder and more impressive than what Skip did
I haven’t heard him say that but the ones that think that know little to nothing about LSU Baseball
This post was edited on 2/20/20 at 8:35 pm
Posted on 2/21/20 at 5:19 am to FlyingTiger69
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Oeaux lost to Troy. Should fire that guy too!!
Mainieri loses about 5 or 6 games a year that would be on par with losing to Troy. This is baseball so there really is no comparison!
That said, I've been ready for PM to retire since the Stoney Brook debacle. I think he would have been relieved of his duties by now, but for the reprieve he got with a "showing" in the 2017 CWS finals.
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