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re: Did I miss the NCAA announcement that there will be NO show cause penalty for Will Wade?
Posted on 3/2/23 at 1:23 pm to PP7 for heisman
Posted on 3/2/23 at 1:23 pm to PP7 for heisman
As noted above, Memphis.
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Posted on 3/2/23 at 1:24 pm to therick711
quote:Penny wasn't the head coach of Memphis. He was a high school coach paying a highschool player to relocate. As dumb as it sounds, that's a totally different situation.
They had "literal" payments to players/relatives from Penny Hardaway himself, see the Memphis result.
They were only considered level 2 and 3 violations, not level 1 violations.
This post was edited on 3/2/23 at 1:26 pm
Posted on 3/2/23 at 1:27 pm to PP7 for heisman
It was "deemed" different. It was not, in fact, different and was a violation because Penny became the coach and recruited him to Memphis.
The IARP result was calling an orange an apple, even though it is an orange because an apple does not require a sanction. What Penny did is prohibited. It was a "literal" payment as you said. Read what they had to say about it and the hoops they jumped through to make the orange an apple.
The proof is apparent from the ruling. Memphis was sanctioned because of the Wiseman incident which means it was a violation. Penny was not because the orange is an apple, you see. If what Penny did was not a violation, Memphis should not have received a penalty.
The IARP result was calling an orange an apple, even though it is an orange because an apple does not require a sanction. What Penny did is prohibited. It was a "literal" payment as you said. Read what they had to say about it and the hoops they jumped through to make the orange an apple.
The proof is apparent from the ruling. Memphis was sanctioned because of the Wiseman incident which means it was a violation. Penny was not because the orange is an apple, you see. If what Penny did was not a violation, Memphis should not have received a penalty.
This post was edited on 3/2/23 at 1:29 pm
Posted on 3/2/23 at 1:28 pm to therick711
Penny was a booster when the payment was made.
Wade was the head coach when the payment was made.
Those are different scenarios.
Wade was the head coach when the payment was made.
Those are different scenarios.
Posted on 3/2/23 at 1:31 pm to PP7 for heisman
Wade's wife was a booster when the payment was made. You (the IARP, not really you) can create whatever reality you want by calling the orange whatever fruit you want. It does not logically follow that what Penny did was ok, but it was a violation for Memphis. If the capacity of who did what matters, then the force of the argument applies just the same to Wade's wife as it does to Penny the booster as opposed to Penny the coach.
Posted on 3/2/23 at 1:32 pm to PP7 for heisman
quote:this wasn’t even from his time at LSU. If he was going to get in trouble for it he’d have gone down a long time ago. It’s a total nothing burger
I mean they have literal payments to players/relatives of players from Will Wade's wife's checking account.
Posted on 3/2/23 at 1:40 pm to PP7 for heisman
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Can you please show me which of these "numerous institutions" had their head coaches wife pay players directly, with the NCAA having proof of said payments?
But this never happened.
It was alleged he paid a girlfriend of a former player at VCU.
Posted on 3/2/23 at 1:55 pm to therick711
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They had "literal" payments to players/relatives from Penny Hardaway himself, see the Memphis result.
If Wade has a long history of providing cars to single mom’s he could use the same defense as Penny.
Also Memphis was still put in probation.
This post was edited on 3/2/23 at 1:56 pm
Posted on 3/2/23 at 2:03 pm to Flightnclouds
quote:Woodward is related to Emmert and has access to special considerations and inside information.
LSU didn’t have to do anything. Numerous instances have shown recently just give the NCAA the middle finger. Ole cheese fry woody folded.
I'm pretty sure Mark told Scott that the football program was going to be popped and if you jettison Wade, football will be "OK to Go."
That's the only thing that makes sense.
SW most likely didn't want to fire Wade and lose the entire team and all those 5 Stars coming in.
Pick your Poison. Either fire Will Wade and temporarily destroy the Basketball program OR the football program gets hit with sanctions.
He chose the lessor of two evils.......
Posted on 3/2/23 at 2:07 pm to therick711
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Wade's wife was a booster when the payment was made. You (the IARP, not really you) can create whatever reality you want by calling the orange whatever fruit you want. It does not logically follow that what Penny did was ok, but it was a violation for Memphis. If the capacity of who did what matters, then the force of the argument applies just the same to Wade's wife as it does to Penny the booster as opposed to Penny the coach.
That is quite a stretch, logically. But there is one other notable difference between WW and Penny which would mean things likely go worse for WW.
Posted on 3/2/23 at 2:13 pm to semjase
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Woodward is related to Emmert
His stepson is married to Emmert's daughter. But really, Woody and Emmert have been friends dating back to Emmert' LSU days, Woody was Emmert's right hand man.
From Wikipedia:
quote:
In 2000, Woodward was hired by LSU Chancellor Mark Emmert to serve as the Director of External Affairs at Louisiana State University. The position entailed being a liaison between LSU and government and corporate officials and acting as an advisor to Chancellor Emmert on policy and government appropriations. At LSU, Woodward also served as the Chancellor's Representative to the Athletic Department. He held these positions at LSU until leaving for the University of Washington in 2004.
Posted on 3/2/23 at 2:39 pm to mdomingue
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That is quite a stretch, logically.
It's a stretch logically that Penny can't be sanctioned for paying a recruit prior to taking the Memphis job and then recruiting him at Memphis because ... reasons.
Those reasons, according to IARP, are he has a history of paying all kinds of people and Hardaway played him because he "didn't know" that he had eligibility issues. Quite the whitewash.
This post was edited on 3/2/23 at 2:40 pm
Posted on 3/2/23 at 3:38 pm to nicholastiger
College basketball is no where near college football in terms of revenue. And LSU is a blue blood in football despite what the rant thinks.
Posted on 3/2/23 at 4:50 pm to PP7 for heisman
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PP7 for heisman
Last March: If we fire Wade we will avoid sanctions
This March: You idiot, see there will be no repercussions, we shouldn't have fired Wade
It's because we fired him you morons.
Posted on 3/3/23 at 7:57 am to barry
It's really, really cute how you believe the NCAA has any teeth left as far as enforcing penalties against a major brand like LSU.
Woodward capitulated to help his friend/in law out. Emmert has been raked over the coals through the years by the fordes and wolkens of the world, and Scott tried to relieve the pressure on Emmert by allowing the NCAA to "force" LSU to get rid of Wade, creating the illusion that the NCAA means business and is not to be messed with.
He also got the added bonus of keeping those same idiots off of his and LSU's back. They would have certainly unleashed a smear campaign against Woodward and the school.
Woodward capitulated to help his friend/in law out. Emmert has been raked over the coals through the years by the fordes and wolkens of the world, and Scott tried to relieve the pressure on Emmert by allowing the NCAA to "force" LSU to get rid of Wade, creating the illusion that the NCAA means business and is not to be messed with.
He also got the added bonus of keeping those same idiots off of his and LSU's back. They would have certainly unleashed a smear campaign against Woodward and the school.
This post was edited on 3/3/23 at 8:30 am
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