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re: Did BK misunderstand or not realize the level of expectations here?
Posted on 9/8/24 at 11:28 am to TopWaterTiger
Posted on 9/8/24 at 11:28 am to TopWaterTiger
GET OVER THE CONTRACT! 
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Posted on 9/8/24 at 11:32 am to sabbertooth
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It would have been better to give him guaranteed $3,000,000 for 5 years with $750,000 for 10 win season, $1,000,000 for SEC championship, $1,000,000 for get in playoffs and $1,000,000 for winning a national championship.
So your strategy of getting a Coach to LSU is to make them the lowest-paid Coach in the SEC?
Posted on 9/8/24 at 11:33 am to TDsngumbo
You know Woodward does more than hire football coaches right?
Posted on 9/8/24 at 11:36 am to Tammany Tom
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He completely whiffed on understanding the importance of Louisiana ties within his coaching staff in recruiting. By not retaining Baker and Raymond from O’s staff was a huge mistake.
I don't really blame him for getting rid of everyone from O's staff as the program needed a complete rebuild.
To Kelly's credit, he has since fixed this and got the Louisiana connections back on staff.
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Say what you will about the stupid mistakes that Miles and O both made, and all are legit, but what they both brought to this program was toughness and physicality.
We were so tough and physical those last two seasons of O.......
This post was edited on 9/8/24 at 11:37 am
Posted on 9/8/24 at 11:38 am to sabbertooth
A fully guaranteed $10M a year 10 year contract is ridiculous to give any coach. I can see guaranteeing a much smaller base say a $1M or $2M with the remainder being incentivized.
No reason to guarantee mediocrity when you’re paying those amounts for a high level of expectation.
No reason to guarantee mediocrity when you’re paying those amounts for a high level of expectation.
Posted on 9/8/24 at 11:42 am to John Casey
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I don't really blame him for getting rid of everyone from O's staff as the program needed a complete rebuild. To Kelly's credit, he has since fixed this and got the Louisiana connections back on staff.
Again… he whiffed on understanding the importance of hiring coaches with Louisiana connections that set us back 2 years. Yes, he has since corrected that, but we are still 2 years behind, because of that error of judgement.
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We were so tough and physical those last two seasons of O.......
We can all agree O quit after the title, this my emphasis on mistakes made by him and Miles. However, his teams up to, and through 2019, were physically tough. Thats not debatable.
Posted on 9/8/24 at 11:42 am to John Casey
Not at all. Use incentives to make him the highest paid. If he performs he makes measurably more than any coach. If not then he’s paid for what he does produce. If LSU ends up in the middle of the pack then he’s paid about half of what the coach who wins the title game is paid.
Posted on 9/8/24 at 11:42 am to ShockG082
Two years ago when we won the west and beat Bama were you saying this? 2 ten win seasons in a row.
Yeah this year doesn’t look good right now. But have some perspective. Not defending him - I’m mad too. But have some perspective.
Yeah this year doesn’t look good right now. But have some perspective. Not defending him - I’m mad too. But have some perspective.
Posted on 9/8/24 at 11:42 am to SloaneRanger
quote:I agree with this but it think Kelly’s tenure at LSU may very well be defined by his OC hire last year. If the co-OC arrangement fails he is screwed.
And on the offensive side of the ball he has mostly delivered
Posted on 9/8/24 at 11:44 am to Chinese Bandit Boy
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Getting mad and looking frustrated after every game is not the look of a $10 million SEC coach. What would Sabin do: “we played like sh** and it is my fault, thank you” and walk off.
When he doesn’t get fiery people say he doesn’t care, when he slams the table you say it’s not what Saban would do. At the end of the day, I care about results. Two ten win seasons in his first two years. He came into a worse situation than Les or O. Again I’m not saying he’s the best coach in the country or that he’s perfect but I don’t think I could name more than maybe three people I’d take over him. Obviously O gave us 2019 and I’m forever grateful but the program was going down the toilet after that. I think there are a lot of people we could’ve hired where the program would’ve continued to spiral downward. BK has stabilized us and I do believe we’re continuing to build a stronger foundation and trending upward. It’s just not at the pace that most fans want cause Saban spoiled us way back when.
Posted on 9/8/24 at 11:46 am to SpeedRacer89
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He won the SEC west his first year and ten games his second year
We giving Ed O any credit here? Or do we only use Ed as an excuse for Brian’s failures?
Posted on 9/8/24 at 11:52 am to ShockG082
wonder what Tim Rebowe would coach for at LSU?
Posted on 9/8/24 at 11:54 am to DSPurpleandGold
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If he performs he makes measurably more than any coach. If not then he’s paid for what he does produce. If LSU ends up in the middle of the pack then he’s paid about half of what the coach who wins the title game is paid.
This is something that works better in theory than in reality.
Posted on 9/8/24 at 11:55 am to ShockG082
Yes that’s it. BK didn’t know lsu expects to win 
Posted on 9/8/24 at 11:57 am to SpeedRacer89
quote:It is not 1974 with college teams playing 11 games and maybe a bowl.
Two ten win seasons in his first two years.
LSU has played 14 and 13 games in the seasons Kelly has coached, which means he’s lost 4 and 3 games respectively. Based on an era where winning 10 games mattered, he’s 7-4/8-3 coach.
Posted on 9/8/24 at 11:57 am to TDsngumbo
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Brian Kelly can go kick rocks. Scott Woodward too for giving such a massive contract to him. LSU always seems to find a way to frick itself and it is so damn frustrating.
How can u not see how delusional and stupid you are being. Yeah they screwed them selves into the current number 3 class in the nation. With possibly a franchise qb to top it off. Bad is what colorado has. Bad is what Clemson has to look forward to. LSU is in no way screwed. We are going to be fine. Kelly walked into an absolute dumpster fire. One of the worst rosters LSU has ever handed to a new coach. Y’all need to stop with this hysterical woman crying bullshite. You sound like the biggest pussies in the world.
Posted on 9/8/24 at 11:58 am to Chinese Bandit Boy
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Getting mad and looking frustrated after every game is not the look of a $10 million SEC coach.
You people are so obsessed with his body language and press conferences. When he’s calm you say he doesn’t care. When he’s angry you say that’s undignified. Just stop analyzing these things. It’s absurd.
Posted on 9/8/24 at 11:58 am to biglego
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Yes that’s it. BK didn’t know lsu expects to win
I know right. There are some incredibly stupid people on this board.
Posted on 9/8/24 at 12:00 pm to John Casey
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So your strategy of getting a Coach to LSU is to make them the lowest-paid Coach in the SEC?
Yeah they are acting like he was unemployed sitting on his couch and he would just accept any co tract lmao
Posted on 9/8/24 at 12:01 pm to TopWaterTiger
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My only gripe is the ridiculous contract we gave him. Just made no sense to do that.
Then you would have been stuck with someone like Shitty Napier and the LSU would have been set back decades as a program. No way it could survive the shitshow Ed Orgeron left followed by a disaster like Shitty Napier.
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