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re: Did anybody else notice Newton get the snap and just stand there?
Posted on 10/26/10 at 12:31 pm to Mudminnow
Posted on 10/26/10 at 12:31 pm to Mudminnow
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chavis put together one of the worst gameplans for an LSU defense in decades.
i know very little about coaching football but it looked like we didn't even have a plan
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Posted on 10/26/10 at 12:34 pm to Florida225
"Force him to pass?" How exactly do you do that? Suppose you had blitzed from the right. He would run left. Blitz from the left, run right. Bring the house on every play, receivers will be open with no one between them and the goal.
The plan, and it wasn't bad, was to keep in position and try to plug the field with some defenders still downfield if needed. A similar scheme shut down Georgia Tech's triple option offense two years ago. The problem comes if you can't stay in position to block all of the lanes. Fatigue is also a factor due to not sustaining drives on offense.
Sometimes the stupid on this board is more than I can bear.
The plan, and it wasn't bad, was to keep in position and try to plug the field with some defenders still downfield if needed. A similar scheme shut down Georgia Tech's triple option offense two years ago. The problem comes if you can't stay in position to block all of the lanes. Fatigue is also a factor due to not sustaining drives on offense.
Sometimes the stupid on this board is more than I can bear.
This post was edited on 10/26/10 at 12:36 pm
Posted on 10/26/10 at 12:37 pm to bmy
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he would have been able to throw to one of his uncovered WRs
you want to run blitz with 4 down linemen and 2 linebackers, who is gonna be doing the blitzing? you'd be leaving entire thirds of the field uncovered
What sport do you watch most after rugby, cricket, badminton, squash and table-tennis? It can't be football.
Posted on 10/26/10 at 12:38 pm to BhamTigah
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Considering Auburn's strong offense and weak defense, holding them to 24 points should be enough. Too many 3 and outs on offense killed us.
Im referring to the 440 yards rushing given up. Malleveto never gave up so many rushing yards nor 526 yards in offense (I dont think so).
I look at it, if the defense was able to get some stops it would have given our inept offense more chances to score. However Newton ran up and down the field at will and Chavis refused to make any adjustments.
Posted on 10/26/10 at 12:39 pm to bmy
How do you know this? Based on what? We never did it and they ran for 440yds. We have 2 great cover corners and after being run all over should have forced him to move the ball through the air idiot!
If you have facts that support runblitzing would have failed then please supply them. MSU runblitzed and he amassed a whopping 70 yds rushing.
If you have facts that support runblitzing would have failed then please supply them. MSU runblitzed and he amassed a whopping 70 yds rushing.
Posted on 10/26/10 at 12:40 pm to coachLSU
Baker and Francois playing horribly+ our DEs having a bad day as well probably made the game plan much worse looking than it was. I didn't like the plan, but I doubt shitty tackling was part of it....
Posted on 10/26/10 at 12:42 pm to Topwater Trout
MSU was on the road and it was like AU's second game. You couldn't expect us to copy that and get the same results.
Posted on 10/26/10 at 12:43 pm to TBoy
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"Force him to pass?" How exactly do you do that? Suppose you had blitzed from the right. He would run left. Blitz from the left, run right. Bring the house on every play, receivers will be open with no one between them and the goal.
The plan, and it wasn't bad, was to keep in position and try to plug the field with some defenders still downfield if needed. A similar scheme shut down Georgia Tech's triple option offense two years ago. The problem comes if you can't stay in position to block all of the lanes. Fatigue is also a factor due to not sustaining drives on offense.
Sometimes the stupid on this board is more than I can bear.
So since the gameplan we tried was unsuccessful we shouldn't have tried anything else in order to stop him? That is what i consider stupid! You know something isnt working so don't try to solve it. Your arguement that it wouldn't have worked is stupid b/c you have no basis for it. Had we blitzed and got burned then your arguement would have some legitimacy.
Posted on 10/26/10 at 12:45 pm to BilJ
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MSU was on the road and it was like AU's second game. You couldn't expect us to copy that and get the same results.
Who has the better athletes?
Posted on 10/26/10 at 12:46 pm to bmy
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he would have been able to throw to one of his uncovered WRs
He was throwing underneath to an open receiver several times. I don't know what Shep was biting on but Newton had that underneath open all day.
Posted on 10/26/10 at 12:51 pm to Topwater Trout
again we're comparing the guy's 2nd career start and 1st road SEC game to his 8th at home in which the offense had found a rhythm. It isn't a fair comparison. Clemson and USC have good athletes....why didn't they just copy MSU's blueprint?
Posted on 10/26/10 at 1:00 pm to BilJ
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again we're comparing the guy's 2nd career start and 1st road SEC game to his 8th at home in which the offense had found a rhythm. It isn't a fair comparison. Clemson and USC have good athletes....why didn't they just copy MSU's blueprint?
Sometimes you have to try other things when the gameplan isnt working can we agree on that?
We played a passive style defense which in my opinion allowed our defenders to be blocked easier and we played on our heels. I have never said blitz every play etc but show them something different. Had we played a more aggressive style of defense and blitzed gaps and put 8 men in the box we may have caused problems with blocking schemes forced a few errant passes etc. When people say the gameplan was sound and we gave up 440yds on the ground(all time record vs. LSU defense) it just doesn't make sense. Lets put the same arguement towards our offense maybe the offensive gameplan is sound but were not executing so we shouldn't attempt anything different.
Posted on 10/26/10 at 1:01 pm to BilJ
All we did was send house every play, that sets up screens, and plays to either side of the field, If we would have forced him to pass more they would have struggled because most of the time they would have to convert 3rd and long siuations. He only throws the ball about 15 times a game and completes about 8 of them. So why blitz when he can't pass
Posted on 10/26/10 at 1:03 pm to Topwater Trout
I'm not disagreeing with not liking the game plan because I wasn't a fan either. Was it the worst of all time like some are suggesting? No. If our guys tackle better and DEs try containing it probably looks much better.
Posted on 10/26/10 at 1:07 pm to PinevilleTiger
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Damn, we had everybody playing horizontal bullshite "contain" don't attack defense the whole game even though they were running all over us!!!
you can't attack when you can't get off your blocks. it's no wonder to me, with that oline, why the aubies are bcs #1. they owned the line of scrimmage saturday....they are that good.
Posted on 10/26/10 at 1:11 pm to BilJ
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I'm not disagreeing with not liking the game plan because I wasn't a fan either. Was it the worst of all time like some are suggesting? No. If our guys tackle better and DEs try containing it probably looks much better.
Our tackling has been great all year. Play aggressive and tackling usually seems to be better than when we play passive. Watch the great defenses they dictate to the offense what they can run.
Posted on 10/26/10 at 1:15 pm to lctiger
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Im glad someone on here realizes that the solutions are not so simple as load the box or blitz the house. The bottom line is Auburn has a very good offensive system and have recruited the right people for that system.
+1000000000000000000000000000000
Posted on 10/26/10 at 1:21 pm to BilJ
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MSU was on the road and it was like AU's second game. You couldn't expect us to copy that and get the same results.
You're right, you wouldn't expect us to copy that and get the same results. But who wouldn't have copied it at least for a while just to see what kind of results we might have gotten.
To have that film to game plan off of and to not even try any of what MSU was successful with is nothing short of crazy.
And to say it was working because of the score is nuts. Auburn started with the average worst field position maybe in the history of college football. That's what kept the score down.
Posted on 10/26/10 at 1:26 pm to Bullethead88
D-line gave no pressure. Auburn's O-line manhandled them all day.
Posted on 10/26/10 at 1:29 pm to PinevilleTiger
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I rewatched the game, and I noticed on over a dozen snaps Newton would get the ball on an obvious QB run play and just stand there like he was in a passing formation. He stood there and waited to see which of our guys got put on their arse, then he would run through that hole 3-4 seconds later.
I noticed it all afternoon.
Just shows how badly our D-line was manhandled.
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