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re: Details of each player/case in the USA Today article

Posted on 11/18/20 at 12:59 pm to
Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
Member since Sep 2008
71217 posts
Posted on 11/18/20 at 12:59 pm to
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It's a transparent hit picece


I think you mean non-transparent hit piece

If it was transparent, the journalist wouldn't have left out so many details
Posted by bmarcs82
Member since Oct 2020
145 posts
Posted on 11/18/20 at 1:06 pm to
Sounds like hearsay to me
Posted by DWaginHTown
Houston, TX
Member since Jan 2006
10174 posts
Posted on 11/18/20 at 1:10 pm to
We went from NFLSU to RapeU
Posted by LSU0358
Member since Jan 2005
8085 posts
Posted on 11/18/20 at 1:12 pm to
quote:

Phillips


There is no situation to handle here. The charges where false.
Posted by lostinbr
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Oct 2017
12608 posts
Posted on 11/18/20 at 1:21 pm to
quote:

I'm not saying they did anything wrong, I'm just saying we need to know that the right thing was done and confirm they didn't cover anything up.

I’m not sure it’s that simple, though. The only confirmation anyone (especially the media) will accept is either:

A) Public acknowledgement that an investigation was performed and disciplinary actions were taken, or

B) Public acknowledgement that an investigation was performed, disciplinary action was not taken, and justification for that decision.

So for the sake of argument - let’s say a girl accuses a player of misconduct and the university investigates. They find that the allegations are not credible, or the player proves there was no wrongdoing. Maybe they temporarily suspended the player during the investigation then reinstated him after he was quickly cleared. There are no police reports because the police were never involved.

So now the media gets wind of the allegations and demands that LSU address why they did or did not discipline the player. It is not right for the school to drag the player through the mud over allegations that were found to be false. Nor is it right for the school to drag the accuser’s name through the mud. So what do they say?

“We take all allegations of sexual misconduct and Title IX violations seriously, and we are committed to upholding high standards for our student athletes.”

Sound familiar?
Posted by kew48
Covington Louisiana
Member since Sep 2006
1531 posts
Posted on 11/18/20 at 1:53 pm to
Sounds like LSU should be preparing a lawsuit !!!
Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
Member since Sep 2008
71217 posts
Posted on 11/18/20 at 2:01 pm to
quote:

So now the media gets wind of the allegations and demands that LSU address why they did or did not discipline the player. It is not right for the school to drag the player through the mud over allegations that were found to be false. Nor is it right for the school to drag the accuser’s name through the mud. So what do they say?

It is against LSU policy to disclose any details of a Title IX case unless otherwise required by law. For instance, if a Title IX lawsuit is filed in Court, they may provide confidential information.

LSU may be required to disclose information on a need-to-know basis in order to properly address a complaint, when there is a threat to others, pursuant to subpoena, or other court or administrative order, or as may be required by applicable law. Violations of confidentiality or privacy by any other persons involved in the resolution, investigation or administration of the complaint, including any employee, faculty, staff, or student may result in disciplinary or corrective action.

LINK
Posted by Topwater Trout
Red Stick
Member since Oct 2010
69472 posts
Posted on 11/18/20 at 2:25 pm to
looks like a lot but I am sure no different at any other university
Posted by LSUStar
Medellin
Member since Sep 2009
11405 posts
Posted on 11/18/20 at 2:32 pm to
Mostly nothing, but if Verge deleted a text, that could be a problem.
Posted by Geauxboy
NW Arkansas
Member since Oct 2006
4856 posts
Posted on 11/18/20 at 5:02 pm to
Man, white guys are terrible people.
Oh, wait.
1/8
Posted by DBG
vermont
Member since May 2004
78465 posts
Posted on 11/18/20 at 5:03 pm to
quote:

Man, white guys are terrible people.
Oh, wait.
1/8



Congrats?
Posted by Bayoubengal205
Member since Nov 2016
1183 posts
Posted on 11/18/20 at 7:58 pm to
I agree. If this is all accurate then I’d say this is good for the program given the circumstances. Looks to me coach O did everything relatively the right way. The dates all pretty much add up to show that when Coach O found out, he took reasonable action. I know some of the higher ups seem to be screwed. But looks to me that O should be in the clear.
This post was edited on 11/18/20 at 8:42 pm
Posted by CrazieboutCurley
ANYTOWN, USA
Member since Sep 2020
67 posts
Posted on 11/18/20 at 8:13 pm to
Where do the girl tennis players hang out. I feel like I'm missing out ??
Posted by nicholastiger
Member since Jan 2004
53788 posts
Posted on 11/18/20 at 8:16 pm to
Davis was the one they really messed up on
Posted by CalTiger53
California
Member since Oct 2011
9688 posts
Posted on 11/18/20 at 8:36 pm to
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This post was edited on 11/18/20 at 9:52 pm
Posted by RightWingTiger
Louisiana
Member since Oct 2003
5844 posts
Posted on 11/18/20 at 9:28 pm to
Sounds like the Football Program took action by suspending the players immediately when presented with “Corroborated evidence” of abuse or violence.
Posted by mhc4tigers
Member since Aug 2016
4532 posts
Posted on 11/19/20 at 8:32 am to
Appreciate this write. Any violence against women in this manner is unacceptable. As far as I understand it. All students athletes and students know where to report these incidents. Almost none of them did.
Posted by DEG
Atlanta
Member since Jul 2009
10750 posts
Posted on 11/19/20 at 9:56 am to
Great summary, thank you. I'm sympathetic to the victims and alleged victims here, but I don't see this as damning as some in this thread.
Posted by SeanLSU
Member since May 2019
1759 posts
Posted on 11/19/20 at 2:00 pm to
1. What did you know?
2. When did you know it?
3. What did you do with the information?

Kudos to Segar, who seems to have been the only responsible adult involved from the tennis side of things.

This whole thing is going to slam down hard on the tennis team, the training staff, the athletic department, and potentially the football staff.

There appears to be reasonable summaries for most of the cases that show a proper process was followed.

I'm not sure how you pursue Title IX investigations further, though, if one of the people involved is either (a) not a student in the first place or (b) leaves the university before there is a full investigation and/or resolution. That may be a loophole in the process, honestly, but I'm not sure how you close that. At that point, you have to rely on an actual police investigation, and it appears that doesn't always happen in these cases.
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