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Posted by Bert Macklin FBI
Quantico
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Posted on 2/16/18 at 9:42 am to
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clock mismanagement happens everywhere


If O ever mismanages the clock, I highly doubt you’ll have such a laissez faire attitude about it.
Posted by RB10
Member since Nov 2010
43811 posts
Posted on 2/16/18 at 9:51 am to
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Maybe he'll get better in year ......

fricking TWO


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p&g


Please list the areas you think LSU will be better in 2018 than they were in 2017. Position by position will suffice.
Posted by The Pirate King
Pangu
Member since May 2014
57676 posts
Posted on 2/16/18 at 9:52 am to
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we just fired a coach that was an elite recruiter,a great motivator that had questionable game day coaching


Yeah, the team looked super motivated in the 2012 championship.
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
66463 posts
Posted on 2/16/18 at 9:53 am to
We didn’t look too motivated for the first 6.25 games this year.
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
162217 posts
Posted on 2/16/18 at 9:54 am to
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Please list the areas you think LSU will be better in 2018 than they were in 2017. Position by position will suffice.


The entire front 7 on defense stands to improve as a unit

Offensive line should also be improved overall as a unit

WR will *likely be improved as a unit but jury is still out

We drop off at RB and CB

Improve at safety position

QB position is unknown at this point
Posted by Goldrush25
San Diego, CA
Member since Oct 2012
33794 posts
Posted on 2/16/18 at 9:56 am to
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Yeah, the team looked super motivated in the 2012 championship.


At least they got there.

We don't have to worry about looking unmotivated in the NC anymore, if we don't get there.

:blackguypointingathead:
This post was edited on 2/16/18 at 9:57 am
Posted by RB10
Member since Nov 2010
43811 posts
Posted on 2/16/18 at 10:00 am to
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The entire front 7 on defense stands to improve as a unit


Based on what? Losing 6 players off of the two deep?

Lacouture
Gilmore
Herron
Key
Alexander
Thompson

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Offensive line should also be improved overall as a unit


Based on what? The two best linemen declared for the draft.

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WR will *likely be improved as a unit but jury is still out


So, not a given. Push.

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We drop off at RB and CB


So, a regression.

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Improve at safety position


Agree

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QB position is unknown at this point


Agree


So, let's break it down:

QB - Push
RB - Worse
WR - Better
TE - Better
OL - Push
DL - Push
LB - Worse
CB - Worse
S - Better

The only way someone can say this team should be "better" is by blatantly ignoring the roster issues. Combine this with the fact that the schedule is much, much tougher in 2018 and you seriously think LSU is going to improve?
This post was edited on 2/16/18 at 10:02 am
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
66463 posts
Posted on 2/16/18 at 10:00 am to
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LSU never ran out of clock inside the opponents 5-yard line once. With Les you could pretty much count on it happening - just like in the last game he coached at LSU.


I’m gonna step in and say this is pretty much BS. I have Yet to see any team get a snap off on a running clock with 1 second left and no TO
Posted by Tiger Ree
Houston
Member since Jun 2004
24545 posts
Posted on 2/16/18 at 10:03 am to
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He can sell other people's programs. His own, not so much.


He had the #7 recruiting class last year after being the full time head coach for just over 2 months.

Seems like a hell of a selling job to me.
Posted by Goldrush25
San Diego, CA
Member since Oct 2012
33794 posts
Posted on 2/16/18 at 10:04 am to
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He had the #7 recruiting class last year after being the full time head coach for just over 2 months.


Miles put most of that class together my friend.

Though O did his best to destroy it by offering Tua who everyone knew was never coming here.
This post was edited on 2/16/18 at 10:05 am
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
66463 posts
Posted on 2/16/18 at 10:04 am to
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He had the #7 recruiting class last year after being the full time head coach for just over 2 months.


It’s almost like most of that class was already there...

I will give him credit for keeping them on board, but his first full class was disappointing for a guy who brings little else to the table.
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
162217 posts
Posted on 2/16/18 at 10:06 am to
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So, a regression.

Congrats on the thesaurus?
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
162217 posts
Posted on 2/16/18 at 10:07 am to
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OL - Push
DL - Push
LB - Worse


Takes a good deal of pessimism to come up with these 3

How is the LB group going to get worse in your opinion?
Posted by Tiger Ree
Houston
Member since Jun 2004
24545 posts
Posted on 2/16/18 at 10:08 am to
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Let's not try to pretend that it wasn't absolutely horrible under Miles though

His clock mismanagement blunders cost us multiple games


That's the thing the poster seems to be missing. He keeps posting screen shots of where coaches had clock gaffes. But, it is usually a one-off deal for those guys.

If you do a simple search with Les Miles and clock management you get pages and pages of results talking about the multiple times he cost his players victory by just not knowing what purpose a game and play clock served.

It would have been really funny if it didn't cost the LSU program wins and was so damn embarrassing.
Posted by Bert Macklin FBI
Quantico
Member since May 2013
8925 posts
Posted on 2/16/18 at 10:08 am to
QB- we have more talent at QB regardless of which one starts.

OL- our OL coach is a stud and we have 3 returning starters in Brumfield, Ingram, and Charles. We also add the number 1 Juco OT.
Not to mention, this group can’t do any worse than last year so it should definitely improve.

WR- we signed two 5 stars and actually have a WR coach regardless of his age. We also have plenty ofvreturning talent.

DL- we replace Lac and Gilmore who were serviceable but not great with Alexander and Fehoko. Plus we still have Lawrence. This group is a MAJOR upgrade.

ILB- we still have white and he’s another year smarter and better. Plus Taylor or Phillips will be a massive upgrade over Donnie Alexander. At times playing with 10 guys would have been better than having Donnie out there.

Safety- Delpit will be improved after a year of experience. Battle, Monroe, or Stevens will play the other spot and all 3 are pretty good with Stevens having the potential to be great. Their new Safeties coach will help develop them as well.

That’s 6 position groups where we will be better in 2018 than we were in 2017. The only spots where we take a step back are RB, OLB, and CB. Those groups aren’t devoid of talent either, they are just replacing extremely talented players.
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
162217 posts
Posted on 2/16/18 at 10:09 am to
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If you do a simple search with Les Miles and clock management you get pages and pages of results talking about the multiple times he cost his players victory by just not knowing what purpose a game and play clock served.


And those are just the obvious ones

Having to burn a time out after a turnover or a punt or having a delay of game after a time out are the things that happen in the early and middle portions of the game that get lost in the shuffle but hurt the team's chances of securing a victory.
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
66463 posts
Posted on 2/16/18 at 10:10 am to
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If you do a simple search with Les Miles and clock management you get pages and pages of results talking about the multiple times he cost his players victory by just not knowing what purpose a game and play clock served


I can Think of two and both were 1 second running clocks with no timeouts. It’s almost impossible to get a play off in those circumstances.
Posted by RB10
Member since Nov 2010
43811 posts
Posted on 2/16/18 at 10:11 am to
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Takes a good deal of pessimism to come up with these 3


I think you mean realism.

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How is the LB group going to get worse in your opinion?


Is losing 3 of 4 starters not a bad thing?
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
162217 posts
Posted on 2/16/18 at 10:11 am to
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WR- we signed two 5 stars and actually have a WR coach regardless of his age. We also have plenty ofvreturning talent.

And the 2 4 star guys we signed were also ESPN 300 players

Also have to consider Giles will be eligible

I think it's extremely likely that this group will be better than last year
Posted by RB10
Member since Nov 2010
43811 posts
Posted on 2/16/18 at 10:12 am to
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That’s 6 position groups where we will be better in 2018 than we were in 2017. The only spots where we take a step back are RB, OLB, and CB. Those groups aren’t devoid of talent either, they are just replacing extremely talented players.


Every upgrade you've noted is addition by subtraction. Basically, you hope the new players will be better, but don't actually know.
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