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Posted on 2/15/18 at 11:10 pm to
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
46625 posts
Posted on 2/15/18 at 11:10 pm to
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That's why it's hilarious to see some of our "fans" freaking out after a 9-4 season. We have a lot of talent and have serious potential. Geaux tigers.


we just fired a coach that was an elite recruiter,a great motivator that had questionable game day coaching
and hired
a worse and less successful recruiter,motivator, that has even worse game day coaching.


thats why people are worried.
Posted by AlwysATgr
Member since Apr 2008
16430 posts
Posted on 2/15/18 at 11:24 pm to
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Rickdaddy4188


Permit me to take your post a little farther on . . .

O flip-flopped (prefer a spread. prefer a pro).
O lied.
O folded and meddled.
O has no vision for this program.
O conducts lazy searches.
O hired Steve (nothing against Steve) when with the money he had to pay brought just about every OC in CFB into play.
O bungled the recruiting season.

O isn't some beginner who shows promise but just needs to work out a few kinks. His cement is already dry.
Posted by Tiger Ree
Houston
Member since Jun 2004
24545 posts
Posted on 2/15/18 at 11:37 pm to
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and hired a worse and less successful recruiter


He was named the 2004 National Recruiter of the Year by The Sporting News and Rivals.com.
In 2011, he was named the Scout.com/FOXSports.com National Recruiter of the Year
In 2011, ESPNU/ESPN The Magazine named him the top recruiter in college football
In 2012, Sporting News selected him as the nation's No. 2 recruiter.
Rivals.com ranked him as the second-best recruiter of the previous 10 years (2002-11)

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that has even worse game day coaching.

I don't remember seeing LSU run out of clock while inside the opponent's five yard line this past season. That is a huge improvement right there in game day coaching. LSU team scrambling to get final play in to win game, coach looking for a clean blade of grass to eat and clock runs to zero.



Do a quick google search for "les miles clock management":

A few Results you will see - the article titles and snippets seen from the search are listed:

"Les Miles Epic Fail - LSU vs. Ole Miss 11/21/09 (HQ) - YouTube"

Auburn game - "As same mistakes continue, Les Miles might be out of time at LSU - After this latest clock management blunder, Les Miles' clock might have finally run out, too. I know it was chaotic, but LSU wasted way too much time. Should've been sitting in formation, waiting to snap it…"

"Les Miles Blows Another Game with Poor Coaching and Clock - Penn State vs. LSU in the Florida Citrus Bowl, Joe Paterno vs. Les Miles, Class vs. Crazy. In that game, Les Miles shows why it's obvious he flunked Clock Management 101 in coach's school. Can at least one assistant coach please sit down and help Les Miles understand this area of coaching?"

"Coach Les Miles says LSU Tigers clock management gaffe addressed" - Then LSU runs out of time in his last loss at LSU.

This doesn't even include the Tennessee game where UT saved Les from another loss due to clock mismanagement. They had too many defenders on the field when the clock went to zero on LSU.
This post was edited on 2/15/18 at 11:40 pm
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
46625 posts
Posted on 2/15/18 at 11:52 pm to
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e was named the 2004 National Recruiter of the Year by The Sporting News and Rivals.com. 
In 2011, he was named the Scout.com/FOXSports.com National Recruiter of the Year 
In 2011, ESPNU/ESPN The Magazine named him the top recruiter in college football 
In 2012, Sporting News selected him as the nation's No. 2 recruiter. 
Rivals.com ranked him as the second-best recruiter of the previous 10 years (2002-11) 


he has never proven he can recruit FOR HIS PROGRAM.

im not shocked that you dont know that there is a huge difference between recruiting for someone else's program and his own program.
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don't remember seeing LSU run out of clock while inside the opponent's five yard line this past season. That is a huge improvement right there in game day coaching. LSU team scrambling to get final play in to win game, coach looking for a clean blade of grass to eat and clock runs to zero. 




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Do a quick google search for "les miles clock management


clock mismanagement happens everywhere


quote:

burn game - "As same mistakes continue, Les Miles might be out of time at LSU - After this latest clock management blunder, Les Miles' clock might have finally run out, too. I know it was chaotic, but LSU wasted way too much time. Should've been sitting in formation, waiting to snap it…" 

"Les Miles Blows Another Game with Poor Coaching and Clock - Penn State vs. LSU in the Florida Citrus Bowl, Joe Paterno vs. Les Miles, Class vs. Crazy. In that game, Les Miles shows why it's obvious he flunked Clock Management 101 in coach's school. Can at least one assistant coach please sit down and help Les Miles understand this area of coaching?" 


if you followed football you'd know that even great nfl coaches do it.




but hey don't let facts get in the way of you posting football ignorant shite.
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This doesn't even include the Tennessee game where UT saved Les from another loss due to clock mismanagement. They had too many defenders on the field when the clock went to zero on LSU.


Of course O has less clock mismanagement. for the vast majority of his head coaching career,his team was to far behind for the end of the game to matter.
clock mismanagement isnt an issue when your team is getting curb stomped.
This post was edited on 2/15/18 at 11:57 pm
Posted by Tiger Ree
Houston
Member since Jun 2004
24545 posts
Posted on 2/16/18 at 12:13 am to
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he has never proven he can recruit FOR HIS PROGRAM.

im not shocked that you dont know that there is a huge difference between recruiting for someone else's program and his own program.


He's been doing it as HC at LSU for two signing classes. I'm surprised you don't know that. In those two classes he finished with the #7 class and the #15 class according to 24/7 composite rankings.

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clock mismanagement happens everywhere


Not as often as it happened with LSU's former coach. Seems that the others tend to learn from their clock mishaps. Les again ran out of time as his team was celebrating victory and was fired the next day.

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Of course O has less clock mismanagement. for the vast majority of his head coaching career,his team was to far behind for the end of the game to matter.
clock mismanagement isnt an issue when your team is getting curb stomped.


Of Eaux's six losses at LSU 3 of them were by 6 points or less. LSU never ran out of clock inside the opponents 5-yard line once. With Les you could pretty much count on it happening - just like in the last game he coached at LSU.

Les cost his team quite a few games because he could not figure out what the little LED numbers on the square boxes were for.

"Les Miles Blows Another Game with Poor Coaching and Clock - Penn State vs. LSU in the Florida Citrus Bowl, Joe Paterno vs. Les Miles, Class vs. Crazy. In that game, Les Miles shows why it's obvious he flunked Clock Management 101 in coach's school. Can at least one assistant coach please sit down and help Les Miles understand this area of coaching?"

Yep, Les was a GREAT game-day coach !!!

Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
46625 posts
Posted on 2/16/18 at 1:13 am to
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LSU never ran out of clock inside the opponents 5-yard line once. With Les you could pretty much count on it happening - just like in the last game he coached at LSU. 

Les cost his team quite a few games because he could not figure out what the little LED numbers on the square boxes were for. 

"Les Miles Blows Another Game with Poor Coaching and Clock - Penn State vs. LSU in the Florida Citrus Bowl, Joe Paterno vs. Les Miles, Class vs. Crazy. In that game, Les Miles shows why it's obvious he flunked Clock Management 101 in coach's school. Can at least one assistant coach please sit down and help Les Miles understand this area of coaching?" 

Yep, Les was a GREAT game-day coach !!! 


its like you dont even remember me posting.....
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questionable game day coachin



i love how you just leave out O's ole miss tenure.

quote:

Not as often as it happened with LSU's former coach. Seems that the others tend to learn from their clock mishaps. Les again ran out of time as his team was celebrating victory and was fired the next day. 



bullshite. there is an article i just posted about how rampant clock mismanaged is in the nfl.
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s been doing it as HC at LSU for two signing classes. I'm surprised you don't know that. In those two classes he finished with the #7 class and the #15 class according to 24/7 composite rankings. 


and my point still stands. at no point in ed orgeron's career has he proven he is an elite recruiter when he recruits for his program. im not saying he cant, I'm saying he hasnt.

quote:

Les cost his team quite a few games because he could not figure out what the little LED numbers on the square boxes were for. 


kind of like how O hasnt proven he can win more than 2 conf games a season on a consistent basis?



Miles went to a far worse situation at Oklahoma State than o did at ole miss and miles had them winning,7,8,9 games while your dad has the worst win % ever at
a program filled with shite win %.

there isnt a single shred of evidence that points to O being any where near the coach miles was.

he may end up being better but not now.


This post was edited on 2/16/18 at 1:20 am
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
46625 posts
Posted on 2/16/18 at 1:25 am to
here is an article about cfb clock mismanagement and it was written after miles was fired.





but hey by all means continue to shite on a coach that was extremely successful in an attempt to prop up an unqualified HC that has accomplished frick all at lsu and that took shots at lsu every chance he got.
This post was edited on 2/16/18 at 1:33 am
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
46625 posts
Posted on 2/16/18 at 1:30 am to
and here is another one talkjng about how rampant it is




you should just stick to applying logic to some coaches and not o in an attempt to prop up O because you suck at this whole, " football discussion thing".
This post was edited on 2/16/18 at 1:30 am
Posted by halleburton
Member since Dec 2009
1519 posts
Posted on 2/16/18 at 7:09 am to
quote:

Anyone read Aranda quotes and after feel like it’s fresh oxygen in a burning house


Fresh fuel to a raging inferno?

I kid I kid, Aranda is phenomenal.

ETA I see I was late to the party
This post was edited on 2/16/18 at 7:11 am
Posted by Upperdecker
St. George, LA
Member since Nov 2014
30571 posts
Posted on 2/16/18 at 8:46 am to
No mention of being a HCIW?
Posted by Mudminnow
Houston, TX
Member since Aug 2004
34146 posts
Posted on 2/16/18 at 9:05 am to
I know you are paid to defend Coach O on message boards and prop up the program. But why does the only way to defend Coach O is to bash Miles?

Miles did a good job here for over a decade. Not many coaches last a decade at one university. He became stale and reluctant to change offense. But to continually bash him in order to make another coach look good is not the way.
Posted by Tigerfan56
Member since May 2010
10520 posts
Posted on 2/16/18 at 9:09 am to
quote:

Pete Jenkins told me last month that Breiden was the best defensive lineman on last year’s team. Is that true?


On a DL with Rashard Lawrence, this makes me very happy.
Posted by Big Sway
Member since Nov 2009
5133 posts
Posted on 2/16/18 at 9:12 am to
That's why they chop a hole in the roof!
Posted by Tiger Ree
Houston
Member since Jun 2004
24545 posts
Posted on 2/16/18 at 9:28 am to
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But why does the only way to defend Coach O is to bash Miles?


You must have missed the post I was responding to.

Here it is:
https://www.tigerdroppings.com/rant/display.aspx?sp=75438415&s=2&p=75436332#75438415

quote:

Miles did a good job here for over a decade. Not many coaches last a decade at one university. He became stale and reluctant to change offense. But to continually bash him in order to make another coach look good is not the way.


I was and am a big Les Miles fan. I know the second part of my post looks like I was bashing Les, but it was really meant to show the poster I was replying to that just like most of the time, he was once again WRONG.
Posted by p&g
Dixie
Member since Jun 2005
12995 posts
Posted on 2/16/18 at 9:31 am to
AND here comes tricky Ricky !

This post was edited on 2/16/18 at 9:31 am
Posted by Goldrush25
San Diego, CA
Member since Oct 2012
33794 posts
Posted on 2/16/18 at 9:35 am to
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He was named the 2004 National Recruiter of the Year by The Sporting News and Rivals.com.
In 2011, he was named the Scout.com/FOXSports.com National Recruiter of the Year
In 2011, ESPNU/ESPN The Magazine named him the top recruiter in college football
In 2012, Sporting News selected him as the nation's No. 2 recruiter.
Rivals.com ranked him as the second-best recruiter of the previous 10 years (2002-11)


How many of these accolades were earned while running his own program?

I'll give you an easier one, how many assistants during his tenure as HC have won such accolades?

He can sell other people's programs. His own, not so much.
Posted by Lester Earl
Member since Nov 2003
278385 posts
Posted on 2/16/18 at 9:38 am to
You dumb fricks just can’t help yourself huh? Don’t you have anything better to do then argue the same shite over and over?
Posted by p&g
Dixie
Member since Jun 2005
12995 posts
Posted on 2/16/18 at 9:38 am to
Maybe he'll get better in year ......

fricking TWO
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
162219 posts
Posted on 2/16/18 at 9:40 am to
quote:


clock mismanagement happens everywhere


Let's not try to pretend that it wasn't absolutely horrible under Miles though

His clock mismanagement blunders cost us multiple games
Posted by Goldrush25
San Diego, CA
Member since Oct 2012
33794 posts
Posted on 2/16/18 at 9:41 am to
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Maybe he'll get better in year ...... fricking TWO


Maybe.

Will there be another excuse if we stagnate or worsen? Saban, Kirby, Dabo all got better from year one to two.
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