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re: DE Neil Farrell has opted out of 2020 season

Posted on 8/8/20 at 4:22 pm to
Posted by Tigahs24Seven
Charlie Kirk's America
Member since Nov 2007
15012 posts
Posted on 8/8/20 at 4:22 pm to
Gotcha.. Slackster...

Except the regular flu hits babies and young people REALLY, REALLY, hard with deaths and permanent health ramifications, and NEVER have we shut down a fricking thing during FLU SEASON... The MSM has you by the short hairs.
SO, ESSENTIALLY ZERO IS EXPONENTIALLY LOWER THAN YEARLY YOUNG FLU A and B DEATHS.
QUIT BEING A HUGE PUSS.
Signed, Tigers24Seven,RN
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
91838 posts
Posted on 8/8/20 at 4:23 pm to
quote:

What is the rate?


Higher than zero.

Also, his chart and the author's chart were percentage of deaths attributable to each age group. That’s not the same as the death rate for 0-24 year olds.

The rate is still very low, but it’s not zero.
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
91838 posts
Posted on 8/8/20 at 4:25 pm to
quote:

Except the regular flu hits babies and young people REALLY, REALLY, hard with deaths and permanent health ramifications, and NEVER have we shut down a fricking thing during FLU SEASON... The MSM has you by the short hairs.
SO, ESSENTIALLY ZERO IS EXPONENTIALLY LOWER THAN YEARLY YOUNG FLU A and B DEATHS.
QUIT BEING A HUGE PUSS.
Signed, Tigers24Seven,RN


Sigh.

You’ll have a much better time convincing others this is all an overreaction if you stick to the actual facts.

I want people to stop overreacting too, and reciting false statistics hurts the cause. Be better.
Posted by Tigahs24Seven
Charlie Kirk's America
Member since Nov 2007
15012 posts
Posted on 8/8/20 at 4:37 pm to
OMG... What planet do you live on? Seriously??
Read what I sent on Covid deaths in the 1 to 24 age group from the CDC... Then Google last year's Flu deaths in the same age group. It's not even close. *SIGH*.. Really? Save that crap for FB.
YOU are 100% INCORRECT, and YOU are spreading total misinformation. This is why these kids are so messed up in the head and deciding to not play this year.
Posted by Tigahs24Seven
Charlie Kirk's America
Member since Nov 2007
15012 posts
Posted on 8/8/20 at 4:47 pm to
quote:

Based on that analysis, what is striking is that those under the age of 25 are at significantly lower risk of death from COVID-19 than of the flu. Under our assumptions, for example, school-aged children between 5 and 14 have a 1 in 200,000 chance of dying of influenza, but a 1 in 1.5 million chance of dying of COVID-19.
For toddlers, the relative risk is even more pronounced. We estimate that Americans between ages 1–4 are 9 times more likely to die of influenza than of COVID-19.



Here you go.. I won't even make you open an article. I will spoon feed you. Now stop the bullshite. Somebody send this shite to the NCAA please since they can't seem to read either.
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
91838 posts
Posted on 8/8/20 at 4:50 pm to
quote:

OMG... What planet do you live on? Seriously??
Read what I sent on Covid deaths in the 1 to 24 age group from the CDC... Then Google last year's Flu deaths in the same age group. It's not even close. *SIGH*.. Really? Save that crap for FB.
YOU are 100% INCORRECT, and YOU are spreading total misinformation. This is why these kids are so messed up in the head and deciding to not play this year.


Jesus your reading comprehension is ridiculous.

You said the deaths for people 0-24 was zero. It’s not zero.

You’re going to have a hard time convincing people you’re right when you can’t even get the simple facts straight. You and people like you make the cause more difficult than it needs to be when you can’t even get something as simple as deaths correct.

I’m in your side, but you make this discussion more difficult for all of us than it needs to be.
Posted by Scoob
Near Exxon
Member since Jun 2009
23544 posts
Posted on 8/8/20 at 4:51 pm to
Seems like our fans, like any other group, has a percentage of assholes.

The world is fricked up right now, we don't have a normal football season in place in best-case-scenario, and complete cancellation is still a possibility. So dude made a decision based on family circumstance, that the coach and AD fully support and respect.
And people here are calling him names.
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
91838 posts
Posted on 8/8/20 at 4:51 pm to
So the rate isn’t zero like you originally said. Maybe you should start there next time.
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
70764 posts
Posted on 8/8/20 at 4:53 pm to
Wow you sound like an ignorant tool. Now do any other infectious disease and compare the response. fricking moron.
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
91838 posts
Posted on 8/8/20 at 4:56 pm to
quote:

Wow you sound like an ignorant tool. Now do any other infectious disease and compare the response. fricking moron.



Y’all are out here trying combat fake news with more fake news. I’m trying to actually help the cause and stick to the facts. If that makes me a tool, so be it.
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
70764 posts
Posted on 8/8/20 at 5:05 pm to
You didn’t answer the question because it would expose your hypocrisy. You’re not pushing facts you’re ignoring them and repeating political propaganda.
This post was edited on 8/8/20 at 5:09 pm
Posted by Hot Carl
Prayers up for 3
Member since Dec 2005
62715 posts
Posted on 8/8/20 at 5:17 pm to
quote:

He shouldn’t get an extra year IF he has redshirted


Well, he hasn’t, so the rest of your stupid fricking selfish post is moot. But allow me to address a few issues anyway:

quote:

Go ahead and be dumb and look at what a frick-up baseball is.


Baseball got fricked because they had to make some decisions based on very limited information at their disposal at the time. They erred on the side of safety and caution. Will that turn out to have been the wrong decision? Perhaps. But if there were a wrong decision to be made at the time, not playing when you could have is an infinitely better “miss” than playing and it all going to shite. MLB with all their money and only 30 teams—with an extra 4+ months to prepare—are still having huge problems just 2 weeks into the season. How the frick do you think it would have gone with the 300+ schools, many of them with very limited budgets, would have been able to safely pull the season off?

quote:

ONLY reason they should have considered that is because they didn’t have a chance to play for a title unlike NF.


If you’re talking about LSU only—which clearly you are because you’re a selfish cocksucker—then I even disagree with that. Though unlikely, they had the pitching talent to go on a run and maybe make some postseason noise. As for Neil Farrell, he DID already have a chance to play for a title. Won it too. I’ve seen the rings.

quote:

I’ve watched my grandson’s best friend and teammate go from a larger school D-1 offer potential to having to settle for a Sam Houston, SFA, TAMUCC or McNeese type of school. He Is a lefty and has hit 91 on his fb (97 on a run and throw) and throws a 70mph change, 75 spiked ball and a very good backdoor slider /cutter in the low to mid-80’s. He has received letters from LSU before but nothing solid as I sent them information on him. TAMU was looking at him as well. This summer was his summer because he was a late bloomer growthwise. He is now 6‘1 to 6’2 and Now at 180 where he was almost 6’ last summer and 155. He is maturing and his FB has really taken off. Now schools are picking up LSU cast offs and the scholarship pool is getting smaller due to budget cuts and some programs possibly folding. This push back is HORRIBLE.


Your grandson’s high school baseball resume has literally nothing at at all to do with this discussion, but way to shoe horn all that shite nobody cares about into your shite post.

quote:

If you have a chance to play the sport for the entire season, then that is it. No coming back. Move on to the NFL or life.


Except, it’s really not. Our athletic director has come out in full support of players making the very best decision for them personally—and apparently you only think in general absolutes and are too fricking stupid to realize that people are capable of having different situations and a different level of risk/reward and should thereby be granted the autonomy to analyze the available data to make their OWN decisions—LSU and the rest of the schools will not only preserve their scholarships, but welcome back to the team in ‘21. So who the frick are you, again?

quote:

Wah wah wah life is not “fair” you bunch of participation trophy entitled assholes.


That hilarious. Not only are you too fricking stupid not to invoke the ol’ “partricipitation trophies,” because it’s weak, you’re too fricking stupid to realize it makes zero sense in the context in which you’ve invoked it. And if ANYBODY is an entitled a-hole here, it’s fricking you, grandpa. Neil Ferrell’s purpose in life is not to entertain your dumb fricking arse for 3-4 years at LSU, for his very existence to just be forgotten by after he moves on and is replaced by another player in an LSU jersey playing for your entitled entertainment.

quote:

Bunch of pussies


Your melt here has outed you as an infinitely bigger pussy than the you g men making the very difficult decision to sit out.

quote:

No additional eligibility.


Well, Neil Ferrell isn’t getting any. He has some fair and square. A fact I’d think likely should checked before making this stupid fricking post, you stupid fricking selfish cocksucker.

Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
91838 posts
Posted on 8/8/20 at 5:20 pm to
quote:

You didn’t answer the question because it would expose your hypocrisy. You’re not pushing facts you’re ignoring them and repeating political propaganda.


Didn’t answer what question?

Have you followed the relatively simple conversation? The original post said the death rate was zero and even tried to link an article saying it was zero. Neither of them are true, which I pointed out.

I still think this is all an overreaction and the facts support playing, but words matter. The risk is incredibly small for someone under the age of 25, but they’re higher than zero. Saying they’re zero is inaccurate, and pointing that out apparent out really hurts y'all's feelings.
Posted by Lester Earl
3rd Ward
Member since Nov 2003
290881 posts
Posted on 8/8/20 at 5:24 pm to
Goodness LSU has some psychotic fans
Posted by kkv75
Member since Sep 2017
4890 posts
Posted on 8/8/20 at 5:28 pm to
Thus begins the rats jumping ship. College football is doomed.
Posted by tigerskin
Member since Nov 2004
46731 posts
Posted on 8/8/20 at 5:36 pm to
Neil releases statement.

LINK
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
70764 posts
Posted on 8/8/20 at 5:36 pm to
Not what he said, he posted the data and you’re parsing one word in order to discredit the facts. These guys are not really at risk and those that are can be identified easily and held out. It’s not a difficult task but instead we get a line of BS repeated by sheep. This debate over playing isn’t about health it’s about political leverage vs money, if there wasn’t a huge monetary loss involved football wouldn’t even be considered this season.


Btw the question was simple, why is this issue treated totally different that other health issues with much higher mortality rates?
This post was edited on 8/8/20 at 5:46 pm
Posted by Datbayoubengal
Port City
Member since Sep 2009
29319 posts
Posted on 8/8/20 at 6:04 pm to
quote:

Those are all defensive tackles. Neil was playing defensive end. We don't have hardly any depth at that position.




I saie this when it was initially mentioned on here in the offseason, Farrell is not playing DE. He's 6-4 and nearly 300lbs if not more. He's not going to be fast enough off the edge for that position.
Posted by nitwit
Member since Oct 2007
13091 posts
Posted on 8/8/20 at 6:14 pm to
I fully support Neil Farrell and wish him and his family the very best.
And those of you who are desperately in search of some conspiracy to explain the very real pandemic we are in, should take it to the Politics board with the other nut cakes there.
Posted by Hot Carl
Prayers up for 3
Member since Dec 2005
62715 posts
Posted on 8/8/20 at 6:28 pm to
quote:

Not what he said, he posted the data and you’re parsing one word in order to discredit the facts


That one word—“zero”—is pretty relevant, no? Zero would indicate absolutely no risk at all. “Almost zero” is encouraging, but by its very definition indicates there is, at least, some risk. And I think his point is that with so much contradicting information or even straight disinformation, you do yourself and your argument a huge disservice to not be 100% honest. I think marijuana should probably be made legal for several reasons, but I think a legit concern is being able to accurately test drivers for it. Inevitably, some stoner will come in with the “I drive better high” argument and it discredits every other argument they have—even if they have great points—because that one is so clearly wrong.

Speaking of the legalization of marijuana (and again, I think it should be legal, but I have tried to consider all the consequences, both intended and un), talk to an advocate for 5 minutes, and you’ll inevitably hear “it’s better for you than alcohol, and that’s legal.” Well, yes, it probably is better for an already developed brain than alcohol. But the problem with that is that we are not trading 1 legal vice for another—we are adding one. Same with COVID and the flu. Even if the flu is worse for college-aged athletes, we’re not trading it out for COVID—we’re adding COVID.

Finally, I think the data up until this point is pretty clear that after age, the single biggest risk factor for adverse reactions to getting COVID is obesity. Sure, overall, college athletes are in great shape. But Farrell is well over 300 pounds. Not exactly svelte. And whether it’s due to social or genetic reasons, black people seem to be more at risk to getting COVID as well. And it’s no walk in the park for ANYBODY who has symptoms, no matter the age.

If Neil has had to watch some of his family struggle with it, even if they all survived, I can certainly understand his concern. Especially when there is so much conflicting information out there—hell, our own medical virologist experts can’t seem to agree on anything. A 21/22-year-old who would like to live another 60+ years should at least be given the benefit of the doubt and not be called a “pussy” for trying to make the best decision for himself. He sure as shite shouldn’t have to apologize to a bunch of assholes who claim to care about the school that he attends.
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