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re: Damone Clark leading conference in tackles
Posted on 9/26/21 at 8:19 pm to GetmorewithLes
Posted on 9/26/21 at 8:19 pm to GetmorewithLes
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If we have a defender chasing a player 10 yds downfield and nobody else got to him before that then the other 10 SOBs on the field are worthless...
Except in this case Moo was running it straight up the middle for huge chunks and Clark was not plugging up the running lanes. That’s on Clark.
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Posted on 9/26/21 at 8:19 pm to oldskule
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Playing linebacker these days is extrremely difficult....
Against the spread/RPO up tempo offenses, the linebacker is the target. ALways looking for a mismatch gaurding a tight end, tailback, or even a slot...and the LB is still responsible for the run as well.
Most on this board dont understand that. It is no longer just about charging downhill and filling the gap. Todays offenses are designed to put the LB and safeties in conflict.
Posted on 9/26/21 at 8:36 pm to tigersbh
Yeah, you have to put statistics in context.
Tackle stats mean more for some positions.
It doesn't mean as much for 3-4 D-linemen or shutdown corners who don't get thrown at much.
It does mean a lot for LBs and Safeties. Although, again, you have to put it in context. Safety is generally a high-volume position. But let's say a D is playing a team that runs the ball a lot, and RBs are getting stopped by D-linemen and LBs. The Safeties may not end up with many tackles, but that doesn't mean they didn't play well.
Clark's total is meaningful in context. He has exceptional speed and range for his size. And he is a strong tackler.
What you will not find is opposing coaches or scouts who are down on him like the fools on this board. The fools just reinforce their bad ideas. Meanwhile, they don't even know what they're looking at when watching the games at times, and damn sure can't analyze the games.
Tackle stats mean more for some positions.
It doesn't mean as much for 3-4 D-linemen or shutdown corners who don't get thrown at much.
It does mean a lot for LBs and Safeties. Although, again, you have to put it in context. Safety is generally a high-volume position. But let's say a D is playing a team that runs the ball a lot, and RBs are getting stopped by D-linemen and LBs. The Safeties may not end up with many tackles, but that doesn't mean they didn't play well.
Clark's total is meaningful in context. He has exceptional speed and range for his size. And he is a strong tackler.
What you will not find is opposing coaches or scouts who are down on him like the fools on this board. The fools just reinforce their bad ideas. Meanwhile, they don't even know what they're looking at when watching the games at times, and damn sure can't analyze the games.
This post was edited on 9/26/21 at 8:39 pm
Posted on 9/26/21 at 9:41 pm to offshoretrash
[quote]He did play his best game since 2019 but that defensive scheme helped him cut down the field to minimize his mistakes. I think we see a lot more of that alignment.[/quote
You see, no one will ever play well at LSU, if it appears as tho they do, its actually the scheme. And if it appears they don't then they suck and the coaches suck.]
You see, no one will ever play well at LSU, if it appears as tho they do, its actually the scheme. And if it appears they don't then they suck and the coaches suck.]
Posted on 9/26/21 at 9:42 pm to jeffsdad
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if it appears they don't then they suck and the coaches suck
I only blame the coaches, and frankly I only blame O. These are all highly rated recruits out of high school that O is failing to coach up.
Ed O has to go, he’s a frickin buffoon.
Posted on 9/26/21 at 9:44 pm to GetmorewithLes
Give him credit. He played his heart out and had a solid game.
Posted on 9/26/21 at 9:45 pm to GoldenBoy
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While tackles aren’t a great way to measure how good a player is, he’s not nearly as bad as y’all make him out to be.
He’s really that bad. Watch him closely. His processing time is always slow and then he also fills the wrong gap a good bit. His tackling is pretty good. It’s not an effort thing with him.
Posted on 9/26/21 at 9:46 pm to GetmorewithLes
He has been around the all a lot more this year. Overall our tackling has been very good
Posted on 9/26/21 at 10:01 pm to GetmorewithLes
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I am not nominating him for all conference or anything
I am, and have been. I thought he played fair last year and showed elite athleticism. He is much better this year. He looks like an All SEC player and about a third round draft choice.
Posted on 9/27/21 at 12:56 am to GoldenBoy
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While tackles aren’t a great way to measure how good a player is
Yes, it is; you want defensive guys, specifically LBs, who have a knack for getting to the football.
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he’s not nearly as bad as y’all make him out to be
He’s better this year no doubt in my mind. But the problem with Damone was, and still somewhat appears to be, that he is a positionless player. Damone Clark is not a MLB in any scheme, yet he’s not a pure edge rusher, either. Of course, I think he’s better suited as a 3-4 Sam LB.
Posted on 9/27/21 at 4:31 am to FLObserver
quote:bro I'm with you, the tackling from him has gotten better, but everything else is still not improved.
Now show us how many of those were for no gain or a loss ? He's the fricking middle LB he should be high in tackles. Did you ever think that maybe he is making all those tackles because teams are targeting him?
I saw him make a lot of tackles about 10 yards down the field after the rb or te already had a chuck of yards. I'm hard on this guy because he deserves it. he has been on this team for 5 years he should be stuffing holes and playing some decent coverage . LSU has had some good MLB's : D. White, B. James,Beckwith , Queen,minter etc.. Clark aint even in the top 15. Let the downvotes begin
Posted on 9/27/21 at 4:42 am to Datbayoubengal
I am sorry but just no. Just because you lead in tackles doesnt mean anything. He is constantly processing plays entirely to slow, never fills the right gap. Yes it is not as bad as earlier this season making tackles 10 yards down the field but he is far from improved. The middle linebacker is the leader of the defense, he should be reading and reacting. Not reading... thinking about it... and then reacting. He seems unsure of himself. And this could be a coaching problem. Maybe someone needs to light a fire under his arse. But go back and watch him in the 3rd and 4th quarter saturday. Take off the purple and gold glasses and see that isnt improvement.
You want to see improvement... go rewatch Flott play. That is improvement big time. He just played, didnt think, just reacted.
You want to see improvement... go rewatch Flott play. That is improvement big time. He just played, didnt think, just reacted.
This post was edited on 9/27/21 at 4:47 am
Posted on 9/27/21 at 6:46 am to GetmorewithLes
He will be a good to great NFL player depending on coaching. If Aranda had stayed, he would be a Butkus contender. He’s on his third defensive scheme in 3 years, each quite different, and he’s in the position that’s the equivalent of the defensive QB. Thought he executed what they asked him to do against MooState to a T
Posted on 9/27/21 at 6:50 am to GetmorewithLes
Damone is a physical freak just like Danielle Hunter was at LSU but inside linebacker is not his position. Would not surprise me to see him play 5 or 10 years in the NFL though.
Posted on 9/27/21 at 6:53 am to GoldenBoy
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While tackles aren’t a great way to measure how good a player is, he’s not nearly as bad as y’all make him out to be.
He’s the epitome of this defense. He seems to be really solid but once or twice a game he will miss an assignment really badly and give up a big play.
I do think he’s played well this year though. Certainly above my expectations considering his play last season.
Posted on 9/27/21 at 8:17 am to RastaTigah
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Once those RBs meet him 4 yards after the line, they don't get any more.
Well, that's kinda the problem. He should be meeting them at the line.
Posted on 9/27/21 at 8:18 am to GetmorewithLes
I just find him out of position too many times on the big plays. He will have his eyes on the qb and never look at the rb going right by him. Tunnel vision
This post was edited on 9/27/21 at 8:19 am
Posted on 9/27/21 at 8:36 am to tiger81
quote:.. yea, he’s pretty good at running 15-20 yards downfield to catch the ball carrier…just sayin’
Clark has been playing well and is a sure tackler.
Posted on 9/27/21 at 8:42 am to GetmorewithLes
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He found that of his 14 tackles in that game 10 of them were between -1 and 4 yds of the LOS with most within 2 yds.
Don't bring facts into Rant discussion. Those bitchers will become depressed.
Posted on 9/27/21 at 8:43 am to Icansee4miles
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Thought he executed what they asked him to do against MooState to a T
This is what many on here do not comprehend.
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