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re: Damn. People really bought into that 5 second video that his attorney released lmao
Posted on 10/7/25 at 1:47 pm to lsupride87
Posted on 10/7/25 at 1:47 pm to lsupride87
quote:Is there video from that driver's perspective? Do you know for sure she didn't see Lacy's vehicle?
Except for the fact the truck driver directly tells the officer the white car swerved to avoid rear ending him….
Posted on 10/7/25 at 1:47 pm to RB10
Your red light hypothetical is horrifically dis analogous. It’s more like, if a driver runs a red light and that somehow results in a collision between two other cars at a separate intersection a little bit later because one car swerved into oncoming traffic because it was following too closely. Sure, you have cause and effect but you don’t have reasonable foreseeability.
Posted on 10/7/25 at 1:47 pm to RB10
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The car in front of you also shouldn't have to brake and swerve off the road to avoid a car driving recklessly in the wrong lane.
You actually have a duty to avoid accidents if you can.
which the truck successfully did.
The woman didn’t.
Posted on 10/7/25 at 1:50 pm to Tzanghi
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Your red light hypothetical is horrifically dis analogous. It’s more like, if a driver runs a red light and that somehow results in a collision between two other cars at a separate intersection a little bit later because one car swerved into oncoming traffic because it was following too closely. Sure, you have cause and effect but you don’t have reasonable foreseeability.
None of this even remotely makes sense. Lacy's actions directly resulted in two cars leaving their lane of traffic, one of which struck another vehicle.
My hypothetical is on point.
Posted on 10/7/25 at 1:52 pm to SammyTiger
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You actually have a duty to avoid accidents if you can.
which the truck successfully did.
The woman didn’t.
She avoided one accident only to cause another. Why did she have to avoid that first accident again?
Oh yeah, because the vehicle in front of her slowed down and veered off the road to avoid Lacy.
Posted on 10/7/25 at 1:57 pm to lsupride87
quote:Did you even watch and listen to this?
it’s ridiculous for the driver of the white vehicle to not have charges greater than that of Lacy
This post was edited on 10/7/25 at 1:58 pm
Posted on 10/7/25 at 1:58 pm to KiaSportage22
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This post was edited on 10/7/25 at 2:08 pm
Posted on 10/7/25 at 2:00 pm to RB10
It’s not on point. You’re not recognizing the fact that causation does not equal responsibility nor that causation can involve intervening negligence that is not foreseeable.
Posted on 10/7/25 at 2:03 pm to Tzanghi
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You’re not recognizing the fact that causation does not equal responsibility nor that causation can involve intervening negligence that is not foreseeable.

Posted on 10/7/25 at 2:05 pm to mylsuhat
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The oncoming charger caused a truck to slam on it's brakes which caused the Kia to swerve into oncoming traffic
Same. Thing.
Except the person driving the truck that the woman supposedly swerved to miss said he didn't slam on the brakes. She was driving fast and not paying attention, and swerved into oncoming traffic at the last minute to avoid rear-ending the truck
Posted on 10/7/25 at 2:06 pm to KiaSportage22
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Damn. People really bought into that 5 second video that his attorney released lmao
I think it's pretty ironic that you would start a thread and end the title with "lmao" pertaining to any topic in which two people ended up losing their lives. You never ever try to avoid an accident by going into oncoming traffic. Either hit the vehicle in front of you and get the ticket for following to closely or hit the shoulder, ditch etc, but never go into oncoming traffic.
This post was edited on 10/7/25 at 2:11 pm
Posted on 10/7/25 at 2:08 pm to Tzanghi
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It’s not on point. You’re not recognizing the fact that causation does not equal responsibility nor that causation can involve intervening negligence that is not foreseeable.
I'm not avoiding that. I'm saying Lacy's actions were the cause, which is supported by facts.
Just like running a redlight that results in two other vehicles colliding is the cause of the wreck.
Hence, the correlation works fine.
Posted on 10/7/25 at 2:11 pm to KiaSportage22
Lacy broke some laws but never in a million years would they come close to a conviction with homicides or manslaughter.
Most of the people involved seem like older people who aren’t great reactive drivers. I’m sure the gold truck guy was nervous seeing the car but seems a little dramatic to do what he did, then 100% the lady wasn’t paying attention/tailgating the gold truck and didn’t have time to react. You are always responsible for your own car and own driving.
If the lady had not swerved, and she had hit the gold truck in the rear….10000% she would have been at fault. But because she swerved and hit someone head on she has no blame? Stop
Most of the people involved seem like older people who aren’t great reactive drivers. I’m sure the gold truck guy was nervous seeing the car but seems a little dramatic to do what he did, then 100% the lady wasn’t paying attention/tailgating the gold truck and didn’t have time to react. You are always responsible for your own car and own driving.
If the lady had not swerved, and she had hit the gold truck in the rear….10000% she would have been at fault. But because she swerved and hit someone head on she has no blame? Stop
Posted on 10/7/25 at 2:14 pm to SammyTiger
The fact that he ran and didn’t render aid is a factor. You have a responsibility to render aid. Do something. Call someone. I think the charge of felony hit-and-run, resulting in death would have stuck. Negligent homicide is the tough one. The other two would’ve stuck.
I’m not sure what you’re arguing, but the only thing that’s really in question is the negligent homicide. It would’ve ruined his NFL career if he was convicted of hit and run causing a death.
I’m not sure what you’re arguing, but the only thing that’s really in question is the negligent homicide. It would’ve ruined his NFL career if he was convicted of hit and run causing a death.
This post was edited on 10/7/25 at 2:17 pm
Posted on 10/7/25 at 2:16 pm to denvertiger
Again, it could leave off half of the discussion that goes against the lawyers point of view....kinda like when he clipped half the video and slowed it down to help his point of view previously
Posted on 10/7/25 at 2:20 pm to AlxTgr
quote:There is video of her directly telling the officer she was swerving to avoid the gold truck “stomping on its brakes”…..
Is there video from that driver's perspective? Do you know for sure she didn't see Lacy's vehicle?
So why would the officer not correctly write “woman swerved to avoid braking truck” and instead write “woman swerved to avoind oncoming dodge charger”?
This post was edited on 10/7/25 at 2:22 pm
Posted on 10/7/25 at 2:21 pm to lsupride87
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their official statement and report the LSP say the white vehicle serves to avoid being hit by the oncoming dodge charger
Those are not the same thing, at all . One puts the entirety of the event on the dodge charger instead of properly saying what actually happens . That isn’t by accident either
Even though this is true and the LSP obviously slanted the report, whether intentional or not, the 1st egregious act doesn't excuse the other egregious act which was Lacy driving recklessly. The old adage "2 wrongs dont make a right". Lacy 100% was culpable in the chain of events. His actions started the entire wheel turning. To refute that is disingenuous no matter your opinion of the police in this case. Lacy has not been absolved of guilt. And he shouldn't be whether dead or alive.
Posted on 10/7/25 at 2:26 pm to lsupride87
quote:Watch again. She specifically mentions the green vehicle then says avoid "them".
There is video of her directly telling the officer she was swerving to avoid the gold truck “stomping on its brakes”…..
quote:Because she swerved to avoid the "green car".
So why would the officer not correctly write “woman swerved to avoid braking truck” and instead write “woman swerved to avoind oncoming dodge charger”?
Every position you're taking here is founded upon your own misunderstanding.
Posted on 10/7/25 at 2:27 pm to RB10
No one’s disagreeing on that. That point is just not worth anything. The Big Bang has caused every crime that’s ever been committed. That doesn’t make it culpable lol.
Posted on 10/7/25 at 2:28 pm to KiaSportage22
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5 second video
you attention span that short? - or are you just posting biased junk.
Lacy was probably guilty of speeding - but not the cause of the accident - and not within a half mile of the accident
Lacy may well have had too much to drink - but that was not a factor in the accident because nothing Lacy did had any effect on what the dim-wit female driver did who caused the accident.
But Lacy took his own life probably because he thought he was going to get railroaded by idiots that believed all the lies.
you included
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