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re: Current SEC Kenpom MBB rankings, LSU is 9th in SEC.
Posted on 12/26/25 at 9:18 am to basiletiger
Posted on 12/26/25 at 9:18 am to basiletiger
quote:
Give me a f'n break. McNeese has a better basketball team than LSU the last 3 years.
From my perspective, that would be objectively wrong. McNeese was better in 23-24 & 24-25; so the last 2 seasons, not three. And they will end up down again now that Wade has moved on. Here is my work, using Warren Nolan to see the net ranking of both teams
2022-20223
LSU - 151
McNeese 339
2023-2024
LSU - 94
McNeese - 56 (WW coaching)
2024-2025
LSU- 88
McNeese - 59 (WW coaching)
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Posted on 12/26/25 at 9:40 am to mdomingue
End up down again?
Have you remotely watched them this year? Their roster is better than the last two years!
They have a guard from Creighton who is elite who will be playing at NC State next year!
Have you remotely watched them this year? Their roster is better than the last two years!
They have a guard from Creighton who is elite who will be playing at NC State next year!
Posted on 12/26/25 at 9:43 am to mcspufftiger7
quote:I suppose that the two assistant coaches I spoke with after the game who both said that the team was helped by most of the calls going their way are "idiots" too.
If you want to see an example of the stupidity on here look no further than the idiot who says LSU was kept in the Prarieview game by the refs calling fouls.
The original point, since you seem to care so much, is not that the fouls were the reason that LSU won, but it was responding to a post saying that LSU pulled away in the end. That's probably going to happen when an SEC team, at home, is playing against a SWAC team's BENCH.
Intelligent people who were raised properly don't need to use insults when trying to make a point. Especially over something as trite as LSU men's basketball and the effect of fouls against Prairie View A&M five days prior. That's usually expecting too much on tRant.
Posted on 12/26/25 at 11:08 am to mmcgrath
I made a mistake here, and will admit I was wrong. I just rechecked K's record, and he made the Final Four AND won the national title in his 11th season.
I'll take the loss on this one.
I'll take the loss on this one.
This post was edited on 12/26/25 at 11:20 am
Posted on 12/26/25 at 11:21 am to tigahlovah
quote:
bullshite. Look at Coach K's first 12 years as a HC and compare that to Wade's first 12.
Wade blows his arse out of the water. It took K until his NINTH SEASON as HC to even make the motherflucking tournament. Are you retarded????
Are you? He coached his 1st 5 years at West Point. Do you think Wade could make some huge run at that school?
Like I said, in his 1st 7 years at Duke he made the round of 32 twice, a Sweet 16, and the championship game. But I guess you think Wade has been much better? Yikes.
Of course in years 13-17 he made the Final Four every year including 2 championships. I am guessing Wade won't do that.
This post was edited on 12/26/25 at 11:23 am
Posted on 12/26/25 at 11:28 am to tigahlovah
quote:
I made a mistake here, and will admit I was wrong. I just rechecked K's record, and he made the Final Four AND won the national title in his 11th season.
I'll take the loss on this one.
Posted on 12/26/25 at 11:41 am to basiletiger
quote:
Have you remotely watched them this year?
No, I have not. I am basing it on the fact that they have losses to 8-4 Santa Clara and 6-6 Incarnate Word. They have one more good game, Michigan, which they will lose. They played four(1-3) Q1 games last season; it looks like they will play only one this season. They are 3-1 in Q2 games, though. The rest of the way, they play a schedule loaded with Q3 & Q4 games.
They are the cream of the crop in the Southland, the second-best NET team in the state, and I expect them to get the autobid unless they stumble in their tournament, but I am not sure they end up with a better NET than LSU or even better than they had last season at 59.
But only time will tell. Maybe Armsrtrong can maintain what Wade started there.
Posted on 12/26/25 at 12:18 pm to Sassafrasology
McMen has got the rest of the SEC right where he wants them.
Mid-to-Middling
Mid-to-Middling
Posted on 12/26/25 at 12:50 pm to mmcgrath
You're right. I admit when I'm wrong.
I reread, and by year 11 he won a national title.
I don't care where they started, if you take the first TEN YEARS of each coaches record, Wade CLEARLY out performed him.
However, that doesn't matter, Wade has put in 12 years which is where we are at. Again, I got it wrong the first time when I checked K's record.
By the way, I NEVER claimed he'd go on to that type of career, just comparing (incorrectly it turns out) their first 12 seasons. K is clearly the best coach EVER.
I reread, and by year 11 he won a national title.
I don't care where they started, if you take the first TEN YEARS of each coaches record, Wade CLEARLY out performed him.
However, that doesn't matter, Wade has put in 12 years which is where we are at. Again, I got it wrong the first time when I checked K's record.
By the way, I NEVER claimed he'd go on to that type of career, just comparing (incorrectly it turns out) their first 12 seasons. K is clearly the best coach EVER.
Posted on 12/26/25 at 1:49 pm to GreenieTiger
By driving the ball to the basket you get create the opportunity for fouls and therefore "get" those calls. It's what you do when you have bigger players that can drive to the goal and a PG that can also take it to the goal. To act like the refs were calling non fouls is the typical stupidity you will find here. The only reason PV was in the game is they shot 77% from 3 in the first half. That's a more correct statement.
Posted on 12/26/25 at 2:50 pm to saint tiger225
So this is Mac's first year and I must have just imagined all those bad teams and bad losses I had to sit through for three years? With the portal, every year is a rebuilding year for the teams that aren't elite. Even Duke has to rebuild as their one and don's head off to the NBA.
Posted on 12/26/25 at 3:28 pm to mcspufftiger7
It’s funny you can find reasoning for the calls in the second half and you’re mostly right about it but when it comes to the opponent having the success you mentioned it’s just magic and there is no reasoning behind it. It’s just another example of the constant double standards mcmen use all of the time.
Posted on 12/26/25 at 3:32 pm to mcspufftiger7
Ok, you make a good point. The officiating wasn't the game determiner, however, any NCAA coach will be honest and admit that the smaller schools paid to take losses are walking into a very unfavorable situation and if there is any ambiguity, the call will go against them. I am close with the coach of a small D1 program in our state and he says it is just part of the game. They have no choice but to take these games to fund their programs that desperately need the money, but know that in addition to the glaring talent gap, the scales are tilted against the visiting team.
I felt that many of the calls against PV were ticky-tacky and that it killed whatever momentum they had at the end of the first half. LSU would have won regardless, but the score likely would have been closer with a neutral officiating crew.
I respect your opinion and find it curious why you have to revert to calling the rest of us who disagree stupid idiots. Quite unnecessary.
I felt that many of the calls against PV were ticky-tacky and that it killed whatever momentum they had at the end of the first half. LSU would have won regardless, but the score likely would have been closer with a neutral officiating crew.
I respect your opinion and find it curious why you have to revert to calling the rest of us who disagree stupid idiots. Quite unnecessary.
Posted on 12/26/25 at 3:34 pm to Tom Bronco
When it comes to personnel and talent the mcmen will never be honest or consistent in how it’s viewed. A top 15 class has no talent because they didn’t have success under McMahon but when referencing other teams talent rankings it’s not arguable and the ratings mean everything. They want you to believe that every top 100 recruit we’ve had under MM were overrated yet somehow all or almost all of the other top 100 recruits are spot on.
Posted on 12/26/25 at 3:38 pm to GreenieTiger
I agree some of the calls were ticky tack but what I saw was in the first half the refs let PV get away with a lot more then tightened up the calls in the second half. Some people don’t like that unevenness in games some think it’s better to eventually call the game straight. IMO it’s just an example of refs not calling games properly in a general sense. In other words call the game straight from the start and there’s no issue.
Posted on 12/26/25 at 4:35 pm to Madking
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In other words call the game straight from the start and there’s no issue.
It's such a simple thing, yet seemingly impossible for most officiating crews to do. I'd even settle for calling it the same way all game, so long as it isn't horrifically biased. Let them play hard, or calling the game really tight is OK if it is the same all game (though really tight makes the game incredibly hard to watch).
Calling it right the whole game is ideal, being consistent is acceptable, but what we have in what seems like most games is often hard to watch.
Posted on 12/26/25 at 5:16 pm to mdomingue
What’s frustrating is they’re so far from the letter of the law at this point it’s hard to even know what they’re told to call.
Posted on 12/26/25 at 5:58 pm to Madking
They're too dumb to even care and vet actual facts - and then they started a conclusion, that they need to make it something.
Half these dudes didn't move on from middle school, even with a lot of attention.
Half these dudes didn't move on from middle school, even with a lot of attention.
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