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re: Current SEC Kenpom MBB rankings, LSU is 9th in SEC.
Posted on 12/25/25 at 7:54 pm to drizztiger
Posted on 12/25/25 at 7:54 pm to drizztiger
Yeah that was at the end of the golden age....they were very talented, but ran up against a Ga Tech team that also had some future NBA stars on the team.
But from 81 (I was a sophomore in hs) through the entire 80s, it was almost always magic during the tourney....Brown might not have been great at X's and O's, but was a master motivator. I believe in 87 they had to win several games at the end of the season just to get in the dance....great defense, Daryle Joe point guard...and that damn team should have made the final 4 without Knights shenanigans.
I'm not a Wade hater...I guess those runs back in the day, and all the success we have had in other sports, I'm just not that interested I guess to see us just make the trny and lose out or get one win and lose out...and call it a success. Maybe WW will turn into a championship coach. I never thought he was a great X and O coach...but he did get talent.
But from 81 (I was a sophomore in hs) through the entire 80s, it was almost always magic during the tourney....Brown might not have been great at X's and O's, but was a master motivator. I believe in 87 they had to win several games at the end of the season just to get in the dance....great defense, Daryle Joe point guard...and that damn team should have made the final 4 without Knights shenanigans.
I'm not a Wade hater...I guess those runs back in the day, and all the success we have had in other sports, I'm just not that interested I guess to see us just make the trny and lose out or get one win and lose out...and call it a success. Maybe WW will turn into a championship coach. I never thought he was a great X and O coach...but he did get talent.
Posted on 12/25/25 at 7:58 pm to Madking
Hey dude, I'm not shitting on wade. I thought he brought in some good talent. I didn't think he was a great bench coach. Neither was Brown. But, Brown was a tremendous motivator and had a quality X and O assistant coach for most of that period.
I'm sorry I don't go on the "how great a coach WW is", like he is some future hof coach. I don't pull against him though, and all for him becoming a championship coach.
You guys think he is top tier...cool. We disagree.
edit....i do think you are an overly emotional poster that thinks he is a little smarter than what you are. Seems like you are a jacksass to many people on here. Just because people haven't been posting on Tigerdroppings in game threads doesn't mean that they don't know more about basketball, and LSU basketball, than you. In my short time here...it is kind of funny seeing people equate posting on this board to being the most knowledgeable.
I'm sorry I don't go on the "how great a coach WW is", like he is some future hof coach. I don't pull against him though, and all for him becoming a championship coach.
You guys think he is top tier...cool. We disagree.
edit....i do think you are an overly emotional poster that thinks he is a little smarter than what you are. Seems like you are a jacksass to many people on here. Just because people haven't been posting on Tigerdroppings in game threads doesn't mean that they don't know more about basketball, and LSU basketball, than you. In my short time here...it is kind of funny seeing people equate posting on this board to being the most knowledgeable.
This post was edited on 12/25/25 at 8:01 pm
Posted on 12/25/25 at 8:05 pm to LakeCityTiger128
quote:You're a streetball?
I'm not a Wade hater...I guess those runs back in the day, and all the success we have had in other sports, I'm just not that interested I guess to see us just make the trny and lose out or get one win and lose out...and call it a success. Maybe WW will turn into a championship coach. I never thought he was a great X and O coach...but he did get talent.
We haven't gotten close the the NCAAT in the last 2 season prior to Wade and the 3 of last 8 --- and the 3 of the next seasons. We have declined 2 NIT invites in that time-frame.
Read that, process and get back to me.
I personally watch 30+ LSU MBB games a season and, of course, I want to lose. It's why I live. That makes sense somehow for the delusionals.
Posted on 12/25/25 at 8:08 pm to LakeCityTiger128
That’s a straw man, what we actually think is based on reality. He had the best win% in program history, the 4 straight years qualifying for the tourney was the longest stretch since Brown was here, the SEC title was the first in a decade and the sweet 16 run was the first in 14 seasons. I don’t know why you continue to harps on this and pretend none of this happened. I see you trying to backpedal now but none of this is relevant. What’s relevant is the current situation where we’ve had a guy who’s produced the worst and second worst SEC record in 3 seasons. No coach here has done that and kept his job at LSU. Thats all anyone is concerned about presently except maybe you.
Posted on 12/25/25 at 8:08 pm to Madking
quote:I said it the other day, Wade gets compared to Wade. CoachMc gets compared to no one.
It’s worse than that, “good is bad and the worst is the best”
“We need another Dale Brown so you should shite on the guy who’s pace was better than his and worship the guy who’s produced the worst era ever”
Make it make sense
Posted on 12/25/25 at 8:09 pm to LakeCityTiger128
No, you’re wrong again and the only people I argue with are the handful of frauds we call the mcmen because all they do is push falsities and don’t give a shite whether LSU wins or not. Don’t talk about what you don’t know, that makes you the jackass in this situation.
Posted on 12/25/25 at 8:11 pm to drizztiger
When you’re dealing with mcmen you might as well throw standards out the window. It’s all double standard comparisons and fantasy land silliness.
Posted on 12/25/25 at 9:20 pm to LakeCityTiger128
You act like he's been an NCAA HC for 40 years.
Compare Wade's record (thus far) to almost any successful HC's first 12 seasons. At which stop was he not a great success?
He compares very well to most. In fact, how many coaches can you find who accomplished what Wade has (or more) in his first 12 years as a HC. I would guess less than ten percent of coaches you could research have.
Just for laughs, compare Coach K's first 12 years as a HC and let me know how much better he performed than Wade.
Compare Wade's record (thus far) to almost any successful HC's first 12 seasons. At which stop was he not a great success?
He compares very well to most. In fact, how many coaches can you find who accomplished what Wade has (or more) in his first 12 years as a HC. I would guess less than ten percent of coaches you could research have.
Just for laughs, compare Coach K's first 12 years as a HC and let me know how much better he performed than Wade.
Posted on 12/25/25 at 9:42 pm to drizztiger
In 20 year I still don't see Wade being as successfully. Shite, Wade couldn't even cheat and pay players right.
Posted on 12/25/25 at 9:55 pm to BK785
quote:These people are so stupid.
In 20 year I still don't see Wade being as successfully. Shite, Wade couldn't even cheat and pay players right.
Posted on 12/26/25 at 12:56 am to tigahlovah
quote:I have to laugh at anyone who mentions Coach K and Will Wade in the same sentence.
Just for laughs, compare Coach K's first 12 years as a HC and let me know how much better he performed than Wade.
But just to compare, Coach K had Duke in the Finals, a Sweet 16, and 2 round of 32 in that time. All after a 5 year career at Army. Pretty sure that beats Wade by a million, and there is zero chance Wade keeps pace over the next several years of K's career.
Posted on 12/26/25 at 1:15 am to mmcgrath
Who the fudge disrespected wade and coach k by making that comparison?
Polish baby boomer from West Point, vs wade? Stop, get help.
Polish baby boomer from West Point, vs wade? Stop, get help.
This post was edited on 12/26/25 at 1:22 am
Posted on 12/26/25 at 7:14 am to GreenieTiger
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threw out their PG on a technical.
Rightly so.
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You're leaving out the fact that the refs had all of their starters in foul trouble
Well, they were fouling, so
Posted on 12/26/25 at 8:07 am to LakeCityTiger128
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But from 81 (I was a sophomore in hs) through the entire 80s, it was almost always magic during the tourney....
There was actually a 4-year drought from 82-85 where there was no post season magic, only disappointment. We lost as favorites in the first round 4 straight years.
82-83 we lost at home in the NIT back to back to Tulane and UNO.
84 we lost in the first round as a favorite in the first round vs. Dayton by 8 and it really wasn't that close and the next year as a 4-seed to Navy by 25 as a big favorite to David Robinson and 4 midgets.
The 84-85 team IMHO was the deepest and most talented team LSU ever had.....Ice Reynolds, Redden, Blanton, Derrick Taylor, Nikita Wilson, Anthony Wilson, Oliver Brown, Jose Vargas, Zoran Jovanavich. the Shaq/CJ team had more top end talent but not the depth of quality talent like this one..
So after those 4 years Dale was starting to get a bit of heat for underachieving in the post season - then he made the final four in 86 and the elite 8 in 87 and got some mojo back.
He would make the NCAA tourney in the 6 years after that but never made it past the second round in any of the 6, losing in the first round 4 of those 6, and closed out the 80's with two more first round exits.
Dale did not make the post season NIT or NCAA his last 4 years at LSU.
Posted on 12/26/25 at 8:30 am to Tiger Ugly
If you want to see an example of the stupidity on here look no further than the idiot who says LSU was kept in the Prarieview game by the refs calling fouls. It was said that at halftime Mcmahon told his players to take the ball to the rim and anyone settling for 3's would be sitting the bench. That's called a halftime adjustment. it's called coaching. #15Texas Tech only beat N Iowa by 11 and let them score 90 on them. I guess they suck too, So no most of these idiots don't watch a lot of basketball other than LSU. Understand these bleeding vaginas are still butt hurt about Wade being fired and would still rather LSU lose and make them right than LSU win and make Woodward right. It is such a stupid position. And their refusal to admit that LSU wasn't spending on basketball the last 3 years comparable to the rest of the SEC is the epitome of that delusion. Mcmahon will be judged fairly by this season. he wins he stays. he loses he goes. It's really that simple. But all of this stupid talk about mcmahon sucks as a coach is just that. The dude won 31 games and his first round NCAA tournament game the year before LSU hired him and it was the year after Morant so no that's not the only reason he won. he has not had the level of talent needed to compete in the SEC especially the last 3 years. He was given approx 8 million this year and the expectations based on that is he makes the tournament.
Posted on 12/26/25 at 8:37 am to Sassafrasology
realistically based off of what we've seen we should be about 14.
Posted on 12/26/25 at 8:39 am to mhc4tigers
Give me a f'n break. McNeese has a better basketball team than LSU the last 3 years. Let that sink in!!!
Posted on 12/26/25 at 8:48 am to mcspufftiger7
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And their refusal to admit that LSU wasn't spending on basketball the last 3 years comparable to the rest of the SEC is the epitome of that delusion.
This is not a personal response to you - as several folks have pointed this out - and while I don't disagree on the spending - I'll say what I have about that each time I see ths:
- while yes it's true, CMM is complicit in this reality. When you are at a school like LSU that undervalues the sport relative to others at the school and in the SEC, you HAVE TO as coach be the chief fund raiser and program promoter. That's just a fact. Andthat's just not a strength of CMM's. Both can be true and are true IMHO.
I'd really love to see him come out the winner in this, nothing would make me happier.
Posted on 12/26/25 at 9:12 am to mcspufftiger7
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If you want to see an example of the stupidity on here look no further than the idiot who says LSU was kept in the Prarieview game by the refs calling fouls. It was said that at halftime Mcmahon told his players to take the ball to the rim and anyone settling for 3's would be sitting the bench. That's called a halftime adjustment. it's called coaching. #15Texas Tech only beat N Iowa by 11 and let them score 90 on them. I guess they suck too, So no most of these idiots don't watch a lot of basketball other than LSU. Understand these bleeding vaginas are still butt hurt about Wade being fired and would still rather LSU lose and make them right than LSU win and make Woodward right. It is such a stupid position. And their refusal to admit that LSU wasn't spending on basketball the last 3 years comparable to the rest of the SEC is the epitome of that delusion. Mcmahon will be judged fairly by this season. he wins he stays. he loses he goes. It's really that simple. But all of this stupid talk about mcmahon sucks as a coach is just that. The dude won 31 games and his first round NCAA tournament game the year before LSU hired him and it was the year after Morant so no that's not the only reason he won. he has not had the level of talent needed to compete in the SEC especially the last 3 years. He was given approx 8 million this year and the expectations based on that is he makes the tournament.
Imagine typing all of this to defend a 14-40 SEC record.
Talk about Stockholm Syndrome.
Posted on 12/26/25 at 9:15 am to Tiger Ugly
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you HAVE TO as coach be the chief fund raiser and program promoter. That's just a fact. And that's just not a strength of CMM's.
The McMen have no response for this either. They just think that poor ole Matt got the wrong end of the stick. Accountability for everything within your program doesn’t matter apparently.
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